Israel president Shimon Peres accuses Britain of pro-Arab bias

[Nunavut Patrick]

They already run the USA, so no point.

Just Hollywood.

And the odd bank or two.

[Pureblood]

Why isn't Ban Ki-Moon sorting this shit out? Kofi Annan was way better. Sack Ki-Moon.

[Jairzinho]

Why isn't Ban Ki-Moon sorting this shit out? Kofi Annan was way better. Sack Ki-Moon.

 

No. Ban Ki-Moon.

[Dougie Do'ins]

Turns out that kidnapped Israeli solider wasn't kidnapped after all. Turns out he was killed in battle on Friday. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

No, not in any way what so ever are Israel targeting innocent civilians. Only an estimated 460.000 people displaced.

 

[Rico1304]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5602701

[Spy Bee]

Ed Milliband has spoken out against what is going on in Gaza. Finally.

[Spy Bee]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5602701

I should neg you for not posting the whole story. 

[Rico1304]

I should neg you for not posting the whole story.

 

I went off too early!!! It answers some of the points I didn't know about, but is it balanced?

[Lee909]

Deadly strike 'on UN school in Gaza'

Updated 8 minutes ago

 

At least seven people have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a UN-run school housing Palestinians displaced by the Gaza conflict, medics say.

 

Thousands of Palestinians were believed to be sheltering in the facility in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

 

The Israeli military has not commented but has been carrying out renewed strikes in Gaza.

 

Gaza health officials say 30 people have died on Sunday, while militants continue to fire rockets into Israel.

 

The latest exchanges came after Israel's military said that an officer it feared had been captured had now been confirmed dead. Hadar Goldin went missing on Friday near Rafah.

 

Confirmation of 2nd Lt Goldin's death means 66 Israelis have now died in the fighting, all but two of them soldiers. A Thai worker in Israel also died.

 

The latest official figures from Gaza's health ministry say that 1,740 Palestinians have been killed and 9,080 injured since the conflict began more than three weeks ago.

 

The Israeli shelling of the Jabaliya UN shelter last week, which killed 16 people, drew widespread international condemnation.

 

 

 

 

I guess they didn't realise the UN has a school there either

[Spy Bee]

This is excellent, with an unexpected twist about half way through:

 

[Anubis]

I went off too early!!! It answers some of the points I didn't know about, but is it balanced?

 

Well, given be thinks that the death toll in Israel is lower because they protect their citizens better (Israel having access to a multitude of tanks, aircraft, state of the art guided missiles, shelters, and funding from around the world) and the Palestinian's don't (the Palastinians having access to some rockets made out of piping, some AK47s, some rocks, and being subject to sanctions that prevent them from obtaining basic ammenities), then I'd say his opinion is somewhat skewed.

[Jairzinho]

I'm not sure what a balanced article would look like, this isn't a balanced conflict.

[Spy Bee]

1. Where the pictures come from doesn't matter, there are children being killed.

2. Oil is also important, but I don't think most people care about the 'reasons' for a war.

3. Israel is indiscriminately killing kids, I don't care about their motives.

4. No evidence of people being used as human shields.

5. Highly subjective point.

6. Ridiculous & already been addressed above.

7. Everybody is not pro-Israel, just those who consume Fox News and the ignorant. 

 

Even people who lean towards Israel in their political views want this to end now. The article tried to be clever by suggesting he has balanced views and even claims he's been accused of being pro-Palestine. I very much doubt that he ever has. It's very very far from a balanced article.

[Moo]

That article ended in what would appear a pretty balanced way but the points before that don't seem particularly objective.

One point I see keeps cropping up is how Isreal mustn't want Palastinian casualties because if it did there'd be loads more, while Hamas benefits from civilian casualties (which I don't doubt). My question to that point then is why do Isreal keep giving Hamas what they want?

[VladimirIlyich]

That American host is a moron. I truthfully believed those kind of people were parodies and not real.

The only serious person on that panel,Geraldo Rivera,actually put the interviewer straight and where did they get that woman! Know your place love.

[Spy Bee]

That American host is a moron. I truthfully believed those kind of people were parodies and not real.

The only serious person on that panel,Geraldo Rivera,actually put the interviewer straight and where did they get that woman! Know your place love.

She's funny, she gets angry and chucks a few insults out, but actually says nothing. The host is a bad bell end!

[Gnasher]

Just Hollywood.

And the odd bank or two.

And large chunks of the media.

[razor]

Outfoxed.  Should be compulsory viewing in every American household.

[Spy Bee]

It's being reported 1700 Palestinians now killed.

[Stu Monty]

Dog. Any reply to my last post about how Israel thought supporting Hamas to undermine the PLO feeds into you thinking they don't desire conflict?

[stringvest]

Well argued , I can only echo your sentiment , Bullshit

 

it's a balancing act.  How many civilians can Israel indiscriminately kill without losing the support of the US?  That's the game they're playing.  

 

If we'd seen the same number of Israeli casualties we'd be witnessing a war right now.  What we are witnessing is just calculated slaughter.  

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

So, it looks like Netanyahu etc have now lied about the 3 murdered teenagers and now the alleged kidnapped soldier all to justify starting the build up to an assault in Gaza, and then to subsequently continue it, by flattening Raffah.

 

Can we believe a single word that comes out of their mouth? Not that we did before, anyway.

[Spy Bee]

RT are showing much more graphic reporting from the area. It's fucking carnage. The human race is capable of some vile shit.

[Stu Monty]

it's a balancing act. How many civilians can Israel indiscriminately kill without losing the support of the US? That's the game they're playing.

 

If we'd seen the same number of Israeli casualties we'd be witnessing a war right now. What we are witnessing is just calculated slaughter.

That's the point that those saying they could kill more than thus are deliberately missing (or are genuinely not astute enough to work out).

 

Israel are deliberately killing civilians up to the top limit they think the international community will accept. They're assessing just what level of collective punishment they can get away with.