Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Stu Monty]

A plethora of different people. Pistonbroke, JoeyJones and Silverlining are prominent.

 

With all due respect SD, your comment is akin to saying "what's Darwin got to do with a conversation about evolution?"

 

It's ridiculous. The idea that it needs explaining why probably the most influential group of people with respect to where global free markets are now, who were think as thieves with Thatcher, who is pretty fucking important in the landscape of UK thinking on privatisation, are relevant is daft.

 

I honestly don't get how a bloke who preaches evidence guiding his worldview on other subjects and is clearly interested in politics/economics just seemingly doesn't wish to delve into the many writers showing how broken things are. Not fringe voices or lunatics. There's Nobel Prize winning economists saying it. There's amazing investigative journalists shining lights on how fucked up it's getting.

 

Seriously, read some Greg Palast. He was at Chicago and walked away from joining them, he's worked in the oil industry, he's exposed more of how rotten the interface between capital and democracy is than anyone.

 

I simply can't see how a liberal thinks massive conglomerates swallowing up more and more resources, power and influence leads to a freer people.

[dennis tooth]

Den tilla wit tha scrilla

 

This comes free

Cos its anarchy

government shud hav me killed

save themself a few hundred mill

cos no one gonna pay that bill

en mass no tax jacks got the back of jill

An we join hands cut out the middleman cos the middleman spill

nothin bein employed in this boy but pure will

full of himself overspilled

soak it up with my quill

Write pure evil

If u beleive in god at the steeple

cos I beleive in the people

god people tryna releive that foetal

stepped on

with ten to twos

sprunt out

disappear isnt here

eyeballs explode

medusa froze

with your soul exposed

broken window theory

make you quite cheery

I can hear your sklinky slip ons

coming down the stairs

coming for me kinetic apples an pears

but nothin is there

nothing is there

slunk off slinky

shudda come wit me

tryna catch dna from a shadow

splintered to the marrow

But the devil let me borrow

Summer cometh DRY they swallow

look kinda robotic shot the drone

listenin to my phone

WAT CLOCK TELL U WAT time has shown

danger in the timezone

guess i shudda known

I do anything for power to be shown

I'll rape the raper on his way home

stockcheck his sperm finger his uretha

sit there take a chair mans a great teacher

an u gotta learn how

make ur eyes squint like mao

run ur dna data thru the pain generator

any taste of pain i can cater

greater than the emigrator

shake any faker

phoney vacator

run for the exits like cheese thru the grater

make ye quake like a quaker

more than a mate more like ye alma mater

breadfruit for yor mind ur starved, a truth waiter

yor not fit to lace the shoes of my approved shoelacer

even try to step on mine crash and burn like shoemaker

levy, charges on your chevy chase the woundmaker

go thru more fools than a speeddater

its no joke so dont ask me if I make her

held more magic beans than a raper from jamaica

Come find me wit my paper

brain protein activator

I get up in your receptor

got ur pot of gold mr rainbow taster

lechin leprecauns sat atop skyscrapers

but u can go back in time

u can go forward backward or just stay out ye mind

when u buyin mine

e equals mc but your not tied to einstein

now u havin a good time

You can look it up an do ur research u can be sure av done mine

an I never did time

No judge gonna jail me no matter the crime

they know I overthrow them from the inside

imagine the criminals if they werent blind

even the screws come unscrewed

they dont wanna screw loose

high risk that,

so am on day release in a high rise flat

kidknapped the government til they sign our rights back

bury it with them, bring the nightcap

cement demented in a spiteful fightback

Edited July 29, 2013 by dennis tooth

[VladimirIlyich]

 

I just like to know what you're talking about' date=' specifically. I can't be expected to go trawling round the internet to look for stuff. Some guidance and direction, at least, would be appreciated.

 

I don't care about people knowing that I tagged the Ed Miliband thread with "national socialism". He was talking about nationalism, and he's a socialist, so it was funny. He's obviously not a Nazi, the Nazis tried to murder his parents. You can't have expected me not to know that.

 

Now that you mention it, in this new era of openness, I'd be quite interested in knowing who is responsible for the following:

 

hope sd loses his job

sd=maggie rimmer

strontium 'tory' dog

strontium dog snatcher

strontium milk snatcher

strontium poodle

strontium thatcher

strontium thatcherite[/quote']

 

While you are entitled to criticise Miliband, I think hes useless too but for different reasons, references to Nazis are a bit crass judging by his family's history. Judaism and concentration camps figure quite prominently.

[dennis tooth]

Fuck it its only Milliband.

 

SD is correct to call him a nazi, hes shit all over any 'family legacy' and wont be the first jew turned nazi nor the last.

[King Emlyn]

I see British Gas are warning of yet more price increases citing "upward pressure on costs" or some such yarbles. All against a backdrop of increased profits natch. If you see Sid tell him to hang his head in shame.

[JER]

The "most progressive" government in history latest brainwave to kick start the economy

 

We need to make it easier for firms to sack workers, claims Conservative chairman Grant Shapps - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

[Strontium]

Since when did Grant Shapps speak for the government?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Since when did Grant Shapps speak for the government?

 

Well, he's a cabinet minister with a vote in cabinet decisions. I'd say he's as much a spokesperson for government as Ken Clarke is or Peter Mandelson was.

[lifetime fan]

BBC News - Unison cleared to challenge employment tribunal fees

[dennis tooth]

Shapps said he was proud of the fact that half a million cancer victims are now working for free on workfare.

 

I think you will find you have a lot in common with the man SD, give him a chance.

[Strontium]

Well, he's a cabinet minister with a vote in cabinet decisions. I'd say he's as much a spokesperson for government as Ken Clarke is or Peter Mandelson was.

 

 

But it's not up to him what the government line is, and in the article it's made perfectly clear that this is what the Tories would do if they had a majority. In other words, this is something that is going in their next manifesto, and it has nothing to do with anything being done by this coalition government.

[JER]

But it's not up to him what the government line is, and in the article it's made perfectly clear that this is what the Tories would do if they had a majority. In other words, this is something that is going in their next manifesto, and it has nothing to do with anything being done by this coalition government.

 

What about the "Go Home" vans travelling aimlessly across London? The Tories appear to be making unilateral decisions in this government.

 

As an aside, whatever happened to Michael Green?

 

[Strontium]

What about the "Go Home" vans travelling aimlessly across London? The Tories appear to be making unilateral decisions in this government.

 

 

You do understand that not everything the government does is micro-managed by Cameron, Osborne, Clegg and Alexander, right? The vans are a Home Office pilot scheme, and the Home Office is run by Tories. Clegg and Cable have publicly criticised them, which I'm sure the Tories don't care about, as Tory immigration policy is vastly more popular than ours.

[Stu Monty]

But it's not up to him what the government line is, and in the article it's made perfectly clear that this is what the Tories would do if they had a majority. In other words, this is something that is going in their next manifesto, and it has nothing to do with anything being done by this coalition government.

 

So, to clarify, the things that the Tories would like to do has nothing to do with things being done by this coalition government, which is a massively Tory driven vehicle which you keep claiming the Lib Dems can "do nothing about" (apart from actually use their votes).

 

It has a lot to do with it. You see the general public aren't aware of when the next time the Lib Dems are going to cower into abstention due to political convenience, so, you know, are naturally a bit jumpy with this shit.

 

Who knows, the Tories might offer the strategic genius' in yellow a biscuit or some magic beans for their abstentions and then it'd be policy.

 

Mixed messages SD, major mixed messages.

[Strontium]

It has nothing to do with what the coalition is doing, because this is something the Lib Dems have blocked. QED.

 

I don't know what us being able to "do nothing about" relates to. Is this about tuition fees again?

[Gnasher]

It has nothing to do with what the coalition is doing, because this is something the Lib Dems have blocked. QED.

 

I don't know what us being able to "do nothing about" relates to. Is this about tuition fees again?

 

The lid dems did nothing to stop tory welfare cuts, stopping new claimants from being eligible for social security payments for seven days will hit people on short term contracts hardest, the lib dems also rubber stamped a 5% tax cut for britains wealthiest residents.

 

The liberals are an utterly shameless ragbag of career politicians, charlatans who should never be trusted with any form of public office again.

[Stu Monty]

It has nothing to do with what the coalition is doing, because this is something the Lib Dems have blocked. QED.

 

I don't know what us being able to "do nothing about" relates to. Is this about tuition fees again?

 

It relates to the excuse you've given for Lib Dem actions (or more accurately inactions) a few times.

 

What the stronger partner in the coalition would like to do has everything to do with the coalition government.

 

As you yourself say, the Lib Dems have condemned these idiotic mobile signs. They want no part of them. It's still happening though, isn't it? And it's still this government that it is happening under, micro-management or not.

[Gnasher]

Six lib dem mps voted against the benefit cuts. The rest are charlatan tory fags.

[Strontium]

The lid dems did nothing to stop tory welfare cuts, stopping new claimants from being eligible for social security payments for seven days will hit people on short term contracts hardest, the lib dems also rubber stamped a 5% tax cut for britains wealthiest residents.

 

The liberals are an utterly shameless ragbag of career politicians, charlatans who should never be trusted with any form of public office again.

 

 

And blocked a 10% cut. And 45% tax is still higher than it was for 13 years under Labour. Still, feel free to keep ignoring the facts if it keeps you from ever having to exercise that thing between your ears.

 

It relates to the excuse you've given for Lib Dem actions (or more accurately inactions) a few times.

 

What the stronger partner in the coalition would like to do has everything to do with the coalition government.

 

As you yourself say, the Lib Dems have condemned these idiotic mobile signs. They want no part of them. It's still happening though, isn't it? And it's still this government that it is happening under, micro-management or not.

 

 

Okay, I see where you're coming from now.

 

Obviously we have a limited amount of political capital to spend which means you have to pick and choose your battles.

[VladimirIlyich]

 

And blocked a 10% cut. And 45% tax is still higher than it was for 13 years under Labour. Still' date=' feel free to keep ignoring the facts if it keeps you from ever having to exercise that thing between your ears.

 

Okay, I see where you're coming from now.

 

Obviously we have a limited amount of political capital to spend which means you have to pick and choose your battles.[/quote']

 

Wasnt it Labour that created the 45% threshold? If so you cant take credit for somebody elses doing and then complain they left the country in a mess after 3 years of being Tory lapdogs.

[Gnasher]

And blocked a 10% cut. And 45% tax is still higher than it was for 13 years under Labour. Still, feel free to keep ignoring the facts if it keeps you from ever having to exercise that thing between your ears.

 

 

 

 

Okay, I see where you're coming from now.

 

Obviously we have a limited amount of political capital to spend which means you have to pick and choose your battles.

 

But they STILL rubber stamped a 5% tax rate for the most affluent people in britain whilst not voting against benefit cuts which affect the poorest, disadvantaged and needy.

 

That's the FACTS i highlighted.

[Stu Monty]

Obviously we have a limited amount of political capital to spend which means you have to pick and choose your battles.

 

Well they have as much political capital as their political abilities and their strategic thinking will allow them to have; it's not a set figure. That's actually been the saddest thing about this coalition for me, how utterly uninspiring the Lib Dem political moves have been.

 

They are staring into oblivion and still don't have the brains or balls to hold a gun to the Tories heads effectively, and this is not a stellar Tory cabinet by any means.

 

You can't be satisfied with them, surely?

[dennis tooth]

Clegg promised the bankers would pay for the mess they caused, not the poor, another promise another office ay?

[JER]

BBC News - Tories hire Obama campaign chief Jim Messina

 

Good luck trying to do an 'Obama' on a white, portly Etonian.

[Stu Monty]

It's easy:

 

Hope, Change, Hope, Change.

 

*Drone-bombs a village and tortures a whistleblower*