negativity towards Steven Gerrard?

[shaunstrudwick]

Rafa is playing him when he is unfit

 

of course Gerrard will say he can play cos he loves the club but it is as clear as day that Gerrard doesn't feel right

 

why we rushed him back today fuck knows

 

he needs to be rested and sent for his groin op before he does himself some proper damage

 

can't believe that some people can't see this

[Wor Horse]

He's playing badly because he's knows there's nothing he can do.

 

We're playing like a club who's manager needs to be sacked. Like you've seen for years with countless other teams, no luck, injuries, inept selections, strange signings, weird treatment of players.

 

It's now becoming more and more apparent by the game that Benitez CANNOT get us out of this. Gerrard knows it. I would if I was playing for him and so would alot of people.

 

I bet Carragher's greatly fucked off deep down but he's trying to perform each week because he's much more passionate than Gerrard. Gerrard's a strange character in the sense that he can lead on the pitch with his feet but not on it with his mouth or off it all together. They're all showing the effects of a bad season in different ways:

 

Gerrard - not playing well at all.

Carragher - Looking like he's ready to bite someone's head off at any moment.

Reina - Going mental when we score an important goal.

Kuyt - clapping every 5 minutes to his team mates like a weirdo.

 

It's a sad state of affairs because of Istanbul but Rafa needs to go, now. There's nothing he can do to stop the rot, that's just the way football is sometimes.

[Magic Sponge]

Fucking hell.

 

Is there any need to start a new thread?

 

You could of had the same debate on Ngog we trusts thread.

 

Look at me, look at me.

[ngogswilly]

He's playing badly because he's knows there's nothing he can do.

 

 

Yeah he looks seriously down when he plays.

 

I feel sorry for him, hes been the driving force behind our success over the past 4/5 years.

 

It could only go on for so long. The mans only human.

[shaunstrudwick]

Fucking hell.

 

Is there any need to start a new thread?

 

You could of had the same debate on Ngog we trusts thread.

 

Look at me, look at me.

 

i put it in there as well - thought it needed to be said again

[RoboRiise]

Rafa is being a tit for selecting him, Gerrard is being a tit as well. He's 30 this summer, the kind of age where a niggling injury can lead to the sort of long term damage that takes a season off the end of his career.

 

The season is a write off anyway, there's no reason for one of our best players to risk following it.

[shaunstrudwick]

He's playing badly because he's knows there's nothing he can do.

 

We're playing like a club who's manager needs to be sacked. Like you've seen for years with countless other teams, no luck, injuries, inept selections, strange signings, weird treatment of players.

 

It's now becoming more and more apparent by the game that Benitez CANNOT get us out of this. Gerrard knows it. I would if I was playing for him and so would alot of people.

 

I bet Carragher's greatly fucked off deep down but he's trying to perform each week because he's much more passionate than Gerrard. Gerrard's a strange character in the sense that he can lead on the pitch with his feet but not on it with his mouth or off it all together. They're all showing the effects of a bad season in different ways:

 

Gerrard - not playing well at all.

Carragher - Looking like he's ready to bite someone's head off at any moment.

Reina - Going mental when we score an important goal.

Kuyt - clapping every 5 minutes to his team mates like a weirdo.

 

It's a sad state of affairs because of Istanbul but Rafa needs to go, now. There's nothing he can do to stop the rot, that's just the way football is sometimes.

 

i agree with all of this - Rafa needs to go

[shaunstrudwick]

Rafa is being a tit for selecting him, Gerrard is being a tit as well. He's 30 this summer, the kind of age where a niggling injury can lead to the kind of long term damage that takes a season off the end of his career.

 

The season is a write off anyway, there's no reason for one of our best players to risk following it.

 

he loves the club though - must be hard for him to see us in such a bad way - if it was you you'd want to play wouldn't you - even if deep down you knew that it might not be the right decision - you just wouldn't want to let anyone down

[Iantn]

of course Gerrard will say he can play cos he loves the club

 

An would never have a gob on played wide midfield eh!

[shaunstrudwick]

An would never have a gob on played wide midfield eh!

 

yes he can have a bit of an ego on him but so do all the really good players

[RobbieOR]

Rafa is being a tit for selecting him, Gerrard is being a tit as well. He's 30 this summer, the kind of age where a niggling injury can lead to the sort of long term damage that takes a season off the end of his career.

 

The season is a write off anyway, there's no reason for one of our best players to risk following it.

 

Write off in terms of trophys, yes. In terms of Fourth place, not at all.

[Iantn]

yes he can have a bit of an ego on him but so do all the really good players

 

An ego that would have made him not play if he wasn't fit, no?

[piscinin]

He's getting stick because he's been playing worse than Kuyt.

[The Midnight Rambler]

It's down to his shit attitude, nothing else.

[shaunstrudwick]

An ego that would have made him not play if he wasn't fit, no?

 

quite possibly - but i think he's doing it for the right reasons - not for the 'glory' or whatever

 

he loves the club though - must be hard for him to see us in such a bad way - if it was you you'd want to play wouldn't you - even if deep down you knew that it might not be the right decision - you just wouldn't want to let anyone down

[Anny Road]

Gerrard has earned a pass. Rafa's had too many already.

[The Dude Abides]

Bollocks. If Rafa can be criticised, thne sure as shit Gerrard can. He's been a fucking embrassment to himself and the club this season. Okay, if he's not 100%(easy fucking excuse), the least he can fucking do is pass a ball to a red shirt, or look at least some bit interested, or even show some encouragement towards his players.

 

Captain? Leader? My hairy arse.

[Sandman]

Gerrard has earned a pass. Rafa's had too many already.

 

He doesn't try anywhere as hard as he used to. That is not in question. And that should not be dismissed so easily.

[RoboRiise]

he loves the club though - must be hard for him to see us in such a bad way - if it was you you'd want to play wouldn't you - even if deep down you knew that it might not be the right decision - you just wouldn't want to let anyone down

 

 

Yeah, I would want to but with this season in the state it is, I think I'd take the long term view and focus on making sure I was right for next season, especially since there won't be much of a break this summer.

 

I'm not Stevie though. I think this is one occasion I'd like to see him make a decision with his head instead of his heart.

[RoboRiise]

Write off in terms of trophys, yes. In terms of Fourth place, not at all.

 

 

You're right Robbie, it's just hard to get worked up about fourth, especially after that. Playing like he is though, I don't think Stevie is going to be what makes the difference one way or the other.

[Lucky Pierre]

i put it in there as well - thought it needed to be said again

Tel it to the mirror then.

[Red Nick]

Even when he is shit he is light years ahead of most of the team

 

At least he can trap and pass a football

[old skool tom]

id rather have a shite steven gerrard than a superb (insert any liverpool players name apart from nando) any fucking day.if theres one player who deserves one bad season in the history of world football..........................surely its liverpools number 8?

[Hooch]

He's playing badly because he's knows there's nothing he can do.

 

We're playing like a club who's manager needs to be sacked. Like you've seen for years with countless other teams, no luck, injuries, inept selections, strange signings, weird treatment of players.

 

It's now becoming more and more apparent by the game that Benitez CANNOT get us out of this. Gerrard knows it. I would if I was playing for him and so would alot of people.

 

I bet Carragher's greatly fucked off deep down but he's trying to perform each week because he's much more passionate than Gerrard. Gerrard's a strange character in the sense that he can lead on the pitch with his feet but not on it with his mouth or off it all together. They're all showing the effects of a bad season in different ways:

 

Gerrard - not playing well at all.

Carragher - Looking like he's ready to bite someone's head off at any moment.

Reina - Going mental when we score an important goal.

Kuyt - clapping every 5 minutes to his team mates like a weirdo.

It's a sad state of affairs because of Istanbul but Rafa needs to go, now. There's nothing he can do to stop the rot, that's just the way football is sometimes.

 

Bit in bold made me laugh because it is so very true, and indeed weird.

 

I'm sick of the "Gerrards not totally fit" argument now though. I think he's as fit as he can be and he's simply been shit this season.

[Sandman]

id rather have a shite steven gerrard than a superb (insert any liverpool players name apart from nando) any fucking day.if theres one player who deserves one bad season in the history of world football..........................surely its liverpools number 8?

 

Get a grip.