Hillsborough Sculpture For New Stadium

[Antynwa]

An (admittedly very poor) attempt

 

 

I think in real life those ones would be bigger than 4ft.

 

Thats the sort of thing I mean.

[Steve Holt]

I tried to make them look uplit but I'm shit.

[ElNino_9_TheKid]

He said previously that they would be 2-4ft. I think it would be good if they were each individually uplit.

 

Agree with that, not sure how though, what would they be made of? It doesn't really matter anyway, as long as they are always visble, i really, really hope this idea happens, it would be brilliant.

[Lucky Pierre]

Sabbathfan, thats a pretty good impression. Anyone know how big the LFC badges are at the Kop and Annie Rd end? Maybe a bit smaller than them they need to be?

[robbohuyton]

On the statue, when I first saw it I thought it was horrific but tried to understand the motives behind it. I was thinking along the lines of Jimmy McGovern's documentary - harrowing, powerful, but accurate and educational at the same time.

 

But if this statue is to reside in Liverpool I just don't see the point - i don't think it's people in Liverpool who need to be shocked into an education on the subject. And if just one Hillsborough family is shocked or offended by it, it is one family too many.

 

I don't understand how the families (all of them) were not consulted in the first place before this went public - massive oversight.

 

Had a fella having a pop at me earlier saying art by committee is never good, and that if the statue doesn't now go ahead it's censorship.

 

Sorry, but people's feelings win over 'art' every time for me.

 

The 96 Liverbirds is an absolutely spot on idea as well by the way.

[Steve Holt]

On the statue, when I first saw it I thought it was horrific but tried to understand the motives behind it. I was thinking along the lines of Jimmy McGovern's documentary - harrowing, powerful, but accurate and educational at the same time.

 

But if this statue is to reside in Liverpool I just don't see the point - i don't think it's people in Liverpool who need to be shocked into an education on the subject. And if just one Hillsborough family is shocked or offended by it, it is one family too many.

 

I don't understand how the families (all of them) were not consulted in the first place before this went public - massive oversight.

 

Had a fella having a pop at me earlier saying art by committee is never good, and that if the statue doesn't now go ahead it's censorship.

 

Sorry, but people's feelings win over 'art' every time for me.

 

The 96 Liverbirds is an absolutely spot on idea as well by the way.

 

I agree that art by committee is a horrendous thing and the genius of an artist shouldn't be stifled. But I also agree that this shouldn't be art. It should be a memorial. It can be both, but if it is both it should certainly be a memorial first and art second.

[BexBissel]

Stunning piece of art. Sums it all up for me.

[Paul]

An (admittedly very poor) attempt

 

 

I think in real life those ones would be bigger than 4ft.

 

Great idea from Ant (and well rendered by SF). It could look superb and is the sort of thing that would go an awful long way to transferring some of the history, tradition and culture of Anfield to a new gaff.

[silverlining]

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was designed by a devout Christian, probably a Catholic. It's the only explanation I can come up with. These people are obsessed with glorifying human suffering (see: those little cross-shaped medallions of SOMEONE BEING SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY MURDERED that they all wear around their necks). It's quite perverse.

 

 

If you'd said something that offensive that about Islam you'd be in trouble

[Steve Holt]

If you'd said something that offensive that about Islam you'd be in trouble

 

He has a point though. Christianity does fetishise suffering in a way that is utterly discomfiting.

[RedinSweden]

On the statue, when I first saw it I thought it was horrific but tried to understand the motives behind it. I was thinking along the lines of Jimmy McGovern's documentary - harrowing, powerful, but accurate and educational at the same time.

 

But if this statue is to reside in Liverpool I just don't see the point - i don't think it's people in Liverpool who need to be shocked into an education on the subject. And if just one Hillsborough family is shocked or offended by it, it is one family too many.

 

I don't understand how the families (all of them) were not consulted in the first place before this went public - massive oversight.

 

Had a fella having a pop at me earlier saying art by committee is never good, and that if the statue doesn't now go ahead it's censorship.

 

Sorry, but people's feelings win over 'art' every time for me.

 

The 96 Liverbirds is an absolutely spot on idea as well by the way.

 

This is spot on to me.

 

I thought it was awful, the first time i saw it. If this was an independent sculpture by an artist at an unrelated gallery, that is one thing, but this is the official sculpture and it just doesn't sit right at all.

[Strontium]

If you'd said something that offensive that about Islam you'd be in trouble

 

 

Mah. I don't think Muslims glorify in suffering; they just worship a dude who fucked a 9 year old girl :whistle:

 

I don't want to get too off-topic, but this is by the same sculptor who designed this proposed H'boro statue:

 

 

Definitely along the same theme of "honour and glory in suffering", I think... I don't reckon my original hypothesis is too far off.

[ElNino_9_TheKid]

Bump.

 

What happened to Ant's idea of the 96 liverbirds around the top of the 4 stands?

 

I really liked that idea, just wondering if it was ever taken further. Did you contact anyone with the idea Ant?

[William_Ulsterman]

the sculpture awful, and actually quite disturbing! what are the dimensions?

 

much prefer the liverbirds

[GUS]

That's horrific.