Liverpool v Lyon (20/10/09)

[danielo]

Really pleased with young Kelly tonight - that was the main positive.

 

I also thought Ngog held the ball up quite well.

 

Bemused by the Benayoun substitution, like most people. That has nothing to do with G&H phoning RB and telling him to haul off Yossi for Voronin.

 

However, the real cancer is the ownership of the club. I think until they go, RB should be supported (unless he leaves first!).

[.net]

Rafa has to take a good part of the blame. He bought a an injured midfielder that will not be ready until the end of October because he thinks the squad in good enough.

 

Yeah and how much did he cost? Did you ever stop to think why we bought him? he's quality albeit he was injured but more importantly cheap as installments because of the injury. We only paid 5 mil up front. If he hadnt had his injury problems he would not have been 20 million in tiny chunks.

 

We have no money. Its all very well dissing Rafa over transfers but when he has no budget and has to wheel and deal well then basically hes buggered.

[Red Nick]

Nick, you're right about the owners, but if they'd have given Benitez an extra 100 million to spend, we'd still have a shiite squad.

 

Yes, we're in a worse state than we should be in, but Benitez has to take his share of the blame.

 

I really dont agree with that at all

 

You know I am no Rafa fan

 

But if he had been allowed to use all of the Xabi money as promissed to him and buy Silva things would have been different.

 

Basically when they pulled the rug on him Rafa had made a decision to leave and did walkout. However like Xabi he decided to choose his time at the end of the season. The problem you have here is the owners have demotivated the manager and who motivates the motivator?

[.net]

Nick, you're right about the owners, but if they'd have given Benitez an extra 100 million to spend, we'd still have a shiite squad.

 

Yes, we're in a worse state than we should be in, but Benitez has to take his share of the blame.

 

Garbage.

[Antynwa]

What does taking off your best player on the pitch have anything to do with the fucking Yanks?

[Sandman]

I really dont agree with that at all

 

You know I am no Rafa fan

 

But if he had been allowed to use all of the Xabi money as promissed to him and buy Silva things would have been different.

 

Basically when they pulled the rug on him Rafa had made a decision to leave and did walkout. However like Xabi he decided to choose his time at the end of the season. The problem you have here is the owners have demotivated the manager and who motivates the motivator?

 

Is this true?

[Code]

The main positive to take from tonights game is that Agger is back in the team, I think he had a good game.

 

Kelly had a good game as well, but he will be back on the bench/stands whenever Johnson is fit so it really wont make any difference.

 

If he would have go his chance tonight if Degen had been included in the CL squad is another question as well, I somehow doubt it.

[Dublin Red]

lyon 9

fiorentina 6

liverpool 3

debrecen 0

 

It's going to be very difficult to get out of this group now.

 

 

yes, but look on the bright side.........if we get knocked out, we can concentrate on trying to getin the top 4 and qualify for the champi.....

 

oh hang on :whatever:

[col06]

Kenny Dalglish would be put in charge tommorrow if i had my way until the end of the season. Seriously though, think of the lift it would give everyone connected to the club if he was installed.

 

Kenny has been out of management for a long while i don't think its a good idea

[Monster Masch]

67 In,

69 Out,

In,

Out,

In,

Out,

And were still in with no fucking shout.

You do the hokey pokey

And you turn yourself around

Thats what its all about.

 

Bullshit!

 

5 years and how much ground made? IMO when a manager starts making serious ground backwards, his time is up.

 

And if anyone disagrees that we are not going backward this season they need a kick in the Paul Jewells.

[Sandman]

The main positive to take from tonights game is that Agger is back in the team, I think he had a good game.

 

Kelly had a good game as well, but he will be back on the bench/stands whenever Johnson is fit so it really wont make any difference.

 

If he would have go his chance tonight if Degen had been included in the CL squad is another question as well, I somehow doubt it.

 

The manager did put him in the squad Code. Do you really have so little respect for Benitez?

[Dan Vito Corleone]

The manager is on a precipice. He lost a large, large swathe of fans when he took Benayoun off. I understand leaving N'Gog on but I'd have taken off one of the midfielders, Lucas or The Chief. Benayoun is a threat whenever he's on the pitch, he is one of the few players we have who can beat a man.

 

The whole performance, apart from 20 minutes after we scored and either side of half time, was a let down. The crowd turned up expecting us to beat Lyon and they were badly mistaken. They also gobbed off for us to attack, which we did and Lyon promptly scored. I'd have laughed at any other fans. Careful what you wish for. We got played off the park by a very handy team and I would have been pleased with 1-1, but no, we don't have the patience for that.

 

I am very, very disappointed but at the end of the day, we only have ourselves to blame. We don't have a midfielder who can control the game, we've only got one striker who is a world class presence, and we let our only dominant centre half go this summer and his "replacement" is crocked.

 

The manager won't be sacked as we can't afford it, and I can't see him resigning any time soon, so we need to get our shit together or we'll be midtable. We need to win all our games in the Champions League now or we are out. I love Rafa, but I think he has made enough mistakes in 3 of our last 4 games to last a season and my patience is wearing thin.

 

A win on Sunday papers over the cracks, nothing more. The manager was short changed by the cuntish owners this summer, definitely, but he's short changing us and himself at the moment. On the brink.

 

PS - well done Martin Kelly. Excellent debut.

[James Dean]

You gotta support the team!

 

[Carra_is_legend]

Can we please stop blaming the owners after every fucking defeat and after every fucking shite performance by our multi million pound stars?

 

What had lack of money to do with the defeat against a team that had the entire defence injured? They only had one first team defender on the pitch today and even he got injured and substituted. Despite all these injury problems for THEM, they looked like the home team today. They walked all over us except 15 mins in OUR OWN GROUND.

 

We lost today because of extremely poor performance and the lack of confidence/motivation within the camp. Rafa and the players are to blame for this mess - NOT THE FUCKING OWNERS.

[Red Nick]

Is this true?

 

Yes

 

It was the game when Sammy Lee did the PC and he came back, he walked out during that day

[The Midnight Rambler]

Lucas needs to grow his hair back, couldn't pick him out at all tonight.

[odris]

Stick Yossi up fro...oh.

[Red Nick]

Can we please stop blaming the owners after every fucking defeat and after every fucking shite performance by our multi million pound stars?

 

What had lack of money to do with the defeat against a team that had the entire defence injured? They only had one first team defender on the pitch today and even he got injured and substituted. Despite all these injury problems for THEM, they looked like the home team today. They walked all over us except 15 mins in OUR OWN GROUND.

 

We lost today because of extremely poor performance and the lack of confidence/motivation within the camp. Rafa and the players are to blame for this mess - NOT THE FUCKING OWNERS.

 

I appologise to everyone on this forum but your a fucking idiot

[Sandman]

Yes

 

It was the game when Sammy Lee did the PC and he came back, he walked out during that day

 

Didn't know that. Fuck.

[George Costanza]

You gotta support the team!

 

 

can't trust a face painter

[Carra_is_legend]

I appologise to everyone on this forum but your a fucking idiot

 

Go and suck your own balls, wankstain.

 

That is the first time I have been rude to someone on this forum and I'm glad it was with you, cuntface. Go fuck yourself.

[rebel23]

I want to see what people say about the owners when they try and sell Torres to United or City, because that's what we're facing.

 

I think it's harsh on Benitez when he has half the senior players injured and is filling the team with teenagers.

 

There is no easy answer, the fact is we need a lot of money spent on the team and it aint going to happen if anything the opposite will. I hope Rafa doesn't walk

[volvic]

gillet was at the game tonight too

[Maldini]

What does taking off your best player on the pitch have anything to do with the fucking Yanks?

 

Reina stayed on the whole game.

[TE-23]

What concerns me is, at times like this, it doesn't hurt anymore. I' ve become numb to it. I don't like the owners, I'm indifferent towards the manager, and I don't like half of the players. We're in real trouble.