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[Captain Turdseye]

I think we’re gonna have to give Bailey to a family outside of a built up area. He’s sound in the house...

 

 

...but he’s just completely stopped listening when out walking. If he sees another dog or a cyclist he’s off and no matter how much we shout or try and entice him back he just doesn’t listen. If he finds gaps in fences when we’re out walking in fields he’s gone, so we’ve had to start keeping him on the lead but he needs a good run around really.

 

Not only that, twice in the last few weeks he’s made a break for it out of the front door and had us on mad chases all round the neighbourhood trying to get him back. He’s fast as fuck and impossible to grab hold of. Last week he got out, chased a van doing 30mph and was centimetres away from running under the back wheels. Took 25 minutes of following/looking for him until he’d tired himself out and we were able to get hold of him. 

 

Just seems to be getting more and more reckless, sprinting across roads and stuff and I’m not sure I can take much more of it. I’d rather let the kids say goodbye properly and send him off to someone who perhaps lived near closed fields he can’t get out of and has a bigger garden, than have to scoop him up off the road. 

 

We decided last week to find him a new home. Cue Mrs Turdseye and the girls crying for about four hours before she changed her mind and bought some kind of new training lead with the intention of teaching him not to run out of the house if the door’s open. Personally I think it’s just delaying the inevitable. 

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, Karl_b said:

Ace.

 

Monty's nearly 6 months old now, I can't believe there was a time when we didn't have a dog. He passed his level 1 puppy class recently and looked pretty pleased with himself.

 

 

 

Did he have to prove he was a puppy? I assume its some kind of dog training scheme you put him on?

[Karl_b]

15 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Did he have to prove he was a puppy? I assume its some kind of dog training scheme you put him on?

The latter! As he's going to be going to school a couple of days a week next year we need to be able to prove we've been training him but it's actually just been really nice to do. It gives us structure week to week on what to train him in, it's fun, he seems to enjoy it and we've met other people in the same situation. The first course wasn't really about whether he "passed" or not but he starts Level 2 next week where shit gets real. 

[Karl_b]

21 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

I think we’re gonna have to give Bailey to a family outside of a built up area. He’s sound in the house...

 

 

...but he’s just completely stopped listening when out walking. If he sees another dog or a cyclist he’s off and no matter how much we shout or try and entice him back he just doesn’t listen. If he finds gaps in fences when we’re out walking in fields he’s gone, so we’ve had to start keeping him on the lead but he needs a good run around really.

 

Not only that, twice in the last few weeks he’s made a break for it out of the front door and had us on mad chases all round the neighbourhood trying to get him back. He’s fast as fuck and impossible to grab hold of. Last week he got out, chased a van doing 30mph and was centimetres away from running under the back wheels. Took 25 minutes of following/looking for him until he’d tired himself out and we were able to get hold of him. 

 

Just seems to be getting more and more reckless, sprinting across roads and stuff and I’m not sure I can take much more of it. I’d rather let the kids say goodbye properly and send him off to someone who perhaps lived near closed fields he can’t get out of and has a bigger garden, than have to scoop him up off the road. 

 

We decided last week to find him a new home. Cue Mrs Turdseye and the girls crying for about four hours before she changed her mind and bought some kind of new training lead with the intention of teaching him not to run out of the house if the door’s open. Personally I think it’s just delaying the inevitable. 

Awful situation mate. Have you tried training classes? It's easy to dismiss them (I did) but we've learnt so much about what makes a dog obedient and how to get them to respond. Ultimately it might not work out but it might be worth a go first.

[VladimirIlyich]

2 minutes ago, Karl_b said:

The latter! As he's going to be going to school a couple of days a week next year we need to be able to prove we've been training him but it's actually just been really nice to do. It gives us structure week to week on what to train him in, it's fun, he seems to enjoy it and we've met other people in the same situation. The first course wasn't really about whether he "passed" or not but he starts Level 2 next week where shit gets real. 

Good luck to him on his level 2.

[Captain Turdseye]

1 minute ago, Karl_b said:

Awful situation mate. Have you tried training classes? It's easy to dismiss them (I did) but we've learnt so much about what makes a dog obedient and how to get them to respond. Ultimately it might not work out but it might be worth a go first.

 

Not yet, he’s three years old now so my thinking is it’s probably too late. He used to be fine, that’s what makes it worse. For the most part he’s even stopped listening to basic commands that I taught him when we first re-homed him. Like “Sit” or “Lie Down”. He’ll do it but only after me saying it four or five times. It’s exhausting and only getting worse. 

 

He went from being with a couple that left him alone indoors for nine hours a day, to living with us which is the exact opposite. We don’t leave him alone often. When we’re out we drop him over at the in-laws. Maybe he’s spoilt. I don’t know. He needs more runs to burn off the energy but we’re all out of places to take him where he won’t bail on us. 

 

Just have see how things pan out with this training lead and go from there. 

[Karl_b]

1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Not yet, he’s three years old now so my thinking is it’s probably too late. He used to be fine, that’s what makes it worse. For the most part he’s even stopped listening to basic commands that I taught him when we first re-homed him. Like “Sit” or “Lie Down”. He’ll do it but only after me saying it four or five times. It’s exhausting and only getting worse. 

 

He went from being with a couple that left him alone indoors for nine hours a day, to living with us which is the exact opposite. We don’t leave him alone often. When we’re out we drop him over at the in-laws. Maybe he’s spoilt. I don’t know. He needs more runs to burn off the energy but we’re all out of places to take him where he won’t bail on us. 

 

Just have see how things pan out with this training lead and go from there. 

He's not too old, take him to some classes and see how he gets on. One of the fundamentals we've been taught is to never give a command more than once, otherwise they never learn! 

[Scooby Dudek]

We have a Springer Spaniel who has so much energy it is crazy. 

Had the same problems, perfectly behaved in the house but a nightmare once outside. Completely ignoring us once on the lead.

 

He would also snap at other dogs, even on the lead. He pulled continually and it got to the point were we dreaded taking him out. This then became a snowball, we would take him out less, so when out he was more excited/worse. He also would then never come back once off the lead, which compounded the issues.

This went on for a few of years.

 

We tried everything, read the books did all the training in the back garden but as soon as outside it was just as bad. 

 

In desperation we took him to a farm trainer in Skem (sorry can't remember the name, having just googled). 

We arrived and Maxi pulled us from the car to the trainer, ignoring us completely. The trainer used a Slip Lead and withing minutes he was sitting at his side on command and then ignoring other dogs when on the lead and walking at his side without pulling.

 

We went a couple more times, but the best thing we did was buy a slip lead. 

We read about slip leads being cruel etc and I understand the reasoning, but as was pointed out to us (on the farm) you can either use a slip lead to initially control your dog or you can pick him up on off the road. 

 

The training was also never speak to the dog whilst walking on the lead, he is there to follow you and does not exist, this is so he understands the lead is a means to an end, not part of the journey. 

Letting him of the lead is a treat not an expectation, so after confirming he walks well on the lead, let him off but only for short periods before calling him back, then gradually increase this period. So the learning is when good, he is allowed off the lead, when bad he goes back on the lead. 

 

The initial joy of walking well on the lead faded and it was a continual struggle due to his learnt behaviour but eventually it fell into place and it is now a joy to go out with the crazy guy. He still occasionally snaps at other dogs (off the lead) but we put him back on the lead and it is now a surprise when he snaps rather than an expectation.  

We still use the slip lead and now when we walk the lead is totally slack and he may as well not have one on. 

 

 

Bit of a ramble, not sure if it helps but there is always hope.

 

 

EDIT: It was not Skem it was Rainford(just asked wife):  

http://www.professionaldogtraining.org.uk/contact.shtml

[Scooby Dudek]

22 minutes ago, Karl_b said:

He's not too old, take him to some classes and see how he gets on. One of the fundamentals we've been taught is to never give a command more than once, otherwise they never learn! 

Missed that out but also taught that was very important.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Over in Germany you aren't aloud to let your dog off the lead unless it is in a designated area, and they are few and far between although you'll always have one that is only a 10 minute drive away. They have teams of public order officers in the usual parks as it is easy money for the City council collecting 20€ a time from offenders. We have quite a sizeable garden so no problem, other people I know are forever getting caught, you'd think they'd have more sense. 

On a side note, our dog has been quite ill for the last 2 weeks with extreme shits. Cost 94€ to have her crap examined and a check up. Put her on this special food which costs an arm and a leg, 78€ for 14kg (Royal Canine Gastro Intestinal) but things got worse and I was worried she wasn't going to make it. Had her at the Vets yesterday and they took blood tests to send to a lab, get the results Wednesday, and gave her an antibiotic injection. 220€!! Although that covers the lab costs. She ate a little last night and basically just wanted a load of TLC, she was fine this morning, full of beans and had a normal shit. Ah well, the money isn't the important bit but her health, just happy as fuck that things have taken a turn for the better and hope that it stays that way. At least she's getting her blood stats checked which could save her from other illnesses should they pick something up. 

[RedSand]

2 hours ago, Pistonbroke said:

Over in Germany you aren't aloud to let your dog off the lead unless it is in a designated area.
Ah well, the money isn't the important bit but her health, just happy as fuck that things have taken a turn for the better and hope that it stays that way. At least she's getting her blood stats checked which could save her from other illnesses should they pick something up. 

Same here in San Diego. Can't have dogs off leash.  But there are dog parks around (almost always fenced in areas) to take them off leash. Also we have three off-leash dog friendly beaches. Other beaches either require a leash or don't allow dogs. 

Glad to hear she is on the way back. Would have been awful til you found out. For you and your pup.  Feel the same way that money ain't the issue, but am thankful we are in that position to spend as we need on our two pups.

[Dr Nowt]

5 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Not yet, he’s three years old now so my thinking is it’s probably too late. He used to be fine, that’s what makes it worse. For the most part he’s even stopped listening to basic commands that I taught him when we first re-homed him. Like “Sit” or “Lie Down”. He’ll do it but only after me saying it four or five times. It’s exhausting and only getting worse. 

 

He went from being with a couple that left him alone indoors for nine hours a day, to living with us which is the exact opposite. We don’t leave him alone often. When we’re out we drop him over at the in-laws. Maybe he’s spoilt. I don’t know. He needs more runs to burn off the energy but we’re all out of places to take him where he won’t bail on us. 

 

Just have see how things pan out with this training lead and go from there. 

Animal behaviourist might not be a bad shout mate. Come to your home, one-on-one, and would know how to handle the situation outside too. We did it for my older dog because she’s fear aggressive and was constantly trying to take other dog’s throats out like she was feral, ridiculous as that is for a little squirt like her.  
 

The lady we got over said we’d probably never get her to the point she could mix freely with another dog or we could have another one in the house, because she was likely around 10 so it’s too late to totally change behaviour. She said we could make it much better than it was though. Spent ages with us and was brilliant at both controlling the dog immediately and showing us how she was doing it. Proper Cesar Milan shit.
 

We spent ages reinforcing the commands she gave us and things she advised us to do, and gradually the distance she could be near to other dogs without going mental decreased and decreased, until she could finally play with a select few. We then went for it and got another one to see if she could make that leap.

Here she is now, playing all hard to get on Dirk’s back.

 

In certain circumstances, ours were one of them, it can be covered under pet insurance.

[Captain Turdseye]

Cheers for all the suggestions. That last line is the most interesting of them all. I’ll get her to have a look at the insurance. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

48 minutes ago, RedSand said:

Same here in San Diego. Can't have dogs off leash.  But there are dog parks around (almost always fenced in areas) to take them off leash. Also we have three off-leash dog friendly beaches. Other beaches either require a leash or don't allow dogs. 

Glad to hear she is on the way back. Would have been awful til you found out. For you and your pup.  Feel the same way that money ain't the issue, but am thankful we are in that position to spend as we need on our two pups.

 

She'll be 9 later this month mate, but she normally acts and looks a lot younger. Most kids in the parks thinks shes a puppy/young dog still. She was Ok again this afternoon when I took her up to the forest our City is situated near/within. Maybe's she just picked up a parasite from swimming in the latter months of summer which was hard to shake. The Antibiotic injection seems to have worked wonders and hopefully the blood stats come back Ok tomorrow. Have fun and good luck with your pups mate. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

41 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Cheers for all the suggestions. That last line is the most interesting of them all. I’ll get her to have a look at the insurance. 

 

The biggest trick that worked with our dogs over the years is as follows (Obviously relies on other dog owners willing to go along with it, and is specifically for dogs that don't seem to get along).
 

When you come across another dog and owner and both dogs want to get at each other, give the other owner some treats/or ask them to use their own to give to your dog, and you give their dog a few treats. They then see you as someone who has befriended and feeding them, we all know that treats work wonders for training. They won't even bother with each other, just focus on the fact you are friendly and giving them treats. The next time you cross they'll focus on that rather than each other, the more you do this with various owners the less of a shit your dog will give about other dogs and they'll focus more on the owners. Obviously just phase the treat thing out and just do it now and again once you have gotten the desired affect. It's worked for us on every dog we have owned, plus the age of the dog doesn't really matter. The reason dogs have a go at others is partly down to them thinking they are defending you (obviously there are other reasons), if they see the other person and you being friendly towards each other and of course them, they realise there is no threat. 

[Rotpeter]

Where's the Tooth when you need him!

[Karl_b]

7 month update - he's a little adolescent twatbasket. Still adorable mind. I swore I'd never be one of those people that dresses up their dog but....well...err, Merry Christmas!

 

 

 

No wonder he hates us.

[Dr Nowt]

He looks fucking ace, Karl.

 

Had a nasty shock with one of mine the other week. He’d not been right, lost a bit of weight quickly and coughing, and we’re fairly neurotic with the dogs so had gone straight for blood and faeces tests. Took a call at a motorway services about four hours from home, driving back from the derby, to be told by the vets he had Lungworm. She told me every time they‘ve seen a case of it it’s been fatal and, as a relatively emerging disease, she couldn’t give us much to be optimistic about because the instances they do see are few, far between and tragic. A fucking grim drive back, that was.

 

He’s now on Day 12 of a 21 day treatment programme, all but stopped coughing, putting the weight back on and has mostly returned to his bouncing ADHD, full-time diva self, from moping about sorrowfully all the time. Not going to tempt fate or speak too soon, we just need to wait out this 3 week treatment period, get him tested again if he makes it through and, if he’s then found to be clear from the various stages of parasite, find out where possible what lasting damage has been left to his heart, lungs etc.
 

Seems more optimistic than it was initially however, and the local specialist reckons we seem to have caught it very early, greatly improving his prognosis.

 

In the meanwhile, here’s the massive twat resource guarding an apple juice bottle he’s taken out of the recycling that nobody else wants but he’s convinced is a hill he needs to die on, despite having more prosaic concerns in that department.

 

 

 

 

[rb14]

[Dr Nowt]

Ha. That’s completely mental.

 

Seen one outside a country pub in The Purbecks round here which sits in its owner’s motorbike sidecar with biking goggles on, like Wallace and Gromit, but that knocks it into a cocked hat.

[Karl_b]

19 hours ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

He looks fucking ace, Karl.

 

Had a nasty shock with one of mine the other week. He’d not been right, lost a bit of weight quickly and coughing, and we’re fairly neurotic with the dogs so had gone straight for blood and faeces tests. Took a call at a motorway services about four hours from home, driving back from the derby, to be told by the vets he had Lungworm. She told me every time they‘ve seen a case of it it’s been fatal and, as a relatively emerging disease, she couldn’t give us much to be optimistic about because the instances they do see are few, far between and tragic. A fucking grim drive back, that was.

 

He’s now on Day 12 of a 21 day treatment programme, all but stopped coughing, putting the weight back on and has mostly returned to his bouncing ADHD, full-time diva self, from moping about sorrowfully all the time. Not going to tempt fate or speak too soon, we just need to wait out this 3 week treatment period, get him tested again if he makes it through and, if he’s then found to be clear from the various stages of parasite, find out where possible what lasting damage has been left to his heart, lungs etc.
 

Seems more optimistic than it was initially however, and the local specialist reckons we seem to have caught it very early, greatly improving his prognosis.

 

In the meanwhile, here’s the massive twat resource guarding an apple juice bottle he’s taken out of the recycling that nobody else wants but he’s convinced is a hill he needs to die on, despite having more prosaic concerns in that department.

 

 

 

 

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Glad to hear he's on the mend, fingers crossed for a full recovery. I'd be a wreck if that happened, I've already realised I'm a complete fucking wimp when it comes to Monty's health and safety.

 

The photos with the apple juice bottle are ace, the daft cunt.

[Curly]

21 hours ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

He looks fucking ace, Karl.

 

Had a nasty shock with one of mine the other week. He’d not been right, lost a bit of weight quickly and coughing, and we’re fairly neurotic with the dogs so had gone straight for blood and faeces tests. Took a call at a motorway services about four hours from home, driving back from the derby, to be told by the vets he had Lungworm. She told me every time they‘ve seen a case of it it’s been fatal and, as a relatively emerging disease, she couldn’t give us much to be optimistic about because the instances they do see are few, far between and tragic. A fucking grim drive back, that was.

 

He’s now on Day 12 of a 21 day treatment programme, all but stopped coughing, putting the weight back on and has mostly returned to his bouncing ADHD, full-time diva self, from moping about sorrowfully all the time. Not going to tempt fate or speak too soon, we just need to wait out this 3 week treatment period, get him tested again if he makes it through and, if he’s then found to be clear from the various stages of parasite, find out where possible what lasting damage has been left to his heart, lungs etc.
 

Seems more optimistic than it was initially however, and the local specialist reckons we seem to have caught it very early, greatly improving his prognosis.

 

In the meanwhile, here’s the massive twat resource guarding an apple juice bottle he’s taken out of the recycling that nobody else wants but he’s convinced is a hill he needs to die on, despite having more prosaic concerns in that department.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like you’ve acted quickly and hopefully helped the little lad get through it mate. Horrible that feeling when they give you the worst case prognosis.

On 05/11/2019 at 14:29, Captain Turdseye said:

Cheers for all the suggestions. That last line is the most interesting of them all. I’ll get her to have a look at the insurance. 

How did you get on with all that in the end? Was it covered on the insurance?

[Dr Nowt]

Cheers lads. Can’t lie, I was devastated when she told me. Driving with a thousand mile stare for hours.

 

He’s an incredibly endearing character. Came to us with an oddly insecure need to own anything he can grab hold of and get all siege mentality about - including his own collar, which he regularly grips in his mouth while he’s wearing it and marches himself off to bed, growling at everyone not to try and take it off him like a big spaz. Plus he never stops talking and making ridiculous noises that crease me up. He’s fucking ace.

 

What can you do. Pragmatism reigns, so just making sure he’s not suffering first and foremost and anything more would be a massive bonus.

[Captain Turdseye]

1 hour ago, belarus said:

How did you get on with all that in the end? Was it covered on the insurance?

 

Never even got around to checking. I mentioned it to my bird but she hasn’t followed it up. 

 

She’s found a kennels five minutes up the road which has a huge enclosed space that you can hire for £8 an hour and we’ve bought him his own car seat so he doesn’t fuck up my leather. They’ve got all the little tubes and fences at this place like they have at dog shows as well as various other bits. She’s been taking him every weekend, having it coincide with whatever time the reds kick off. He comes back absolutely fucked and in desperate need of a shower. The kids still run him around the block every day but just that once a week blow out off the lead seems to have calmed him right down and for the most part he’s staying away from the front door when we open it. 

 

He’s booked in to stay at that kennels when we’re at a wedding in April. It’ll be good for him to have a proper tear around there when there’s other dogs as well. He used to love chasing dogs in the fields near ours before he turned into a runaway twat. 

[Dr Nowt]

You only do two days in the can. The day you go in and the day you come out.