UKIP

[Creator Supreme]

Cheers Jairz

[Stu Monty]

 

 

 

U a total simpleton voting for a racist investment banker that wants to strip away all your employment rights?

 

Bro.

[Dr Nowt]

A UKIP supporter, calling other people brainwashed?

 

Someone give Morissette a bell and let her know there's a working definition on this thread.

[Mook]

This is what the likes of yourself have been saying for the past few years only to be proven wrong every time, keep saying it though, you might convince yourself eventually.

Are you at the wind up?

 

Have a read of the UKIP manifesto, enlighten yourself.

[Dr Nowt]

Say what you like about Doooooooooodek, but he writes a mean article.

 

Britain’s criminally stupid attitudes to race and immigration are beyond parody

Frankie Boyle

 

Monday 20 April 2015 18.06 BST

Last modified on Monday 20 April 2015 18.09 BST

   

I sometimes wonder if satire has reached a nadir in Britain because British society has itself become a parody of itself. The Chipping Norton Set: the prime minister, a tabloid editor and a Roger Mellie-ish TV icon all conveniently living in the same little town and taking turns at being the centre of scandal, feels like a novel Martin Amis bashed out because his conservatory was leaking. Likewise there has been an element of tragic irony this week as the growing drumbeat of anti-immigration election rhetoric has been punctuated by the mass drowning of migrants.

 

The SNP’s growing popularity has prompted a little low-level press racism of the kilts-and-porridge variety, as an English electorate struggles with the idea that there will be Scottish people holding the reins of power for the first time since the last government. Nicola Sturgeon has been called “the most dangerous woman in Britain”, by someone who hasn’t met any other Scottish women. Of course, it’s difficult to explain to English people that we have always had their best interests at heart – if we hadn’t invented penicillin they would have all died in a Greek airport departure lounge. There have already been a couple of amusing moments in the campaign when leaders standing in front of union jacks expounding on the need for a £100bn missile system have taken time out to warn us about the dangers of nationalism. Personally, I think it might be invigorating to have a hung parliament where, before any law was passed, the government had to have an argument with a Scottish person.

 

“Gosh, you seem awfully good at this. Have you had some practice?”

 

“I’m not actually part of the Scottish negotiating team, I’m just here to take your drinks order …”

 

“Ah, right, could I have a cup of tea?”

 

“NO.”

 

Ed Miliband’s anti-immigration stance is odd: it’s hard to vote for a man who doesn’t have the confidence to defend his own existence. It seems that his main argument against immigrants is that his dad raised a befuddled fuckwit. Could you hand Labour’s “controls on immigration” mug to a guest? There’s nothing like jollying up a Macmillan Cancer Support coffee morning by making your neighbours feel like the pakoras were a little unwelcome. Let’s not forget where coffee and tea come from: this mug is bitterly opposed to its own contents. Unless you drink hot Tizer from a coffee cup, the drink inside that mug will be an immigrant. The logic of a receptacle for hot beverages provided by slavery and colonisation being anti-immigrant bears no more examination than a pair of homophobic Speedos.

 

Then there’s Ukip, like someone made a heavy-handed version of The Thick of It for ITV. They don’t want Britain to be ruled by foreigners – with the notable exception of the royal family. They want an Australian-style points system for immigration. Who knows what this will look like, but my suspicion is “being white” will be like catching the snitch in Quidditch. If we have become a self-satirising society, Ukip are just the broader end, the easy slapstick laughs. They even have a porn-star candidate. Of course, he isn’t the first MP to have filmed himself having sex. But he is the first to do so with an adult, whom he allowed to live.

 

Even our charity is essentially patronising. Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod and he can feed himself. Alternatively, don’t poison the fishing waters, abduct his great-grandparents into slavery, then turn up 400 years later on your gap year talking a lot of shite about fish.

 

In a further nod to satire, Comic Relief this year focused on Malawi and Uganda. I didn’t see any acknowledgement that Britain had been the colonial power in those countries. “Thanks for the gold, lads, thanks for the diamonds. We had a whip-round and got you a fishing rod.”

 

A lot of racism comes from projection. White Americans have a stereotype of black people being criminals purely because they can’t acknowledge that it was actually white people that stole them from Africa in the first place. Today, you have the spectacle of black men being gunned down by cops who, by way of mitigation, release footage to show that the victims were running away. This is what happens when you don’t understand or even acknowledge history. You end up in a situation where, when slavery is the elephant in the room in your relationship with African Americans, you think it’s OK to say that you killed one of them because he was trying to escape.

 

Britain is in a similar place with colonialism. We have streets named after slave owners. We profited from a vile crime and feel no shame. We fear the arrival of immigrants that we have drawn here with the wealth we stole from them. For much of the rest of the world we must be the focus of bitter amusement, characters in a satire we don’t understand. It is British people that don’t learn languages, or British history. Britain is the true scrounger, the true criminal.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

A UKIP supporter, calling other people brainwashed?

 

Someone give Morissette a bell and let her know there's a working definition on this thread.

Amen!

[Gym Beglin]

I'm voting UKIP just because I can. fuck it, let's have race and class riots.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I'm voting UKIP because I hate myself and I want a Government that despises me even more than the current one.

 

Also, I'm stupid.  And racist.

[Dr Nowt]

[Jairzinho]

 

 Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod and he can feed himself. Alternatively, don’t poison the fishing waters, abduct his great-grandparents into slavery, then turn up 400 years later on your gap year talking a lot of shite about fish.

 

In a further nod to satire, Comic Relief this year focused on Malawi and Uganda. I didn’t see any acknowledgement that Britain had been the colonial power in those countries. “Thanks for the gold, lads, thanks for the diamonds. We had a whip-round and got you a fishing rod.”

 

I liked this a lot.

[General Dryness]

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Here's hoping May 8th in South Thanet looks a bit like that.

[DooooodekNo5]

Uh oh, I've upset the lefties and the predictable nasty tantrums and abuse ensue, what a surprise!

 

How dare me and multiple millions of Brits have a different opinion to you lot, not that you even know my politcal opinions, just some mere praise of UKIP has you lot irrationally frothing at the mouth, it's actually quite disturbing behaviour and of course soaked in hypocrisy.

 

To the poster above, yes I have read most of their manifesto, there's a whole lot of common sense in there, certainly compared to the other parties.

[DooooodekNo5]

 

Is that supposed to send me into a spin like the memes I posted I did to you lot?

 

That won't work because I'm sane, I know you are too, what is it about Farage that makes you go all loopy?

[Rocky Sullivan]

He's a cunt in wolf's clothing.

[razor]

His politics.

[DooooodekNo5]

I'm voting UKIP because I hate myself and I want a Government that despises me even more than the current one.

 

Also, I'm stupid.  And racist.

 

Says the person that votes Green, Green! haha Come off it.

 

Can you explain to me what racist policies UKIP have got and then can you also explain and justify the behaviour of your deputy leader here...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EYX8WxpmJw

[DooooodekNo5]

I've been in and around politics for a long time, I've seen shitty little single issue parties come and go, they come in and resonate, then they actually have to stop being stupid cunts. What you're saying is what the BNP said last time around... 'you might convince yourself that we're not serious'. Fucking right wing cunts.

 

Yep, that really shows in the post

 

I'm not saying anything the BNP says, that's you smearing me purely because I have something positive to say about UKIP, very scummy and snide behaviour, this is exactly the sort of thing why people are sick of politics, thankfully it's also the sort of behaviour that many people are waking up too and seeing right through, it's also pushing them to say 'fuck you' and vote for something different.

 

It's also why I suspect the shy UKIP vote will be large and they will be much nearer 20% of the vote than 10%, I guarantee you there are a fair few who are voting UKIP on this forum that wouldn't dare admit it on here purely because of the mentalists flying off the handle and abusing them, people just can't be dealing with that shit, they'll just quietly go and put that X next to UKIP on the 7th.

[Jairzinho]

Is that supposed to send me into a spin like the memes I posted I did to you lot?

 

That won't work because I'm sane, I know you are too, what is it about Farage that makes you go all loopy?

 

Send me into a spin? Go all loopy? Er, what?

 

This is the sort of slightly bizarre narrative that Farage actually uses himself. You know, when he's pretending to be an outsider to the establishment. When he's pretending to be the oppressed. The idea that UKIP is engaging in some sort of movement, changing the dynamic of politics, and representing an alternative to the status quo, is, frankly, laughable. He's an ex Tory, ex banker, that has tapped into the conscious of the great reservoir of the previously disengaged by having his picture taken in the pub once a week and spouting a bit of xenophobic rhetoric. It's depressing, on a number of levels. Partly because a lot of the people that have bought into this tedious, thankfully short lived, charade, should be being represented by the Labour Party. They're right to feel abandoned, because they have been. But the idea that they're better represented by a man who wanted a flat rate of tax is, obviously, ludicrous.

 

I honestly don't care all that much about Farage. He has no power, and nor will he ever have any. He'll disappear in a few years, probably go back to his old job trading junk bonds, helping the plight of the British working class about as much as he does now.

[DooooodekNo5]

Why has this Doooooodek cunt still got a positive reputation? Unless he's on the wind up, naming himself after a Polish keeper?

 

Have a green point on me if this sort of shit means something to you, you can have them, you've got them all from now on.

[DooooodekNo5]

Send me into a spin? Go all loopy? Er, what?

 

This is the sort of slightly bizarre narrative that Farage actually uses himself. You know, when he's pretending to be an outsider to the establishment. When he's pretending to be the oppressed. The idea that UKIP is engaging in some sort of movement, changing the dynamic of politics, and representing an alternative to the status quo, is, frankly, laughable. He's an ex Tory, ex banker, that has tapped into the conscious of the great reservoir of the previously disengaged by having his picture taken in the pub once a week and spouting a bit of xenophobic rhetoric. It's depressing, on a number of levels. Partly because a lot of the people that have bought into this tedious, thankfully short lived, charade, should be being represented by the Labour Party. They're right to feel abandoned, because they have been. But the idea that they're better represented by a man who wanted a flat rate of tax is, obviously, ludicrous.

 

I honestly don't care all that much about Farage. He has no power, and nor will he ever have any. He'll disappear in a few years, probably go back to his old job trading junk bonds, helping the plight of the British working class about as much as he does now.

 

You posting that picture was pure bluenose behaviour, absolutely to a tee, you speak a lot of sense on the football too, anyway...

 

Your post is something I see written in the puke inducing Guardian a million times over, it's all personal attacks on him and you saying that they'll disappear into oblivion blah blah ZzzZZzzz, very little if any mention of their policies and what they mean, good or bad,  change the record and get some new material, stop copy and pasting from the Guardian, it's drivel.

 

What do you make of your deputy leader in that video above? Do you think it's racist/Xenephobic? 

[Jairzinho]

You posting that picture was pure bluenose behaviour, absolutely to a tee, you speak a lot of sense on the football too, anyway...

 

Your post is something I see written in the puke inducing Guardian a million times over, it's all personal attacks on him and you saying that they'll disappear into oblivion blah blah ZzzZZzzz, very little if any mention of their policies and what they mean, good or bad,  change the record and get some new material, stop copy and pasting from the Guardian, it's drivel.

 

What do you make of your deputy leader in that video above? Do you think it's racist/Xenephobic? 

 

I find the picture amusing, apologies.

 

It really wasn't all personal attacks on him, was it? Be honest. You're trying to leap to the defence of something I haven't actually bothered attacking. I could have made some personal attacks, I do think he's a fairly appalling human, but thankfully he doesn't have any power, and therefore I'm not all that arsed about him. Seriously, they'll get no more than five seats. That's FPTP for you.

 

My deputy leader? I'll probably vote Green (the choice is between Green, or spoiling my ballot), but please don't mistake that for feeling the need to defend all of their policies and/or agreeing with all of them. They're the closest to what I believe in that I can vote for, and therefore I probably will. Not, I should stress, that I have any faith at all in our "democracy". After all, my vote isn't actually going to count for anything. I live in a Tory safe seat.

 

First time I've seen that clip, and, er, although it's a little difficult to be entirely confident such is the lack of knowledge of what preceded it, I don't think he said anything xenophobic or racist, no.

 

And I can assure you I'm not copying and pasting from the Guardian, I tend to agree with you that most of it is drivel. Although I suspect for differing reasons.

[Hades]

Say what you like about Doooooooooodek, but he writes a mean article.

 

 

I urge people to avoid the comments section below the excellent article.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Yep, that really shows in the post

 

I'm not saying anything the BNP says, that's you smearing me purely because I have something positive to say about UKIP, very scummy and snide behaviour, this is exactly the sort of thing why people are sick of politics, thankfully it's also the sort of behaviour that many people are waking up too and seeing right through, it's also pushing them to say 'fuck you' and vote for something different.

What on earth are you dribbling on about. I'm not comparing BNP with UKIP, I'm giving an example of a single issue party acting in a divisive way to get votes who has then vanished up its own arse.

 

I guarantee you there are a fair few who are voting UKIP on this forum that wouldn't dare admit it on here purely because of the mentalists flying off the handle and abusing them, people just can't be dealing with that shit, they'll just quietly go and put that X next to UKIP on the 7th.

Then, in my view, they're stupid. Opposing UKIP's pseudo-Tory views isn't 'mental', it's just sensible. Voting for UKIP will get a handful of MPs, who will pretty much all be gone in a few years.

[skend04]

Next time someone at work asks me directly what would happen if UKIP got in power, I'm gonna cave the fucker's head in with my hole punch. I'm Indian, my parents and grandparents are these so called unskilled migrants you want shot of. Don't you think you're being a bit offensive asking? On top of that they want to take every working persons basic employment rights away from them, yet chirpily they sit there and verbatim say "That Farage is a good bloke!" Fuck off with this shit....Aaaargh!