Football opinion amnesty thread

[Tony Moanero]

and?

Ultimately, that's what a striker is paid to do.

 

Had a goal incorrectly ruled out in the Semi-Final, too.

[stringvest]

Ultimately, that's what a striker is paid to do.

 

Had a goal incorrectly ruled out in the Semi-Final, too.

 

 

during his career at Liverpool he squandered 9 out of 10 chances - not all direct chances, admittedly, but loads of plays where he was just too slow to get on the end of stuff.  Pass the ball to him when he was out wide, and any momentum was lost.  

 

In addition, his workrate was vastly overrated.  Full backs would walk past him with the ball, and usually he wouldn't bother chasing them back.  He gave full backs their easiest game of the season.  Just as well he took pens.  

 

Stultifying is the word I would use to describe Kuyt.  There is more to football than a busy running style and 100% commitment.  

 

I understand this isn't the accepted view, but it's my view.  Ray Houghton was miles better than him.  

[Tony Moanero]

I disagree with most of that.

 

You didn't rate Kuyt, I did. Let's just leave it at that.

[stringvest]

I disagree with most of that.

 

You didn't rate Kuyt, I did. Let's just leave it at that.

 

 

indeed.  This is an amnesty thread, not one for debate.  I did all that at the time and I got bored of it then.  

[Trumo]

Re: the 2005 and 2007 finals.

 

We seemed to play a lot better against Milan in 2007 than we had in 2005, but we didn't have enough goal threat on the pitch. Kuyt and Gerrard were the only starters who were capable of providing a goal threat. Our 4-2-3-1 had Pennant and Zenden either side of Gerrard. Pennant had the better of his opponent Jankulovski but he'd never been a player who you could call a goal threat, and Zenden was the sort of player to help provide tactical discipline in midfield rather than any sort of attacking threat. While we spent more time in the Milan half than in 2005, we didn't create an awful lot.

 

Our 4-4-2 in 2005 had Gerrard, Garcia and even Kewell there to provide attacking threat behind Baros, and with Riise in a more advanced wide position, he was capable of supplimenting our attack as he had done pretty much throughout the season. When we switched to 3-5-2 with Hamann bolstering the centre of midfield and Gerrard playing as a wing back (as did Riise), Baros (and later Cisse) had Garcia and Smicer supplimenting the attack with Gerrard playing like a man on a mission to provide an additional threat.

 

If Rafa had gone with Crouch as a starter in 2007, it would probably have been at the expense of Zenden. I don't know if Crouch would have dominated the Milan centre backs the way his brief cameo might have suggested, but we would have had more players on the pitch providing a goal threat we could have profited from. We'd not done too badly during the season because we had people playing off Crouch. And we could have brought Bellamy on as an impact sub if need be later on.

 

Rafa had opted for bravery in 2005 and it came undone so he had to switch to a more pragmatic set-up in 2007. The six minutes of madness from Milan papered over the cracks a little in Istanbul. The manager must have had this in mind when selecting his 2007 line-up because he went for pragmatism from the start. Mind you, so did Milan compared to 2005.

[aRdja]

indeed. This is an amnesty thread, not one for debate. I did all that at the time and I got bored of it then.

Fuck marry kill... Coutinho, Lucas, Kuyt?

[johnsusername]

I hate every other team and don't see the point in a second team. I want everyone who isn't LFC to lose.

[ZonkoVille77]

Kuyt is one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched. Heart of gold but he drove me absolutely bonkers.

[Jairzinho]

Heart of gold...and loads and loads of goals.

[stringvest]

Fuck marry kill... Coutinho, Lucas, Kuyt?

 

 

you got the order right.

[Grinch]

Still think the squad is only going to be good enough for 6th this season.

 

Simply put, theres five teams much better in the league and none of them are struggling.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Still think the squad is only going to be good enough for 6th this season.

Simply put, theres five teams much better in the league and none of them are struggling.

If we don't make a couple of signings or have luck with injuries the best I think we can get is 5th.

The cups won't help although a trophy would be nice.

[liverpoolsno9]

when taking a corner, why can't they just put the ball on the line in the quadrant and take the fucking corner instead of fannying round putting it as close to out of the quadrant as possible.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Lazy players moving the ball far too slowly giving opposition time to get back. A second here and there makes a huge difference. Midfielders are the worse culprits, Can, Lucas and Stewart infuriate me.

[billypilgrimnz]

when taking a corner, why can't they just put the ball on the line in the quadrant and take the fucking corner instead of fannying round putting it as close to out of the quadrant as possible.

 

That shit pisses me off too. Especially because 99 times out of 100, the corner is shit anyway.

[Bjornebye]

when taking a corner, why can't they just put the ball on the line in the quadrant and take the fucking corner instead of fannying round putting it as close to out of the quadrant as possible.

Ha I agree there. Milner fucking loves it

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

That extra inch taking the corner means it hits the first man that bit higher.

[Gym Beglin]

Emre Can is twice as good as people think he is, much like Tom Huddlestone, and yet like the podgy maestro is destined for a very average career due to his lack of mobility.

[Torvald Utne]

I hate talking to people in the real world about football, especially colleagues, it's cringey as fuck.

[Tony Moanero]

Yeah, I avoid discussing it, always have. Tend to tell people that I don't like football, as it's easier.

[Gym Beglin]

I hate talking to people in the real world about football, especially colleagues, it's cringey as fuck.

 

 

"did you see the game last night?"

 

*Yes, it consumes my life, of course I fucking 'watched' it, and no, I'm not up for talking about it with you, you're a casual, a tourist, and you won't like talking to me about the game because I'll go full rainman and want to talk to you about Clyne's positioning when they nearly got a corner, but you'll just want to go on about a great save someone did, or how good that free-kick goal was.  You see sunshine, whereas I see a burning star at the edge of the galaxy emitting radiation and heating the planet one cubic inch at a time, this isn't going to work, it's not you, its me.

 

"Yes I saw the game" 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Living abroad is ace, get to talk about the game in a civilised manner with all sorts of fans. When I sometimes read the rabid comments on those HYS sections of the BBC it just backs this up even more. Football fans have always been tribal but the amount of mongs in the UK beggars belief. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

You don't realise how bad it is until you overhear others talking about it. I was getting a burger one day and the bloke cooking it was having a long drawn out conversation about how he though Gary Neville should be the next England manager because he was young and already knows the players. Unfortunately, I'd already paid, so couldn't just leave, but I've not been back there since. 

 

Nice burger though.

[Tony Moanero]

I'm sick of hearing about Liverpool's "pressing game".

[Arl arse]

I'm sick of hearing about Liverpool's depressing games.