A thread about a man named Xabi

[Lupin]

In which case, please accept my app-ol-ogies.

[Lupin]

My take on this thing...

 

Xabi would not be unhappy about going to Madrid - equally, he'd be just as happy to say where he is. On top of this, he's enjoying being in some demand, both with us and Madrid and is probably getting some minor schadenfreude style satisfaction at Rafa's minor discomfort in all this.

 

He won't ask for a transfer not because of the money/loyalty (I've never been convinced he has that mercenary instinct) but because he's not that bothered about moving adopting the 'if they want me, then they'll pay', which given the money they've forked out for Placcy. Kaka, Benzema and even Albiol would seem a reasonable stance to take.

 

The fact he is a Basque and his dad was a Barcalona hero won't stop him going to Madrid if they come up with the full wonga - but it might give him a wry grin at their predicament too.

[zigackly]

My take is that he really wants to go to Madrid, and Benitez is not exactly averse to selling him, so it comes down to whether we can get the price we want. If we can then he will go and both he and Rafa will be happy. If we can't then he will stay and both he and Rafa will get on with the season.

[Lupin]

My take is that he really wants to go to Madrid, and Benitez is not exactly averse to selling him, so it comes down to whether we can get the price we want. If we can then he will go and both he and Rafa will be happy. If we can't then he will stay and both he and Rafa will get on with the season.

 

Similar to my own position then, except for the emphasis. I don't think he really wants to go to Madrid (he's certainly not adverse to it however) as he could force it in a number of ways, most obviously by handing in a request. He hasn't and he won't, which in the end indicates to me that although given a straight choice he may well prefer the Madrid chance, not by much and he's not all that bothered enough to push it.

[Bogman]

My take is that he really wants to go to Madrid, and Benitez is not exactly averse to selling him, so it comes down to whether we can get the price we want. If we can then he will go and both he and Rafa will be happy. If we can't then he will stay and both he and Rafa will get on with the season.

 

 

zigackly

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

My take on this thing...

 

Xabi would not be unhappy about going to Madrid - equally, he'd be just as happy to say where he is.

 

He really, really wants to go Madrid, it's just not the way he, his agent or Madrid had planned.

 

As a result Madrid are looking at having to pay roughly double what they originally intended

 

The rest is merely specualtion and a interesting game of brinkmanship, not only between LFC and Xabi

 

But also interesting one between Xabi and Madrid

 

That is about the top and bottom of it

[coop]

He really, really wants to go Madrid, it's just not the way he, his agent or Madrid had planned.

 

As a result Madrid are looking at having to pay roughly double what they originally intended

 

The rest is merely specualtion and a interesting game of brinkmanship, not only between LFC and Xabi

 

But also interesting one between Xabi and Madrid

 

That is about the top and bottom of it

 

Im tipping Andy that you feel none of them expected Rafa to stick a 35m euro pricetag on Xabi and to stick by it.

[shaunstrudwick]

Im tipping Andy that you feel none of them expected Rafa to stick a 35m euro pricetag on Xabi and to stick by it.

 

quite - they thought they could get him on the cheap imo

[Lupin]

He really, really wants to go Madrid, it's just not the way he, his agent or Madrid had planned.

 

As a result Madrid are looking at having to pay roughly double what they originally intended

 

The rest is merely specualtion and a interesting game of brinkmanship, not only between LFC and Xabi

 

But also interesting one between Xabi and Madrid

 

That is about the top and bottom of it

 

Usually agree with you Andy, but if he really, really wants to go he can force the issue - and he hasn't and it seems, won't. Therefore allthough I'm happy to go along with the idea that Real may well be his first choice (and certainly his agent's), I'm still not that convinced when push comes to shove that Alonso himself is all that arsed and that if he had to stay, then he doesn't really mind that either.

[05 Milan]

I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that he wants to go. And it hurts. I realize he's been treated badly, but he knows the fans love him to death and the manager is now saying publicly that he wants him to stay. He knows that's as close to an apology he'll get from Rafa anyway. Stay, Xabi!

[Lupin]

Well exactly - I think he wants to go, but not as much as some think and who knows - maybe not as much as he may have thought himself.

 

He still might go, but with each day that passes the chances of him staying increase - he may well get pissed off with Madrid's reluctance to pay the asking price too and call an end to it.

[Royal Family]

He really, really wants to go Madrid, it's just not the way he, his agent or Madrid had planned.

 

As a result Madrid are looking at having to pay roughly double what they originally intended

 

The rest is merely specualtion and a interesting game of brinkmanship, not only between LFC and Xabi

 

But also interesting one between Xabi and Madrid

 

That is about the top and bottom of it

 

The other unknown is how much of the Xabi fee Rafa would be allowed to reinvest? A few decent rumours that he's been told that he'd only get whatever instalment Madrid paid this summer - so if the fee were £30m over 3 payments, Rafa would only get to see £10m of it. Which might explain why Purslow apparently told Madrid that we wanted payment up front, as indeed United received for Ronaldo.

 

What disappoints me now is that Xabi ought to be aware that MAdrid don't REALLY want him (rather like us and Barry last summer, some would say?) - he is, as perez put it weeks ago, "a low priority signing". It's time for him to come out and commit to Liverpool now before his reputation with most of the fans becomes unsalvageable. Xabi isn't stupid, but he's giving a good impression of being so this summer...

[Guest Dog Chaser]

I was certain he was going and i wasn't expecting him to join the squad in Switzerland, not that it means he isn't going. If we get £25 million or more then i think we have done very well from it. Step up Mr Spearing.

[Antynwa]

Another angle is this.

 

'Liverpool want me, Madrid want me either way I'm a greedy cunt, and it's all good'

 

I don't care anymore, just like other people, I'm tired of 'Is he going, isn't he going, what will we do if he goes'.

 

I'm bemused that after 5 years at the club, 5 years leading towards title success he will leave when it looks like we can really push on. Why leave Liverpool? Why leave now?

 

Because he's a greedy cunt

[RedKnight]

He will stay barring an absolute corker of a bid from Real, and that won't happen.

[Lupin]

I was certain he was going and i wasn't expecting him to join the squad in Switzerland, not that it means he isn't going. If we get £25 million or more then i think we have done very well from it. Step up Mr Spearing.

 

With the best will in the world, as much as I love the Mekon that is Jay Spearing, he's nowhere near ready for that - part-time in easier games, yeah - why not if we're doing well - but fulltime in tougher ones? Nope.

 

And £25m for Xabi is good money - if someone other than the obscenely profligate Real Madrid are buying - they're not - so it's a minimum £35m to dance or fuck off Valdano.

 

'Few players in the world can do what Alonso does' - so pay up then, cuntface or get off the pot.

[Lupin]

Another angle is this.

 

'Liverpool want me, Madrid want me either way I'm a greedy cunt, and it's all good'

 

I don't care anymore, just like other people, I'm tired of 'Is he going, isn't he going, what will we do if he goes'.

 

I'm bemused that after 5 years at the club, 5 years leading towards title success he will leave when it looks like we can really push on. Why leave Liverpool? Why leave now?

 

Because he's a greedy cunt

 

Huge leap of the usual 'all footballers are greedy cunts' child's mentality, backed up with nothing other than tarring everyone with the lowest moral intentions.

 

'Liverpool want me, Madrid want me , and it's all good' is a more likely truism.

[Paul]

Xabi Alonso might leave? What the fuck? Where did this story appear from?

[05 Milan]

Another angle is this.

 

'Liverpool want me, Madrid want me either way I'm a greedy cunt, and it's all good'

 

I don't care anymore, just like other people, I'm tired of 'Is he going, isn't he going, what will we do if he goes'.

 

I'm bemused that after 5 years at the club, 5 years leading towards title success he will leave when it looks like we can really push on. Why leave Liverpool? Why leave now?

 

Because he's a greedy cunt

 

 

HO!!! What the fuck???

[paddyberger15]

He really, really wants to go Madrid, it's just not the way he, his agent or Madrid had planned.

 

As a result Madrid are looking at having to pay roughly double what they originally intended

 

The rest is merely specualtion and a interesting game of brinkmanship, not only between LFC and Xabi

 

But also interesting one between Xabi and Madrid

 

That is about the top and bottom of it

 

Yup, that is it. UEM bang on the money.

[05 Milan]

He will stay barring an absolute corker of a bid from Real, and that won't happen.

 

Great news. Hope we can still afford Silva.

[rebel23]

He will stay barring an absolute corker of a bid from Real, and that won't happen.

 

or Inter bid for him with the Ibra money

[WaltonRed]

Madrid can afford it the shady fuckers so they should pay up.

 

It'll go on and on and on, he'll leave and we'll start the season without a replacement.

[Chinandeler Bong]

Yup, that is it. UEM bang on the money.

 

If he really really wants to go then hand in a fuckin transfer request or shut up and get on with it.

[paddyberger15]

If he really really wants to go then hand in a fuckin transfer request or shut up and get on with it.

 

Is the correct answer.