The 2009 Grand National

[lpool_red]

It is a cumulative bet on 4 horses.

 

the betting vernacular goes - Single , Double , Treble , Four-fold .

 

 

cheers lads - so do you make one bet then? ie £10 four fold or would they expect £40 then??

 

sorry i normally stick to the basics and normally just do the footy coupon.

[redrosetints]

Walk On and a forecast with Denman to beat and Exotic dancer.

[paddyberger15]

cheers lads - so do you make one bet then? ie £10 four fold or would they expect £40 then??

 

sorry i normally stick to the basics and normally just do the footy coupon.

 

It depends on what you want to do mate. A four fold is basically a 4 horse accumulator, so you could put a tenner on to win on all four horses costing you a tenner, or 5 e/w accumulator costing you a tenner, or whatever amount you wanted. The winnings from each race carry forward as long as your bet is still alive.

Say you had a tenner win four fold and the first horse won at 2-1, you have 30 nicker going on the next horse at say 5/2 or whatever, if that wins you have 105 nicker going on horse 3.

[Woo]

Walk On and a forecast with Denman to beat and Exotic dancer.

 

Are the returns decent on that forecast RRT?

 

I could check myself but I'm a lazy bastard.

[Carradona]

I have a Lucky 31 on Ruby's rides today, a Lucky 31 on AP's rides today and another Lucky 31 on Big Bucks, Walkon, Denman, Lorient Express and Chopaturgeon.

[Carradona]

What is a forecast?

 

Also, what does it mean to "lay a bet"?

[paddyberger15]

Are the returns decent on that forecast RRT?

 

I could check myself but I'm a lazy bastard.

 

I very much doubt it Al, they are way clear at the top of the market.

[sir roger]

cheers lads - so do you make one bet then? ie £10 four fold or would they expect £40 then??

 

sorry i normally stick to the basics and normally just do the footy coupon.

 

No , the bet would only be a tenner , but all of your four would have to win.

 

If you want to do it 'each-way' like Woo's , it would be £20 , as in effect one of your tenners goes on all four to win & the other tenner goes on all four to be placed in their races ( Be careful , depending on the amount of runners in the race it might need to be in the first 2 , 3 or 4 )

 

Alternatively you could pick 4 horses & do smaller cumulative bets

 

ie 6 x Doubles - you win if any 2 of the 4 win

4 x trebles - you win if any 3 of them win

1 x Fourfold - all of them need to win.

 

This would be 11 bets at whatever stake you can afford .

[Woo]

What is a forecast?

 

Also, what does it mean to "lay a bet"?

 

A forecast is where you predict who will come first and second in the race. There is an option just to select the two horses who will finish first and second, without predicting the particular order.

 

A lay bet is where you bet against a horse, but there's only betfair I know who do them. So for example a lay bet on Denman would be to bet on Denman not to win the race, rather than bet on him to win it.

[Carradona]

A forecast is where you predict who will come first and second in the race. There is an option just to select the two horses who will finish first and second, without predicting the particular order.

 

A lay bet is where you bet against a horse, but there's only betfair I know who do them. So for example a lay bet on Denman would be to bet on Denman not to win the race, rather than bet on him to win it.

 

Cheers, cottonsocks.

[Carradona]

I have a Lucky 31 on Ruby's rides today, a Lucky 31 on AP's rides today and another Lucky 31 on Big Bucks, Walkon, Denman, Lorient Express and Chopaturgeon.

 

ps. These are all Each Way Lucky 31s.

[Carradona]

Big Bucks takes the first race of the day. Bad last fence for Mighty Man.

[Woo]

Fantastic ride by Ruby Walsh, bided his time, and then schooled the others.

[Woo]

Walk on, walk on,

Getting whipped on the arse,

And you'll never lose a race,

You'll never lose a race.

[Carradona]

Going well enough so far. Hebridean was a bit disappointing there though.

[redrosetints]

Are the returns decent on that forecast RRT?

 

I could check myself but I'm a lazy bastard.

 

Denman was evens, Exotic 4-1 so should get decent return, they are the only two in the race for me, so get it on !!! Bit like the Cheltenham gold cup on Kauto star and Denman, were the only two in it really, got 6-1 for that. Walk on just walked on, get in lad !

[bigal]

First two races went according to plan, great price on Walkon this morning at 11/4

[redrosetints]

if you want some each way action, Deep Purple is running in the 16:55, he's 25-1, a good horse though guilty of a major mistake every once in a while. Father in laws horse, so I am a bit biased but worth an each way at 25s.

[longballs]

jeeeze Bob, that's some fine work there and an excellent guide for those of us who don't really gamble but have a flutter on the national.

 

Is there such a thing as the best time to place the bet? i.e. before now, now or right before the race or does it not really matter as the odds will change?

[Woo]

jeeeze Bob, that's some fine work there and an excellent guide for those of us who don't really gamble but have a flutter on the national.

 

Is there such a thing as the best time to place the bet? i.e. before now, now or right before the race or does it not really matter as the odds will change?

 

I'd say if you're going for one of the shorter priced horses, then earlier is normally better.

 

If you're going for one of the outsiders, then wait until tomorrow or Saturday.

 

But I'm still a relative newbie to all this, so don't take my word for it.

[bigal]

Woo's right, the bookies shorten the prices up on Friday/Saturday. Get on now, most do No Runner No Bet so you've got that insurance

[Woo]

Who's the cockney fella talking to John Parrott about the odds on the BBC coverage?

[Carradona]

Ruby down at the first.

[Carradona]

Fuck. Denman down.

[Woo]

Oh fuck!