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i know some parts of it are true. but the istanbul part imo is taking the piss he just doing what any player would do.

 

you cant say he was doing that to say im going to tell you lot to sing so sing thats just shit

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What the fuck is this?

 

The perfect example of ambivalence to Gerrard came in Istanbul. After he scored Liverpool’s opening goal, he turned to rouse the crowd, gesturing with his arms for fans to turn up the volume. The volume rose, for sure, but there was an irritated growl behind it: we didn’t need lesson in support from him. Afterwards, he hogged the cup, with only Jamie Carragher wresting it away for any length of time. Not the Liverpool way. Not the work of a captain, either.

 

What utter shite. I don't remember this "growl" he refers to. Utter utter bolox in that piece. There is no doubt that Gerrard is not thought of in the same light as Carra, but no one is. And no one probably ever will again. Gerrard is a close second in the love he receives fronm the Kop. And the "Hollywood balls" thing is just a criticismof some decisions he makes. Christ, every player gets that kind of criticism o bad decisions

 

That piece sounds like it was written by a Manc or bitter pretending to be a Liverpool fan to try and stir up shite. Terrible old bolox.

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Don't really follow, which part is laughable?

 

What the fuck is this?

 

The perfect example of ambivalence to Gerrard came in Istanbul. After he scored Liverpool’s opening goal, he turned to rouse the crowd, gesturing with his arms for fans to turn up the volume. The volume rose, for sure, but there was an irritated growl behind it: we didn’t need lesson in support from him. Afterwards, he hogged the cup, with only Jamie Carragher wresting it away for any length of time. Not the Liverpool way. Not the work of a captain, either.

 

What utter shite. I don't remember this "growl" he refers to. Utter utter bolox in that piece. There is no doubt that Gerrard is not thought of in the same light as Carra, but no one is. And no one probably ever will again. Gerrard is a close second in the love he receives fronm the Kop. And the "Hollywood balls" thing is just a criticismof some decisions he makes. Christ, every player gets that kind of criticism o bad decisions

 

That piece sounds like it was written by a Manc or bitter pretending to be a Liverpool fan to try and stir up shite. Terrible old bolox.

 

that part

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What the fuck is this?

 

The perfect example of ambivalence to Gerrard came in Istanbul. After he scored Liverpool’s opening goal, he turned to rouse the crowd, gesturing with his arms for fans to turn up the volume. The volume rose, for sure, but there was an irritated growl behind it: we didn’t need lesson in support from him. Afterwards, he hogged the cup, with only Jamie Carragher wresting it away for any length of time. Not the Liverpool way. Not the work of a captain, either.

 

What utter shite. I don't remember this "growl" he refers to. Utter utter bolox in that piece. There is no doubt that Gerrard is not thought of in the same light as Carra, but no one is. And no one probably ever will again. Gerrard is a close second in the love he receives fronm the Kop. And the "Hollywood balls" thing is just a criticismof some decisions he makes. Christ, every player gets that kind of criticism o bad decisions

 

That piece sounds like it was written by a Manc or bitter pretending to be a Liverpool fan to try and stir up shite. Terrible old bolox.

 

 

I think it's bang on the money, alot of lads I know locally who go the game feel the same way.

 

Also think the comment about his arrest making him a little more endearing to the natives is spot on.

 

And trust me, Tony is definately no Manc or Blue on a wind up.

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I think it's bang on the money, alot of lads I know locally who go the game feel the same way.

 

Also think the comment about his arrest making him a little more endearing to the natives is spot on.

 

And trust me, Tony is definately no Manc or Blue on a wind up.

 

Yeah, I know he isn't. But he makes this sound like Gerrard is almost hated, and is certainly the most unpopular of the players. He's not by any stretch. I don't see Gerrard as the true fan on the pitch anymore after all the Chelsea shite, but I certainly love the fact he plays for us and I know he'd go headfirst through a wall for the shirt on match day.

 

The stuff about Istanbul is shite though. I was there, and I'd be pretty sure you were and there was no undercurrent in any cheering and I didn't begrudge him running around with the trophy either. It's just another case of Liverpoool bashing. You never see this about that snidey spa-lipped cunt up the road.

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There was a lot of Stevie Me and The Ego stuff bandied around at the time of the Chelsea interest. Some of his comments didn't help either, about how he'd have to consider his future here if we didn't progress to his approval.

 

Things have improved vastly since then, and he's often been one of the few uplifting things about the club (with Torres) during recent times. He's matured and leads by example and inspiration rather than shouting and chasing referees and generally being a twat like Terry.

 

That writer still clearly has a beef with him though. Unhelpful and mischievous article at a time when everyone need to pull together.

 

And that line where he effectively has a go at him for showing a bit of passion in Istanbul (the goal celebration) is cuntish.

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Well first off the Attaturk is a big stadium. Where he was sitting,it may have appeared that way and I have to admit where I was sitting there was a few " who the fuck does he think he is?".

 

Whats more is that Gerrard clearly does not recieve the adulation his talents merit. Everyone realises that he's a great player but as a man a lot of fans don't really have any time for our skipper. If he played for any other club, he'd more than likely be treated with a lot more love by their fans.

 

Even in saying that , I don't blame our fans. Gerrard's behaviour for a few years was shocking even if he has matured beyond all recognition.

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have a number of friends who go to the games and I must agree that they are of the same mind re Gerrard. However, I think it sums up Liverpool that not one of the respondents is from Liverpool!!!

 

Richard, Nairobi, Kenya

 

 

laughable

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For me I can never forgive him for what he said to Shreeves in the Ataturk that night about ten minutes after the final whistle.

 

I just think a lot of scouse reds judge him on how they would be captain and on former captains.

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For me I can never forgive him for what he said to Shreeves in the Ataturk that night about ten minutes after the final whistle.

 

I just think a lot of scouse reds judge him on how they would be captain and on former captains.

 

" How can I leave after a night like this"?

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I have never forgotten what he did with the whole Chelsea situation, I've forgiven him, but never forgotten it.

 

That 24 hours after which he handed in the transfer request just made me feel sick and used. Watching the TV and every story using the footage from the Euro Final was a killer.

 

He may have scored some crucial goals that season, and played a key part in Istanbul, but he was a massive dickhead that season.

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I don't get the context of this though - some valid points in 2005 maybe but why the fuck drag it all up now?

 

Fuck knows, awful article in truth. I've never rated his stuff.

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Well Gerrard gets his name sung more then anyone at the game, and it can't be the OOTers as they don't sing as we know.... :whistle:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm joking before anyone gets upset.

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I don't get the context of this though - some valid points in 2005 maybe but why the fuck drag it all up now?

 

 

Probably off the back of the Top 50 list that was published over the weekend

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That year when I was on holiday, I was talking footie with some fans, and we where talking about our favourite players.

 

The fella in question was a Celtic Fan and he said 'Bet yours is Steven Gerrard' me and the other people from Liverpool laughed and said 'Nah, Jamie Carragher'

 

With Jamie Carragher and the locals, they can relate themselves to him, I just can't seem to do that with Gerrard.

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Yeah, I know he isn't. But he makes this sound like Gerrard is almost hated, and is certainly the most unpopular of the players. He's not by any stretch. I don't see Gerrard as the true fan on the pitch anymore after all the Chelsea shite, but I certainly love the fact he plays for us and I know he'd go headfirst through a wall for the shirt on match day.

 

The stuff about Istanbul is shite though. I was there, and I'd be pretty sure you were and there was no undercurrent in any cheering and I didn't begrudge him running around with the trophy either. It's just another case of Liverpoool bashing. You never see this about that snidey spa-lipped cunt up the road.

 

 

I understand what your saying, but I can also understand how it could be seen in a different light, we all interpret things in different ways.

 

Not saying anyone is right or wrong

 

And in regards to the comment in bold, your forgetting one thing

 

We have standards

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