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29 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

No, but it's a very good indicator of how someone's thought processes work.

Hmn... maybe. I’m not sure you can extrapolate from a single issue in that way. For example, we agree on drugs and a great many other things, yet few others have butted heads as regularly as we have. Our thought processes, similar on those issues, are pretty different at other times. 

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15 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Sure, but you are a left-liberal. In my experience most people involved with Labour aren't.

 

EDIT: especially as you go up the higher echelons

Seriously dude, your fear or otherwise refusal to be associated with anything left leaning really does appear to affect your liberal attitude.

most people from gen x down, that I meet tend to be generally pretty liberal, they also tend to be pretty left leaning. Which is most important? I think primalcy is looking after people, then secondary is the chance to flourish, so socialist ideals first.

goes back to nietzschean philosophy of fixing yourself before you can really help others. For me this means an underlying practice of looking out for each other with a bedrock of social needs met, which then allows the freedom of liberal choice to sit on top, which is pretty much what I believe Corbynism aspires to.

swinsonism on the other hand, seeks to retain the status quo of fiscal policy and government expenditure, but allow people more freedom. Sadly, those at the lower end of the socio-economic scale don’t get to enjoy the choices of that freedom without the bedrock of social support and redistribution of income.

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11 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

On the panel tonight.

 

James Cleverly, chairman of the Conservative party.

Clive Lewis,  Labour, shadow treasury minister.

Alex Phillips,  Brexit party.

Liz Saville Roberts, leader of Plaid Cymru at Westminster.

Olympic gold medallist and world record-breaking racing cyclist, Chris Boardman.

 

 

James fucking Cleverly 

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