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Great fight, Mosley was throwing some serious bombs. I can't believe he still has the hand speed at that age.
Old is the new young in boxing, Hopkins is still awesome and what, 5/6 years older than Mosley.

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Don't have Setanta and I had no success in picking this up. I understand it was a great performance from Mosley but somewhat shrouded in controversy with Margarito being nicked for wearing illegal hand wrappings just prior to the fight but with 20,000 + people present they declined to cancel it. Can anyone confirm this and does anyone know of an available torrent?

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Don't have Setanta and I had no success in picking this up. I understand it was a great performance from Mosley but somewhat shrouded in controversy with Margarito being nicked for wearing illegal hand wrappings just prior to the fight but with 20,000 + people present they declined to cancel it. Can anyone confirm this and does anyone know of an available torrent?

 

You can watch it here....Boxing-Core.com - Boxing Videos, Boxing Gifs

 

and yes before the fight Mosleys trainer saw something illegal in the wrapping of Margaritos gloves, they're saying a plastic shell was removed and he got them rewrapped for the fight.

If this is true he should be banned for a long long time as more than likely he used it against Cotto as well, Cottos faced was in a really bad way after their fight.

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I suspect the illegal wrapping was more to protect his hands than do extra damage to his opponent.

 

Sorry mate but if the wrappings (only available to him thus unfair advantage) were to protect his hands from extra damage it also means he can hit harder. Therefore they're illegal

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Indeed. Some major question marks there. It should be called a no contest.
The Cotto seconds got the opportunity to check his hand wrappings so it doesn't automatically follow.

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The Cotto seconds got the opportunity to check his hand wrappings so it doesn't automatically follow.

 

What do you mean Cotto seconds? I know it doesn't automatically follow, but if you look at how durable Cotto had looked before that fight, and contrast it to how he performed against Margarito then it raises suspicions

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The Cotto seconds got the opportunity to check his hand wrappings so it doesn't automatically follow.

 

Brings back the spectre of the Luis Resto v Billy Collins Jr fight from the early 80's. Anybody remember it ? - absolutely tragic.

 

I believe there is a documentary being made about it at the moment.

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Brings back the spectre of the Luis Resto v Billy Collins Jr fight from the early 80's. Anybody remember it ? - absolutely tragic.

 

I believe there is a documentary being made about it at the moment.

 

That was the guy who went on to commit suicide yeah?

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What do you mean Cotto seconds? I know it doesn't automatically follow, but if you look at how durable Cotto had looked before that fight, and contrast it to how he performed against Margarito then it raises suspicions
The Seconds are the guys in Cotto's corner - the cutman, trainer and various other members of the entourage. That's why the announcer says seconds out round 4 at the beginning of the round.

 

It's part of their job to inspect the opponent to see if they have any illegal equipment before the fight.

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What do you mean Cotto seconds? I know it doesn't automatically follow, but if you look at how durable Cotto had looked before that fight, and contrast it to how he performed against Margarito then it raises suspicions
I agree and that's what I initially thought because Cotto is a very durable, strong fighter that I didn't expect to get stopped let alone lose. But if his team didn't spot items in the hand wrappings big enough to significantly alter the fight, than they are almost as culpable as Margarito's team.

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If his team didn't spot items in the hand wrappings big enough to significantly alter the fight, than they are almost as culpable as Margarito's team.

 

I think it's like a liner checking someone's studs in rugby or football. They don't really check, they just go through the motions, because they don't really expect then to have been sharpened to a point.

 

While slightly careless, I don't agree that it's negligent.

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it could have been had cotto been seriously hurt. He's been banned now as well hasn't he? If he doesn't achieve something great with his comeback fights there will be huge question marks over how he got here in the first place.

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I think it's like a liner checking someone's studs in rugby or football. They don't really check, they just go through the motions, because they don't really expect then to have been sharpened to a point.

 

While slightly careless, I don't agree that it's negligent.

Well if you are part of a boxing team that doesn't expect the opponent to try and hurt your face then, well draw your own conclusions.

 

Mosley's team noticed it in his hand wrappings before the fight, as they were supposed to do.

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Holloway Reflects on Fateful Margarito Sparring Session - Boxing News

 

Holloway Reflects on Fateful Margarito Sparring Session

By Ryan Songalia

 

Rashad Holloway is one of the many people interested in the findings that the California State Athletic Commission intend to uncover on February 10 pertaining to a "plaster-like substance" that forced trainer Javier Capetillo to re-wrap Antonio Margarito's hands shortly before his January 24 knockout loss to Shane Mosley.

 

Holloway's career was put in jeopardy during a December 19 sparring session with Margarito in Montebello, California. Both were preparing for fights; Holloway's was the following week while Margarito was gearing up to tango with Sugar Shane a month later. What started out as his final day of sparring nearly became his last day of boxing.

 

"To be honest, it happened so quick that I don't even know what happened," Holloway, 9-1 (5 KO), tells otherplace.com. "I remember he threw a wild right hand and I slipped it and he switched over to a southpaw stance and threw a left uppercut. And it landed.

 

"When it first happened, I didn't know what hit me. I've been hit 50 million times in my career, but I'd never been hit with a shot that hurt like that. It felt like a hard object hit me in the face. I thought he hit me with the palm of his hand. It wasn't like a normal punch. It didn't feel like a padded glove hit me. It was like a solid, hard impact.

 

"It felt like I had been hit with a bag of rocks."

 

Holloway suddenly called a halt to the session. The right side of his face went numb, his vision became impaired, he feared the worst. Hoping it was just a minor issue, Holloway waited two days before visiting the hospital. When he finally went to the emergency room, they confirmed that he had fractured the orbital bone on the right side of his face.

 

It wasn't until Holloway visited a specialist that he realized how serious the situation was.

 

"They told me that there was a possibility that I wouldn't be able to fight again. They said there was a possibility that it could heal wrong and that they'd have to re-break my face and put a metal plate in my face."

 

Luckily for Holloway, the injury would not be the end of the line. Holloway already has an eight-round fight scheduled for March 28 on a card in his hometown of Cincinnati that will feature former Olympians Ricardo Williams Jr. and Rau'shee Warren.

 

He says the bone is at "90-95%" strength and that the muscle is healed "as much as it's going to heal." He claims to still experience occasional numbness in his face but has already returned to sparring.

 

Last week Freddie Roach, who runs the Wild Card Gym that Holloway trains at, was a guest on Brian Kenny's ESPN radio show to discuss the Margarito hand wrap scandal. In the interview he referred to a fighter who trains at his gym that had been injured in sparring as evidence of past wrongdoing on Margarito's behalf. He was convinced that Margarito used illegal wraps in gym sessions.

 

As the interview was airing live, Holloway says that his phone was ringing off the hook. Everyone knew who Roach was referring to.

 

"To my understanding," Holloways says, "[Capetillo] tried to justify what happened by saying 'It's nothing different than what we do every single day in training, I wrap his hands up with the same stuff.' I guess he didn't see no wrong in what he was doing.

 

"I wouldn't say it was malicious...I would say it was incompetence."

 

Holloway says his relationship with Margarito is casual, professional - not intimate enough to properly gauge his ethics. Still, Holloway says this whole controversy has caught him off-guard.

 

"Boxing is boxing, there are a lot of assholes in boxing. Tony always seemed to be a good guy. There is a mutual respect, whenever we see each other we speak, we embrace. I just didn't think he was the kind of guy who would do anything like that.

 

"Some people will do anything to get ahead. People are out there juicing everyday. As a fighter, c'mon, we know if we have something in our hands. A fighter should know if his hands feel harder than normal. If you've been a pro for that long you have to take some accountability."

 

Like the rest of the world, Holloway continues to await Tuesday's hearing, which will dredge up a lot of speculation regarding Margarito's past fights and call into question Capetillo's ethics. All Holloway can do is wait. Ryan Songalia is a member of the Boxing Writers Association of America. You can contact him at songaliaboxing@aol.com .

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I know its a lot of its and buts but the fact is he was caught using an illegal wrapping on his glove and in the game of boxing that's the most dangerous thing a boxer can do. I was a fan of Marg but with all this coming out it sickens me that a pro boxer could go this low and possibly kill a guy just to get to the top.

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