Gillett and Hicks (ownership saga)

[05 Milan]

Who? The groundhogs?

 

I think you're right. Publicity-seeking rodents who make rare appearances to put out information that is less than reliable.

 

You did mean the groundhogs didn't you?

 

Now that's approaching quality of aws-proportions.

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George Gillett: "Why are Liverpool FC fans so angry with me?"

 

Feb 2 2009 EXCLUSIVE by Tony Barrett

 

George Gillett with Spirit of Shankly's Jay McKenna 320

 

Mr McKenna said: “I told him all the fans who were outside and thousands more were angry and upset at how he and Tom Hicks were running the club.

 

“He looked shocked and asked me why. I told him he knew why, because he met Spirit Of Shankly before the Manchester United game.

 

“I said ‘fans see it as you have made three promises and broken them’. So he asked me what they were.

 

“The first one was the debt on the football club. I told him his partner Tom Hicks promised it would not be like the Glazer takeover at Manchester United, and to fans that meant no debt on the club.

 

“He claimed to be unaware and asked what I meant. I told him they had bought the club and then placed the debt for buying the club onto the club.

 

“He claimed this was at the ‘request of the banks’ and they were in a ‘sound financial position’ with ‘revenue per pound or dollar in ratio to the debt’ better than at any other football club.

 

“When I asked about the extension to July, he claimed that was false and no-one else knew the true details because they were kept confidential.

 

“The second one was backing the manager and then not doing so. I said they said they would back the manager, so why had they approached Jurgen Klinsmann about the position of manager?

 

“He then went onto claim they had met with the manager, who told them he was to have discussions with ‘three other teams’ about joining them and they approached Klinsmann to have him in place to work as a ‘consultant at the club’ if Benitez left them.

 

“I asked why they had approached Klinsmann, because his pedigree was not one that immediately made fans sit up and take note.

 

“He claimed Klinsmann had a brilliant track record, and he had excellent marketing talent, having close links with those at Adidas, Nike and Reebok and the benefits of him being at Liverpool.

 

“I asked who the three clubs were, but he refused to answer.

 

“The third one was the stadium. I told Gillett the situation with the stadium angered fans, because Gillett himself had promised a spade in the ground in 60 days, and it still had not happened.

 

“He denied making this claim and said it was a ‘made-up quote by the media’and he would be interested to see such a quote.

 

“I asked why work on the stadium dragged on before they finally blamed the credit crunch for it not happening.

 

“He claimed they had spent £100m on the stadium so far and were still working with designers, architects and planners.

 

“I asked why they were spending the club’s money on this and he claimed it was coming from himself and Tom Hicks and not the club.

 

“I asked if the club’s accounts would show and support this when they are released, and he said yes. “Gillett then claimed all transfer fees to date had been met by himself and Tom.

 

“He said when they bought the club, they were told about the ‘Liverpool Way’.

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“I asked if he felt they had been true custodians as they promised. Gillett told me he ‘had tried, but it had been difficult’ and they had ‘done what they could’.

 

“I asked why he could not speak for Hicks because he was his partner.

 

“He said that ‘husband and wife can say different things but one does not get the blame’.

 

“I explained they were both responsible, and he was not happy at being blamed.

 

“I asked why he was in partnership with Hicks. He said Hicks and himself had worked together well for six years in other businesses such as food, but this is different because the media are involved.

 

“I asked, would he or Tom Hicks, or both, be selling their stakes in Liverpool. “Again, he told me he cannot speak for Tom Hicks. I asked, had there been any offers for the club, and were they currently meeting anyone about it?

 

He told me: ‘Yes, there have been expressions of interest and some negotiation’.

 

“I asked who with, and he told me he could not tell me that. I asked would he sell, and he admitted he was ‘open to it’, but he could not speak for Hicks.

 

“I then went to walk away, and he came after me saying, ‘A few weeks ago, we were in first position, then a certain individual from the club attacked another individual from another club, and, since then, we have lost form and slid down the league.’

 

“I was stunned, and asked if he was blaming Benitez as a result, and in saying that, was he not backing the manager?

 

“Rather than confirm or deny as I expected, he replied ‘that’s your implication’, before I walked away and back outside to the real world.”

 

tonybarrett@liverpoolecho.co.uk

[Guest Kenny]

Oh boy, Cheers Coops.

[ToxtethTerror]

He absolutely hates Rafa and that comes out in that interview. No wonder Rafa has sided with Hicks in this. The interesting thing from that interview is Rafa threatening the board with "3 clubs being interested and him talking to them". I'd be pissed off my manager came and said that to me.

[JohnnyH]

Fuck me. That's not good. And when Rafa hears all hell is going to break loose. Again. As per ususal after we've done something well.

[JohnnyH]

He absolutely hates Rafa and that comes out in that interview. No wonder Rafa has sided with Hicks in this. The interesting thing from that interview is Rafa threatening the board with "3 clubs being interested and him talking to them". I'd be pissed off my manager came and said that to me.

 

According to Gillett.

[emryscb]

That interview worries indeed scare me........The guy is like an ostrich with his head in the sand - nothing is his fault someone else is to blame for everything.

 

The comment about rafa is outrageous, whatever he thinks of rafa should be kept private - but to come out with that in an interview is almost unbelieveable.

 

The sooner they (yanks) fuck off the better, the clueless, lying two faced wankers.

[JagSquared]

Well...

[05 Milan]

Snake.

[ScottyT]

If the yanks are already trying to sell, why are SOS chasing them round the city and making the situation even worse?

 

Can't everyone just fuck off?

[JohnnyH]

Did I read something about the Kuwaiti lads been back at anfield yesterday?

[coop]

Did I read something about the Kuwaiti lads been back at anfield yesterday?

 

They met with Gillett in the morning and then Hicks in the afternoon and obviously went to see the match.

[andymc]

gillett is just an utter utter cunt and that interview outlines why rafa has sided with hicks

[satmann]

Everyone says Hicks is the worse one. Reading that interview and getting Gilletes personal views. This Guy comes across as being the worst one.

 

That bascombe article last week where he says he won't go until Hicks is out of the door because of the fans. Is a load of bollox. He just wants to take the most money that he can for the club. Really Glad that the protest from SOS was aimed at all on the board and not just after hicks.

 

What an evil B***** this guy totally is.

 

Looks like he has always been the snake in this.

[JohnnyH]

They met with Gillett in the morning and then Hicks in the afternoon and obviously went to see the match.

 

Just about putting a couple of quid in, or maybe about a takeover?

[JohnnyH]

Everyone says Hicks is the worse one. Reading that interview and getting Gilletes personal views. This Guy comes across as being the worst one.

 

That bascombe article last week where he says he won't go until Hicks is out of the door because of the fans. Is a load of bollox. He just wants to take the most money that he can for the club. Really Glad that the protest from SOS was aimed at all on the board and not just after hicks.

 

What an evil B***** this guy totally is.

 

Looks like he has always been the snake in this.

 

Which is the worst form of cancer? Terminal bowel, or terminal lung?

[Barrington Womble]

Everyone says Hicks is the worse one. Reading that interview and getting Gilletes personal views. This Guy comes across as being the worst one.

 

That bascombe article last week where he says he won't go until Hicks is out of the door because of the fans. Is a load of bollox. He just wants to take the most money that he can for the club. Really Glad that the protest from SOS was aimed at all on the board and not just after hicks.

 

What an evil B***** this guy totally is.

 

Looks like he has always been the snake in this.

 

So Hicks goes up in your estimation purely by not getting to speak to SoS?

 

Fuck the pair of them, they're both cunts.

[Little Sammy]

Congrats to SoS for their continued persistence in seeing the owners go for true custodians of the club. I'm proud to be a supporter of this great club.

[Unrighteous]

Both are cuntfaces. I hope they both rot in hell.

[Barrington Womble]

Is it not possible for someone's views of Gillett to go down without it automatically meaning their views on Hicks go up?

 

Gillett was by far the biggest snake in all of what went on, and in what continues to go on. Saying that doesn't forgive Hicks for what he's done.

 

But what is the most worrying, and annoying, is just how much of what we all think is fact is actually what can be traced back to Gillett.

 

People are still in with Gillett, or his puppet Parry, or his puppet Moores.

 

Where there's no evidence, people will take the word of that trio over the word of Hicks. This isn't to defend Hicks - but nobody should take anything at face value from Gillett, Parry or Moores.

 

But they do.

 

Gillett - and it could be for good reasons - wanted Rafa out. He was the one who started off that Klinsmann situation. And he's still not changed his mind about it.

 

His anger, the bit he admits to, was because Rafa had gone looking elsewhere for a job. This was at the time when Rafa was angry over Parry's wonderful work in transfer deals. This was following on from Athens and the lack of progress in the transfer market. All that shit.

 

Rafa was annoyed. Rafa looked (or said he did) for a new job. Gillett felt that was disloyal and wanted Rafa out.

 

And to this day Gillett has still not altered in that view. Because Rafa's anger was aimed in some way at Parry, Gillett is also supportive of Parry.

 

Gillett reminds me of Andy from Lou and Andy on Little Britain. He does some shitty trick, then when Lou comes back he's lying on the floor, wheelchair on its side, pretending someone's hurt him. Poor Andy. Poor George.

 

Carefully watching Gillett, and his gang, is something all of us should be doing.

 

It doesn't mean we watch them carefully INSTEAD - we just have to watch them as well.

 

They might both be cunts, they might all be cunts - but let's stop being made into cunts ourselves.

 

Simply RR, I don't see how anyone would have put one above the other in the 1st place. They are both cunts, end of. I agreed with some posters (maybe earlier in this thread or another recently), that said we need to pressure Hicks probably more than Gillett, but does that mean I rate Gillett differently? No, I just know he thinks "fuck this, I can make a tidy profit I don't need this shit or this club". Hicks on the other hand wants more profit. It doesn't make him more or less of a cunt - the 2 of them came in to make money and cared not that they could destroy the club in the process. The bit I've put in bold is the reason I despise the two of them equally, I can cope with them wanting to make a profit (in fact why else would they have become involved), it just gauls me that they don't care what state they leave us in to achieve that profit.

[Section_31]

What's the latest on this from anyone in the know? I need a fucking pick-me-up. They were at the chav match weren't they?

 

All the team and manager talk is interesting but essentially pointless until this is resolved really.

[Roy Hobbs]

Simply RR, I don't see how anyone would have put one above the other in the 1st place. They are both cunts, end of. I agreed with some posters (maybe earlier in this thread or another recently), that said we need to pressure Hicks probably more than Gillett, but does that mean I rate Gillett differently? No, I just know he thinks "fuck this, I can make a tidy profit I don't need this shit or this club". Hicks on the other hand wants more profit. It doesn't make him more or less of a cunt - the 2 of them came in to make money and cared not that they could destroy the club in the process. The bit I've put in bold is the reason I despise the two of them equally, I can cope with them wanting to make a profit (in fact why else would they have become involved), it just gauls me that they don't care what state they leave us in to achieve that profit.

 

Great post. The one before it was good also.

[Guest Kenny]

All gone quiet on this, considering they were both here to talk about issues, still no news on Rafa`s contract, no news on Aggers contract. What a fuckin joke G&H are.

[Barrington Womble]

All gone quiet on this, considering they were both here to talk about issues, still no news on Rafa`s contract, no news on Aggers contract. What a fuckin joke G&H are.

 

Where Rafa is concerned, I'd sooner it was quiet than Rafa was in the press saying talks had broken down again. To be honest, I don't see anything happen while G&H are trying to flog the club or not flog it depending on which way the wind is blowing. Parry is going nowhere while Gillett is here and I suspect Rafa won;t be signing anything while Parry is still here. The whole fucking thing is a joke.