Selling Kuyt

[Crazyhorse7778]

I'd bring in Robben for Engelaar and drop VDV into a deeper position alongside De Jong, what Van Basten did at half time.

 

Kuyt has brought a nice balance to the team, it would be a mistake to change that in my opinion.

[Thants]

Dirk provides the security and goals to be able to play on the break for the quicker players. Thats why he's so valuable and why he starts.

[RedKnight]

. Netherlands.

[WaltonRed]

Not getting in to the Dirk arguement because I'm his biggest fan and you all know how I feel about him but Holland are just ace.

 

I hate Robben but he's some player, put him in our XI and we'd win the league I honestly believe that.

 

And on a side note Khalid Boulahrouz seems to be showing why he was a decent player before Chelsea ruined him.

[George Costanza]

Cuffed for Dirk but he didn't have the best of games.

 

I fucking hate Robben but if he remains injury free he's a good as Ronaldo IMO

[Hazel Motes]

Dirk hardly missed a challenge or a pass this game. Excellent. close this heresy of thread right now!

[Guest TK-421]

It's interesting to see how the dynamics of the team changed a bit when Dirk went off. He was fucking excellent with his tireless work rate, but he doesn't have the ability to beat players with pace like Robben and Van Persie do, and I think you can see the difference.

 

Please, please do not jump on me and start a fucking war, it's a valid point. Dirk is a different type of player to the likes of Robben and Van Persie and I think this game in the second half has encapsulated the point that people make when they advocate the signing of attacking wide players.

 

No war here Brownie, only I would say that bringing van Persie on suited the circumstances of the game. As a Kuyt fan I was scratching my head but credit to Van Basten as it proved to be exactly the right thing to do. Holland have an embarrassment of riches up front and it will be no shame if Kuyt is on the bench for the next game.

[Newport]

Selling Dirk would be complete madness. I think Rafa loves the way he works for the team and he is just the type of player Rafa wants. Getting better by every game ever since he started scoring again in February.

[Brownie]

No war here Brownie, only I would say that bringing van Persie on suited the circumstances of the game. As a Kuyt fan I was scratching my head but credit to Van Basten as it proved to be exactly the right thing to do. Holland have an embarrassment of riches up front and it will be no shame if Kuyt is on the bench for the next game.

 

I agree that it suited the game. The only point i'm making is that when people such as myself say that we need someone better than Kuyt on the right, it's examples such as tonight which help to illustrate what is meant.

 

Kuyt has some fine attributes and can do things that other players can't, such as work his bollocks off for 90 minutes, however he doesn't possess the ability to run past players like Robben and Van Persie do.

 

The game just changed in an instant once those subs were made because France suddenly couldn't stay on the front foot because they were being destroyed going the other way. I think we need someone who has the quality that the likes of Robben and Van Persie have, I think it would improve us dramatically.

 

To an extent we have that in Babel, but he's not yet at that level.

[Faustus]

I agree that it suited the game. The only point i'm making is that when people such as myself say that we need someone better than Kuyt on the right, it's examples such as tonight which help to illustrate what is meant.

 

Kuyt has some fine attributes and can do things that other players can't, such as work his bollocks off for 90 minutes, however he doesn't possess the ability to run past players like Robben and Van Persie do.

 

The game just changed in an instant once those subs were made because France suddenly couldn't stay on the front foot because they were being destroyed going the other way. I think we need someone who has the quality that the likes of Robben and Van Persie have, I think it would improve us dramatically.

 

To an extent we have that in Babel, but he's not yet at that level.

 

Totally agree, mate.

 

I love Dirk and still believe he has a part to play next season but I honestly think that a genuine world class presence in his position would turn us into title challengers.

 

I don't mean that as a slur on Dirk at all as he can still easily do a job, but we need somebody of world class ability there.

[Guest TK-421]

I agree that it suited the game. The only point i'm making is that when people such as myself say that we need someone better than Kuyt on the right, it's examples such as tonight which help to illustrate what is meant.

 

You say better, I say different. They both scored one goal in the event.

 

Kuyt has some fine attributes and can do things that other players can't,such as work his bollocks off for 90 minutes, however he doesn't possess the ability to run past players like Robben and Van Persie do.

 

I totally concede this point, although I do think Kuyt can beat a player as he put Ashley Cole on his arse and should have had the little bastard booked in the CL. He got the better of Zambrotta too, but overall I can't argue that Kuyt is more skilful than van Persie because he isn't.

 

To an extent we have that in Babel, but he's not yet at that level.

 

That I agree with, that's why I put David Villa in place of Babel in that team line up in the other thread. But then Babel is also a good option to have for the first sub and to start games, I'm glad Rafa gave Babel a lot of games this season as it should serve him well for the future, that his how players like Cristiano Ronaldo and Pires have flourished in the English game, just my opinion.

 

You need balance in the team, for example Park often gets a game for Man Utd because he works extremely hard and also supports the forwards. If you have too many creative players you might lose something defensively, it depends on the circumstances of the game I guess.

[Faustus]

If you dont mind me gegging in on this convo, Tokyo Police Club are ace, Your English is good is an ace tune.

 

Agree.

 

Tokyo Police Club are ace WR. They were class at Glasto last year in the Joh Peel tent.

[Brownie]

Agree.

 

Tokyo Police Club are ace WR. They were class at Glasto last year in the Joh Peel tent.

 

Good man, i'm loving them at the moment.

[Brownie]

You say better, I say different. They both scored one goal in the event.

 

 

 

I totally concede this point, although I do think Kuyt can beat a player as he put Ashley Cole on his arse and should have had the little bastard booked in the CL. He got the better of Zambrotta too, but overall I can't argue that Kuyt is more skilful than van Persie because he isn't.

 

 

 

That I agree with, that's why I put David Villa in place of Babel in that team line up in the other thread. But then Babel is also a good option to have for the first sub and to start games, I'm glad Rafa gave Babel a lot of games this season as it should serve him well for the future, that his how players like Cristiano Ronaldo and Pires have flourished in the English game, just my opinion.

 

You need balance in the team, for example Park often gets a game for Man Utd because he works extremely hard and also supports the forwards. If you have too many creative players you might lose something defensively, it depends on the circumstances of the game I guess.

 

If we did bring someone in and Kuyt was then seen as second choice, he would still have a major part to play still. He's a cracking player to have in the squad because he's reliable and will always give you a performance.

 

In those games though where were are drawing at home, he isn't necessarily the man who will break the deadlock.

[TheHitman]

It's interesting to see how the dynamics of the team changed a bit when Dirk went off. He was fucking excellent with his tireless work rate, but he doesn't have the ability to beat players with pace like Robben and Van Persie do, and I think you can see the difference.

 

Please, please do not jump on me and start a fucking war, it's a valid point. Dirk is a different type of player to the likes of Robben and Van Persie and I think this game in the second half has encapsulated the point that people make when they advocate the signing of attacking wide players.

 

Its a valid point and the contributions of Robben and vanpersie were massive however it could be argued it's not a true reflection as both players were up against tired legs. Think about Babel compared to starting and coming on after 60mins of his effect on a match.

 

Also Evra this season has been world class and has been a major factor in Uniteds attacking play down the left the tracking back by Kuyt and his movement limited Evras attacking play in my view and that nullified their attacking threat down the left to some extent. It was a real team effort..

[Guest TK-421]

 

In those games though where were are drawing at home, he isn't necessarily the man who will break the deadlock.

 

Not necessarily, but it's not beyond him i.e Inter Milan and today after nine minutes. Anyway we'll end up going around in circles, I don't think he's the best player in the world but I'm a big fan, and it's fair to say I rate him more than you do. I want us to bring someone in this summer to give Kuyt and Babel some competition, plus David Villa. That's all I ask for!

[Creator Supreme]

Well here we are again. Its not enough that the lad finished the season as one of our most in form players but also played in a new roll.

 

Did he spit the dummy out and sulk?

Did he show any less desire playing in the new roll?

 

No he accepted what his manager asked him to do. Why.

 

Because he's a true professional who plays for the team and not just his own ego.

A player who also seems to relate to the people who pay his wages. Us.

 

Ive said it before and will say it again.

 

SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT REALISE HOW VALUABLE A PLAYER HE IS UNTILL HES OUT OF THE SIDE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME.

 

What with the way football has gone these days and also the shit our club has been through the last year I need good reasons for me to shell out the price of my season ticket.

 

Let me tell you now Dirk is one of the reasons I renewed it. A very good hard working honest footballer.

 

Somebody asked what if Rafa wanted to sell. Would not change my opinion one bit.

 

I also love Dirk. Long live the Ox.

 

 

Oi, why did you neg me for worst post so far? What, because I can see how shite he is and you can't, have some fucking neggage back!!