The cunting Daily Mail thread.

[Anubis]

An extract from Toby Khan Noonian Singh Young's essay on 'progressive' eugenics. I don't think I really need to comment.

 

 

Progressive eugenics

 

But that isn’t the solution I want to explore here. I’m more interested in the potential of a technology that hasn’t been invented yet: genetically engineered intelligence.[22] As with so many of the ideas explored in this article, this crops up in my father’s book, where it takes the form of “controlled mutations in the genetic constitution of the unborn … induced by radiation so as to raise the level of intelligence”. This technology is still in its infancy in 2033, with successful experiments only carried out on “the lower animals”, but another version of it may be available sooner in the real world—within the next five or ten years, if the scientists are to be believed.

 

I’m thinking in particular of the work being done by Stephen Hsu, Vice-President for Research and Professor of Theoretical Physics at Michigan State University. He is a founder of BGI’s Cognitive Genomics Lab. BGI, China’s top bio-tech institute, is working to discover the genetic basis for IQ. Hsu and his collaborators are studying the genomes of thousands of highly intelligent people in pursuit of some of the perhaps 10,000 genetic variants affecting IQ. Hsu believes that within ten years machine learning applied to large genomic datasets will make it possible for parents to screen embryos in vitro and select the most intelligent one to implant.[23] Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist at New York University, describes how the process would work:

 

Any given couple could potentially have several eggs fertilized in the lab with the dad’s sperm and the mom’s eggs. Then you can test multiple embryos and analyze which one’s going to be the smartest. That kid would belong to that couple as if they had it naturally, but it would be the smartest a couple would be able to produce if they had 100 kids. It’s not genetic engineering or adding new genes, it’s the genes that couples already have.

 

It’s worth repeating this last point, because it deals with one of the main reservations people will have about this procedure: these couples wouldn’t be creating a super-human in a laboratory, but choosing the smartest child from the range of all the possible children they could have. Nevertheless, this could have a decisive impact. “This might mean the difference between a child who struggles in school, and one who is able to complete a good university degree,” says Hsu.[24]

 

My proposal is this: once this technology becomes available, why not offer it free of charge to parents on low incomes with below-average IQs? Provided there is sufficient take-up, it could help to address the problem of flat-lining inter-generational social mobility and serve as a counterweight to the tendency for the meritocratic elite to become a hereditary elite. It might make all the difference when it comes to the long-term sustainability of advanced meritocratic societies.

 

At first glance, this sounds like something Jonathan Swift might suggest and, of course, there are lots of ethical issues connected with “designer babies”. But is it so different from screening embryos in vitro so parents with hereditary diseases can avoid having a child with the same condition? (This is known as a pre-implantation genetic diagnosis.) I don’t mean that a low IQ is comparable to a genetic disorder like Huntington’s, but if you allow parents to choose which embryo to take to term, whatever the reason, you’ve already crossed the Rubicon. And screening out embryos with certain undesirable genes is legal in plenty of countries, including Britain.

 

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2015/09/fall-meritocracy/

[Jairzinho]

I knew he was a cunt but I didn't know he was this much of a cunt.

[Anubis]

And here's Toby on inclusivity at schools. No kids in wheelchairs, thanks. Doesn't look good on the school photo.

 

 

Inclusive. It’s one of those ghastly, politically correct words that have survived the demise of New Labour. Schools have got to be “inclusive” these days. That means wheelchair ramps, the complete works of Alice Walker in the school library (though no Mark Twain) and a Special Educational Needs Department that can cope with everything from Dyslexia to Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. If Gove is serious about wanting to bring back O-levels the government will have to repeal the Equality Act because any exam that isn’t “accessible” to a functionally illiterate troglodyte with a mental age of six will be judged to be “elitist” and therefore forbidden by Harman’s Law. (See note at foot of this column.)

 

http://www.nosacredcows.co.uk/blog/2026/my_latest_spectator_column.html

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Subhuman springs to mind, although his views would no doubt change if he was personally affected. People like him is why this world is shit. 

[Priory Doctor]

And here's Toby on inclusivity at schools. No kids in wheelchairs, thanks. Doesn't look good on the school photo.

 

 

 

 

http://www.nosacredcows.co.uk/blog/2026/my_latest_spectator_column.html

The same Toby Young who ,apparently "accidentally" got invited to  Brasenose College ,Oxford after failing his exams . Nothing to do with being the son of a Peer.

Mind you, to be fair,the same thing happened to a load of my mates who accidentally got accepted at top Oxford Colleges after failing their O Levels...NOT

One odious twat, that feller. 

[Em City]

A short, fat, bespectacled ugly bastard talking about engineering superior beings...I've seen it all now.

[A Red]

A short, fat, bespectacled ugly bastard talking about engineering superior beings...I've seen it all now.

Himmler

[Em City]

Himmler

That's well out of order.

 

Himmler might have been a bit of a prick, but comparing him to Toby Young is going too far.

[Rico1304]

How do people like this get away with it? In a civilised society they'd be dragged into the gulag and given a 50-year sentence.

Not a hint of irony here.

 

Young is a cunt though.

[Hades]

Not a hint of irony here.

 

Young is a cunt though.

Shut your fucking mouth you disabled killing, lying, fuckwit.

[stringvest]

Shut your fucking mouth you disabled killing, lying, fuckwit.

 

 

he only kills the mouthy ones.  So be careful.

[Stickman]

Very good by Mark Steel taking the piss out of Young

 

 

Of course Toby Young understands what life is like on benefits – he knows what ‘rings true’

 

 

I’ve never reviewed a film and I’ve not seen it yet, so I’m highly qualified to tell you how miserable Ken Loach’s latest offering is...

 

There’s a trick we play on ourselves in which we pretend that people who are struggling are fine really, so we shouldn’t feel too bad. Experts at this game will pass a beggar and say “I wouldn’t worry, he’s got a castle round the corner. I think he’s the Viscount of Northumberland.” If they pass one with no legs they’ll say: “He’s got loads of legs at home. He’s half crab. Don’t fall for that old trick.”

It’s exciting when someone takes this art to a new level, and the columnist/bloke-who-pops-up-on-telly Toby Young has put in a magnificent effort in the Daily Mail with a review of the Ken Loach film I, Daniel Blake. 

 

This is a story of a man who had a heart attack but is denied disability benefit, and was made following studies of hundreds of cases. But Young isn’t intimidated by that. He derides it as inaccurate liberal nonsense, because “the two protagonists are a far cry from the scroungers on Channel 4’s Benefits Street.”

 

Exactly. It’s the same reason we shouldn’t take any notice of David Attenborough, with his misleading films about orangutans; the ones he shows are a far cry from the ones in The Jungle Book that want to kidnap a child and learn to make fire.

He outlined his qualifications even further by saying, “I’m no expert but several aspects of I, Daniel Blake, don’t ring true.” This is why he’s quite reasonably become a spokesperson for Conservative ideas: he accepts he knows nothing about what happens on welfare, but isn’t afraid to insist he knows more about it than someone who spends their whole life in it, because he thought “that doesn’t ring true” while looking out of the window.

 

There should be a programme called “Toby Young Rings True”, in which, to get to the truth, he ignores people who’ve done things. “Tonight I’ll be talking about sailing round the world while telling Ellen MacArthur she’s full of shit, as she’s only done it a couple of times, whereas I thought about it once while having a shave. Next week I’ll be telling Dizzee Rascal and Raheem Sterling what it’s like to be black in modern Britain.”

 

He goes on to complain the film is “unremittingly depressing”, which is a shame because job centres are usually known for pastel shades and sing-alongs, where claimants gather round the piano for a medley of Madness’s greatest hits, and anyone who’s a bit puffed out after “Baggy Trousers” is given a mobility scooter.

 

So Loach should have made a feel-good film about a man rejected for disability benefit, in which he falls in love with his dialysis machine and the two of them go and live by the seaside renting out canoes and never sponging off the taxpayer again.

Even so, reviewer Mark Kermode said the film has as many laughs in the opening scene as some comedies do throughout – but he’s the country’s foremost film reviewer, so don’t take any notice of him. I’ve never reviewed a film and not seen it yet, so I’m more qualified to say how miserable it is.

 

Young complains: “Would a middle-aged man who’s just had a massive heart attack really be declared ‘fit for work’?” He could, if he wanted to spoil his credentials as not being an expert, look up cases such as that of Paul Turner, who was found fit for work after a massive heart attack and died a month later. But although that’s a true story, it must be made up if it doesn’t ring true.

 

In fact, there are 2,400 cases of people who have died in the year after being declared fit for work, which shows how fair these tests are, because there are plenty of jobs for corpses. They can act as speed bumps in built-up areas or serve as maypoles in village fairs, but instead they choose to rot away at the taxpayer’s expense

The company that carried out the tests, Atos, were despised by the disabled, but that’s because these claimants took notice of their own reality rather than what a Conservative commentator thought rang true, which just goes to show it’s the left that makes people miserable. 

One woman told me she was terrified one weekend because the postman left a note saying she had a recorded delivery letter and she knew the notice informing people their benefits had been stopped always came by recorded delivery. But now I’ve read Toby Young’s analysis based on watching Benefits Street, it’s clear this woman was making it up. How could I have been so easily fooled?

 

The film, he grumbles is “absurdly romantic” because the main character – despite being on benefits – is “never seen drinking, smoking or gambling”. That’s the problem with politically correct portrayals of the working class, they don’t show the reality of them drinking foaming beer while singing sea shanties and screaming “woooooor” at a buxom wench while exchanging their kids for a scratch card.

The puzzling side to all this is that Toby Young set up his own school, but for some reason found it more difficult than he expected. You would have thought his project would be a huge success, especially with history teachers who say: “Today we’re learning about the Battle of Britain. There’s a book here with first-hand accounts of flying a Spitfire – so ignore that, as these idiots were actually there so their account doesn’t ring true. They’re a far cry from the realistic cartoon strip called ‘Kapow, take that Fritz’ I read in a comic’.”

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ken-loach-i-daniel-blake-toby-young-life-on-benefits-rings-true-mark-steel-a7383461.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Hades]

Haha a neg from lifetime sex pest, probably cuts a bit close to home. Bet he secretly despises the vulnerable people he works with. 

[lifetime fan]

Haha a neg from lifetime sex pest, probably cuts a bit close to home. Bet he secretly despises the vulnerable people he works with.

Yeah.

 

I hate them.

 

Would never whistleblow and risk my career to try and prevent abuse.

 

Proper cunt me.

[Hades]

Yeah.

 

I hate them.

 

Would never whistleblow and risk my career to try and prevent abuse.

 

Proper cunt me.

 

Fair play, but your support of disabled killer rico lets you down. 

[moof]

Fair play, but your support of disabled killer rico lets you down.

Behave, you melt.

[Hades]

Behave, you melt.

 

You behave you cock for prioritising politeness over the deaths and misery of the poor and disabled. 

[stringvest]

You behave you cock for prioritising politeness over the deaths and misery of the poor and disabled. 

 

 

Hades, you're being really persistently stupid and it's making you inordinately angry here.  You need to do something - spiritual, psychological, physical or chemical, to stop you being such a stupid angry cunt. 

[Hades]

Hades, you're being really persistently stupid and it's making you inordinately angry here.  You need to do something - spiritual, psychological, physical or chemical, to stop you being such a stupid angry cunt. 

 

If you're not angry, you're not paying attention you bourgeois white arsehole.

[stringvest]

If you're not angry, you're not paying attention you bourgeois white arsehole.

 

 

I nearly choked on my Duchy of Cornwall water biscuit then you heartless twerp.

[stringvest]

Anyway, I'm popping round to the pub now for a beer with the other Daily Mail tories.  x

[A Red]

You behave you cock for prioritising politeness over the deaths and misery of the poor and disabled. 

I think you can be a better person than this. Please try.

[Remmie]

As said on the other thread, please stop linking posts to the Daily Heil; any clicks they win

[magicrat]

I now hate the Express as much as the Mail,

A side effect of Brexit

[Rico1304]

Anyway, I'm popping round to the pub now for a beer with the other Daily Mail tories. x

You knocked over one of my peacocks in the car park.