Star Trek - The Shit, or Just Shit?

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Yeah not sure what to make of it to be honest, they seem to be going a bit 'Marvel Universe' with the whole thing but I'm not complaining at this stage. That being said, I don't think Yeoh is that good an actress in all honesty. Not sure she can carry the series alone, although Alan Van Sprang might be able to if he's involved. 

 

Trek needs Isaacs back! 

I suspect her (honestly, quite excellent) martial arts abilities are going to be put to good use. I’m not a huge fan of her acting (in English, anyway) but her physical abilities are amazing. I guess we will see what comes of it. More Trek though, can’t complain. 

[Anubis]

Philistines. I loves TOS. But then I love TNG and DS9 as well. In the Pale Moonlight in Season 6 of DS9, to my mind, is one of the most brilliant episodes they ever made. They'd have never gotten away with it if Roddenberry was still alive, but I'm not going to say any more about it because I want NV to discover it for himself.

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Philistines. I loves TOS. But then I love TNG and DS9 as well. In the Pale Moonlight in Season 6 of DS9, to my mind, is one of the most brilliant episodes they ever made. They'd have never gotten away with it if Roddenberry was still alive, but I'm not going to say any more about it because I want NV to discover it for himself.

Nice one. I finished Enterprise the other day, I really liked the show. I’ve moved on to Voyager. DS9 is after that. 

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Philistines. I loves TOS. But then I love TNG and DS9 as well. In the Pale Moonlight in Season 6 of DS9, to my mind, is one of the most brilliant episodes they ever made. They'd have never gotten away with it if Roddenberry was still alive, but I'm not going to say any more about it because I want NV to discover it for himself.

Yep, an incredible episode.

 

William Saddler's Sloan character in the section 31 episodes is brilliant too. 

 

"It's an honour to know you doctor. The federation needs men like you. Men of principle, men of character....men who can sleep at night. 

But you're also the reason section 31 exists. Someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong."

[Scooby Dudek]

I never got around to watching the last few seasons of DS9. 

I keep trying to start it again but the first few episodes put me off. Is it possible to join a few seasons in and not miss any of the overall arc ? Or would I be required to watch all 7 to get the full effect ?

 

Cheers

[niallers]

34 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

I never got around to watching the last few seasons of DS9. 

I keep trying to start it again but the first few episodes put me off. Is it possible to join a few seasons in and not miss any of the overall arc ? Or would I be required to watch all 7 to get the full effect ?

 

Cheers

There's a few stand alone episodes but nearly all of them are involved in the main arc of they story, even if it's a 5 min scene somewhere. 

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, Scooby Dudek said:

I never got around to watching the last few seasons of DS9. 

I keep trying to start it again but the first few episodes put me off. Is it possible to join a few seasons in and not miss any of the overall arc ? Or would I be required to watch all 7 to get the full effect ?

 

Cheers

Nah you'll be fine watching from the end of season 5 onwards. The arc stuff starts in the first few episodes of six.

 

I would recommend watching season three onwards though where they get their own ship  - the defiant - and seson 4 is where Worf joins the cast. They're great seasons.

 

The dominion are the ongoing foe from season three onwards and are fucking boss.

 

Season one and two are shite, one especially. 

[Scooby Dudek]

Cheers. 

 

I have just watched both episodes of Chain of Command. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Watched the Short Treks yet, Secsh?

[Section_31]

28 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Watched the Short Treks yet, Secsh?

Nah mate I genuinely haven't had the chance yet, deffo gonna clear me schedule soon!

[skend04]

Apparently the shorts are on Netflix but need a degree to find them.

 

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/on-demand/2019-01-17/star-trek-shorts-netflix-how-to-find/

[Numero Veinticinco]

New season starts today. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

New season starts today. 

And fucking excellent it was too. 

[skend04]

Just been added to Netflix. One for later this evening.

[Numero Veinticinco]

22 hours ago, skend04 said:

Just been added to Netflix. One for later this evening.

What’s the verdict? 

[Hand Shandy]

First episode was decent enough, and there's clearly a lot of scene setting going on.

 

There has also been quite a tonal shift, with attempts to bring in more humour. Not sure how I feel about that at the moment - I liked the darker tone - but I suppose it's only ep 1...

[Numero Veinticinco]

I liked the darker tone too, and there still is some of that, but the Star Trek fanboys were pissed at it. 

 

I loved Pike. ‘Where’s my red thing’. 

[skend04]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

What’s the verdict? 

I enjoyed it but hope it doesn't get too soapy. Michael and Spock getting freaky does seems to have been hinted at. Did note the lighter tone but it's only expected as they aren't at war with the Klingons. It's a damn good looking show too. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

13 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I enjoyed it but hope it doesn't get too soapy. Michael and Spock getting freaky does seems to have been hinted at. Did note the lighter tone but it's only expected as they aren't at war with the Klingons. It's a damn good looking show too. 

Yeah, I think it struck a good balance between action and drama. Looks amazing, as well a new SciFi should. 

[Leyton388]

Love TOS and TNG. Voyager was also quality but I never to round to DS9 and u also enjoyed Enterprise.

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, Hand Shandy said:

First episode was decent enough, and there's clearly a lot of scene setting going on.

 

There has also been quite a tonal shift, with attempts to bring in more humour. Not sure how I feel about that at the moment - I liked the darker tone - but I suppose it's only ep 1...

Yeah that's my view on it. It was a solid enough start but as with all arc based shows the early ones are always about setting things up.

 

I really like Pike and the new engineer though, I thought Amanda was great too. 

 

I think this seson will be walking a fine line as it's trying to introduce more Marvel style humour (which IMO backfired massively in the truly appalling The Last Jedi). It clearly wants to introduce more of the Abrams style action feel but needs to retain its depth, as that is in the end what differentiates it from other space shows. 

 

I thought the last season did that well. (The Terrans for example were clearly supposed to be Republicans!)

 

Also NV I've watched the shorts now and thought they were excellent, especially Calypso, very Balck Mirror-esque!

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Yeah that's my view on it. It was a solid enough start but as with all arc based shows the early ones are always about setting things up.

 

I really like Pike and the new engineer though, I thought Amanda was great too. 

 

I think this seson will be walking a fine line as it's trying to introduce more Marvel style humour (which IMO backfired massively in the truly appalling The Last Jedi). It clearly wants to introduce more of the Abrams style action feel but needs to retain its depth, as that is in the end what differentiates it from other space shows. 

 

I thought the last season did that well. (The Terrans for example were clearly supposed to be Republicans!)

 

Also NV I've watched the shorts now and thought they were excellent, especially Calypso, very Balck Mirror-esque!

Yeah, Calypso was my favourite too. 

[Alan Sex]

They have certainly made Pike very TOS Kirk. 

 

I like it. As long as it doesn’t get too action-y. 

[Section_31]

8 hours ago, Alan Sex said:

They have certainly made Pike very TOS Kirk. 

 

I like it. As long as it doesn’t get too action-y. 

Do you reckon? 

 

When you look back at Kirk he was actually pretty morose and reserved. It was the Abrams films that sort of redrew him as this womanising, 'flawed' all American action hero. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Well, I mean, Kirk was Pike-ish. Not the other way around! Also, in TOS Kirk deffo was a womaniser. I think it was 19 different women his banged in three seasons.