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This Carra/Luton thing...


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I hope we embarrass these cunts at Anfield now, the cheeky begging twats. With Southern clubs, it's always been "Feed the scousers, let them know it's Christmas time." or "You're only happy on giro day." It's the opposite with Luton now, seeing they were playing us in the FA cup and come begging with cap in hand, the horrible, scruffy, corrupt bastards.

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Amazes me some people think footballers are robots to be honest Carra was doing the right thing spitting and chucking beer when he's with a kid is bang out of order. Although if it was Pennant i think their may have been an even more negative reaction by some fans and the media.

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i saw that arsewipe from talksport on the paper review this morning on sky John Gaunt i think his name is, he called Carra a bottler for not playing for england,he also said if Carra had shown as much passion during the game liverpool might have won ,to give him his due fatboy Holmes pulled him up on it.

 

That argument really fucks me off.

 

Some dickhead was spouting the same shit in the pub when Carra retired from international football. I asked him if Paul Scholes was a bottler as well and it soon shut the prick up.

 

With regards to Luton, I hope we get another Besiktas scoreline against them.

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It’s a funny old game, but not when banter turns into bile

Tony Cascarino:

 

I have huge sympathy for Jamie Carragher, not because I’m an ex-footballer but because I’m a human being. Apparently it’s OK for fans to behave like animals, but players are not allowed to respond like humans - by reacting with anger when they are treated like scum.

 

If a player steps slightly out of line he’s criticised, yet in every game fans get away with far worse. At Luton on Sunday, fans provoked an angry response from the Liverpool player when they threw drink at him after the game. Don’t the crowd have a responsibility for football’s image, too? Five years ago, I was watching a game in London with my son and I asked a bloke next to me to tone his language down for my son’s sake. The guy declined: “Don’t f***ing bring him to football then, you stupid p***k,” he said.

 

I began to boil. “Shall I nut him on the bridge of his nose?” I asked myself. It was very tempting. But I didn’t want to risk losing my job, being arrested. So I shut my mouth, let him get away with it. Great, my son’s seen me back down in front of a bully. Afterwards, in the car, I trotted out that old cliché: “You’ve got to turn the other cheek.” But like most of us, I can’t always follow that rule. Sometimes I crack, regardless of what I might lose. I had nine red cards in 19 years as a professional, which sums it up – every now and again, for whatever reason, I snapped and reacted to something that on another day I would have just ignored.

 

Carragher seems to be built the same way. He was so wound up by a pundit’s unfair criticism about his retirement from the England team that he called up the radio station and had an on-air argument. In 2002, he was sent off at Highbury and warned by the police for hurling a coin that was chucked at him back into the crowd. We all know it’s not right, but I can’t condemn him for the instinctive response of a passionate, fully committed professional who is reacting to just a fraction of the abuse he, like any player, has taken over the course of his career.

 

Yes, the incident was after the game, not in the heat of battle, but when you’re warming down you’re often drained and irritable, especially if the match went badly.

 

When Eric Cantona steamed into the crowd at Selhurst Park in 1995 there were a lot of players who thought: good on you, mate. We wish we were as brave as you. Crowds – and not just in football – get away with disgusting behaviour. For some fans, abusing players is a sort of verbal masturbation, their weekly session to release all their pent-up frustration.

 

At Millwall, where I played in the 1980s, fans would roll up paper balls so tightly they were like little bullets and launch them at opposition players. One supporter at Stamford Bridge screamed at me every time I jogged down the touchline. “Got a problem?” I asked. “Yeah, you’re s***,” he said. “Mate, if you’ve got a problem, see me outside afterwards,” I replied. I wanted a confrontation, not a fight. He didn’t show.

 

Fans have thrown the ball at my face, spat at me. On a visit to Doncaster Rovers with Gillingham, a hot pie hit me in the stomach during the warm-up (and no, I didn’t trap it).

 

Loads of times I’ve taken stick and it’s been funny, but too many don’t know where to draw the line. Banter is one thing, hardcore pornographic chants about your wife, or calling people paedophiles, another. The media often underplay just how mind-bogglingly disgusting the behaviour can be. It’s scandalous, it’s inhumane.

 

So let’s not weigh into Carragher. Instead we should encourage the authorities to stamp out uncivilised behaviour in the stands.

 

It needs to be seen as totally unacceptable, like racist abuse. Stop the problem at source and there won’t be these type of reactions from decent men who are pushed too far

 

It’s a funny old game, but not when banter turns into bile - Times Online

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I have to admit I was expecting them to have done something worthy of a reaction.

 

It's a pathetic thing those Luton knobs did, but it's hardly worth going after someone for.

 

I think Carra needs to "calm down" generally (on the pitch wise, no idea what he does in his private life).

 

WTF are u on mate? Apart from spitting and throwing ale at him they also abused his mam. He shoulda knocked fuck out of them.

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Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves, it was 5 dickheads out of 10,000+ Luton Fans who spoilt it, does that little 7 or 8 year old who asked Carra for his autograph deserve there club to be extinct?

 

Thought not, Luton are no worse or better than any of the clubs around them, they have their dickheads, like we have our dickheads,

 

Yes Carra was right

Yes the 5/10,000 Luton fans where wrong

But to call for them to be extinct/blown up is wrong I think.

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Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves, it was 5 dickheads out of 10,000+ Luton Fans who spoilt it, does that little 7 or 8 year old who asked Carra for his autograph deserve there club to be extinct?

 

Thought not, Luton are no worse or better than any of the clubs around them, they have their dickheads, like we have our dickheads,

 

Yes Carra was right

Yes the 5/10,000 Luton fans where wrong

But to call for them to be extinct/blown up is wrong I think.

 

I agree really but the decision by Luton to go public about the gate money left another bitter taste. They could always go and watch MK Dons, they're on the up.

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It's funny, because when an ex-player/journalist writes something nice about us, it's usually followed by a lot of praise just because it was a pro-Liverpool piece.

 

In this case though, I have to admit that I genuinely do like Cascarino. It's not just because of this piece or other pro-Liverpool pieces he's written but it's due mainly to the fact that he has his own opinion and isn't easily influenced by others' views.

 

Agree with him or not, you know that what he writes is what he's thinking deep down and that's a rarity in modern journalism. It's strange because he was a bit of an alehouse player himself but he has some very good tactical knowledge and seems to embrace the finer things of the game.

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It's funny, because when an ex-player/journalist writes something nice about us, it's usually followed by a lot of praise just because it was a pro-Liverpool piece.

 

In this case though, I have to admit that I genuinely do like Cascarino. It's not just because of this piece or other pro-Liverpool pieces he's written but it's due mainly to the fact that he has his own opinion and isn't easily influenced by others' views.

 

Agree with him or not, you know that what he writes is what he's thinking deep down and that's a rarity in modern journalism. It's strange because he was a bit of an alehouse player himself but he has some very good tactical knowledge and seems to embrace the finer things of the game.

 

Don't think it's strange at all, players with less talent have to think about the game just that little bit more.

 

You only need to look at the ex-players who tend to succeed as managers, in the main, its the ones who never made it to the top who are more succesful, obviously there are exceptions (Rijkaard is one) but generally, I think the above is true.

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