Gordon Brown-Labour

[Hermes]

Why vote for him/them.

 

Just vote for the man/party who suggested their ideas and actually believe in them.

 

Phoney Blair stole all the Conservative policies, now the man following in his footsteps is continuing the tradition.

[Section_31]

Why vote for him/them.

 

Just vote for the man/party who suggested their ideas and actually believe in them.

 

Phoney Blair stole all the Conservative policies, now the man following in his footsteps is continuing the tradition.

 

I thinks it's funny as fuck personally, how are the Tories ever going to find a way in if everytime they open their mouths Labour do it anyway?

 

Cameron and chums have been reduced to an etonian 'think tank' without even knowing it and it makes me chuckle.

 

Besides they're all the fucking same anyway, all staffed by the same new-wave of student-union spawn who have no grasp of anything tangiable or real, they all think in large sweeping abstract form and that's why the country is - and will continue to be - fucked up in so many ways.

[Owen]

The Tories will get in soon enough, S31, as the country's infrastructure continues to fall apart.

[Plewggs]

Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard has proved he really is a true Blue by declaring his allegiance to the Tory party. After meeting party leader David Cameron, Lampard said: "I had a good chat with him and I really like him." Todays Torygraph

[moxter]

I thinks it's funny as fuck personally, how are the Tories ever going to find a way in if everytime they open their mouths Labour do it anyway?

 

Cameron and chums have been reduced to an etonian 'think tank' without even knowing it and it makes me chuckle.

 

Besides they're all the fucking same anyway, all staffed by the same new-wave of student-union spawn who have no grasp of anything tangiable or real, they all think in large sweeping abstract form and that's why the country is - and will continue to be - fucked up in so many ways.

 

Which is not only a problem of politicians, but of the media.

 

When will people realise that nobody in the real world gives two shits about the European Constitution - they DO care about the council wanting to chop down a tree in the local park. I myself find things like this difficult to understand sometimes. But that's th way it is.

[Hermes]

When will people realise that nobody in the real world gives two shits about the European Constitution - they DO care about the council wanting to chop down a tree in the local park.

 

Really? you think people care less about giving up sovereignty than they do about what their dog is going to piss against?

[Christian]

Didn't the Tory Party oppose the minimum wage as an example between the parties. I wouldn't vote Tory if I was promised Danni Minogue's bottom for . Toading.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* I would vote Tory for even a sniff of her "parties" (panties)

[moxter]

Yes, I do actually. Not speaking for myself, but the impression I've had (I've done canvassing myself) is that people are most bothered about what happens in their street, followed by their city, followed by national issues, and international issues least of all.

 

Maybe it's because I'm in favour of the idea, but if we gave up the pound I think most people would get over it in a year or two.

[Cath]

Which is not only a problem of politicians, but of the media.

 

When will people realise that nobody in the real world gives two shits about the European Constitution - they DO care about the council wanting to chop down a tree in the local park. I myself find things like this difficult to understand sometimes. But that's th way it is.

 

Isn't that verbatim from the LibDem manifesto?

[Strontium]

Isn't that verbatim from the LibDem manifesto?

 

:thumbsup:

 

The problem is that the two main parties are such unprincipled shits.

 

We have principles - that's why we're lagging way behind in third place. Principles are a burden, not an advantage, in politics.

[moxter]

Isn't that verbatim from the LibDem manifesto?

 

:D Busted!:tease:

[rb14]

Has anybody seen the parliamentary road to socialism?

[Stu Monty]

That's why it's called "Thatcher's minimum wage" people.

 

Remember that.

[Spy Bee]

Labour have done some good Stu, no doubt about it. Every government does some good. There's not a fucking chance on earth that I'll be voting for them in the next election.

 

Minimum wage? Check.

 

Dead squaddies? Check.

Millions of stealth taxes? Check.

State becoming overbearing? Check.

 

etc etc

[Remmie]

Don't care

[Strontium]

That's why it's called "Thatcher's minimum wage" people.

 

Remember that.

 

Ignoring the fact that the minimum wage is, at best, only moderately effective at alleviating poverty, that's a measure they brought in ten years ago. What have they done for the ordinary Joes since 1997? Sweet FA.

[Spy Bee]

Increased the minimum wage?

[moxter]

Were Labour responsble for the Freedom of Information Act or was that somehting the Tories had planned?

 

That and the minimum wage are Labour's triumphs, along with the smoking ban. But frock me, that's pretty pish poor for 11 years in power and counting. There's inepitude and dragging feet reeking out Westminster. They spent the first 7 years or so making excuses for themselves by saying 'well we inherited this mess from the Tories', fair enough excuse for a couple of years I guess but not longer than that. The health service is the pits, transport has got no better (apart from the odd fancy highspeed link here and there) and house prices? Don't get me started. Oh, and not to mention persnal freedoms...

[King Emlyn]

Politicssssssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[hamstrung]

Morally, I probably sit best with the Lib Dems, having been brought up by Guardian reading social workers, but realistically voting for them is pointless.

 

So, the choice is reduced to the Tories (never happen) or the less unpalatable and creepy Labour Party

[7dalglish]

I don't care what he says he's going to do. I dislike Tory voters so anything to piss them off. I'm going to register to vote again, if Gordon fucks things up I won't be affected anyway so it's fine.:whistle:

[Stu Monty]

Ignoring the fact that the minimum wage is, at best, only moderately effective at alleviating poverty, that's a measure they brought in ten years ago. What have they done for the ordinary Joes since 1997? Sweet FA.

 

The sad thing is, if they had done something, anything, you'd not recognise it because you seem to be afflicted with the same illness that a great deal of the people squabbling for power are, and I choose that word carefully. Have you ever seen anything more saddenning and soul-sapping than watching the Tory front bench jumping up and down and hollering like monkeys the session after Brown announced the queens speech. These are the people proposing laws and governance that will lead to respect in society; yeah, that's fucking likely.

 

I absolutely will not vote for BNP lite and that leaves me Labour and the Lib Dems. I trust Labour to run the economy and to know what they are doing far more than I do the Lib Dems but would be open to voting for my local candidate if he could convince me to.

 

The thing is though, you get the leaders you deserve so don't be surprised if they treat you like saps they can do anything too if you don't go out and vote, because you are.

[DT]

Personally, I think what has disappointed me most since May 1 1997 is Labour not really succeeding in improving education (x3) significantly.

 

Also Britain is still in many ways a very rough place to live. There seems to be so much crime, random violence, theft etc. and the whole attitude needs changing.

 

I'm also not a big fan of any legislation which takes away personal freedoms. Imagine if they'd succeeded in bringing in the 90 days without charge last year? On top of that, Britons are the most watched people in Europe (I think I read that somewhere) as there's CCTV absolutely everywhere. Sad fact is though that it seems to be necessary, but it's hardly been a deterrent. Or if it has, then that paints a far more shocking picture of this country.

 

All in all, I'm not so sure Britain is that much better now than it was in 1996. And if it is, how much of that can be attributed to Labour and Blair? What do people think?

[Stu Monty]

Personally, I think what has disappointed me most since May 1 1997 is Labour not really succeeding in improving education (x3) significantly.

 

Also Britain is still in many ways a very rough place to live. There seems to be so much crime, random violence, theft etc. and the whole attitude needs changing.

 

I'm also not a big fan of any legislation which takes away personal freedoms. Imagine if they'd succeeded in bringing in the 90 days without charge last year? On top of that, Britons are the most watched people in Europe (I think I read that somewhere) as there's CCTV absolutely everywhere. Sad fact is though that it seems to be necessary, but it's hardly been a deterrent. Or if it has, then that paints a far more shocking picture of this country.

 

All in all, I'm not so sure Britain is that much better now than it was in 1996. And if it is, how much of that can be attributed to Labour and Blair? What do people think?

 

Oh yeah, and they keep letting bloody foreigners in! Most of them can't even speak the language...well, the do but they try to mock it deliberately with comedy accents.

 

Dogs, country, to, gone...etc.

[DT]

Oh yeah, and they keep letting bloody foreigners in! Most of them can't even speak the language...well, the do but they try to mock it deliberately with comedy accents.

 

Dogs, country, to, gone...etc.

 

Yeah, I forgot about that. Foreigners. And students.