The McCanns...

[Anny Road]

1 minute ago, TK421 said:

I'm not going to try and convince you, Anny.  If you think they had nothing to do with it I think it makes you very gullible.  

I don't think they are innocent. But they are until proved otherwise. Stuff that is a bit dodgy is not proof.

Show me motive, murder weapon, body, witness, crime scene and I will start to consider but going to bed and not answering questions falls a lot short of that. I wish I could cross examine the dogs but we cannot. The top copper is corrupt and was booted out of the force for fitting up someone else for murder, which is never mentioned.

There is no eveidence.

[Thoth]

Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one and nobody likes anyone else’s 

[Pureblood]

1 minute ago, Anny Road said:

I don't think they are innocent. But they are until proved otherwise. Stuff that is a bit dodgy is not proof.

Show me motive, murder weapon, body, witness, crime scene and I will start to consider but going to bed and not answering questions falls a lot short of that. I wish I could cross examine the dogs but we cannot. The top copper is corrupt and was booted out of the force for fitting up someone else for murder, which is never mentioned.

There is no eveidence.

Saying "there is no evidence" just means you know nothing about the case.  There's 11,223 pages of evidence on the PJ file website.  But like I say, I'm not going to try and change your mind, just can't be arsed.

[Anny Road]

Just now, TK421 said:

Saying "there is no evidence" just means you know nothing about the case.  There's 11,223 pages of evidence on the PJ file website.  But like I say, I'm not going to try and change your mind, just can't be arsed.

Charge them then.

[Pureblood]

Just now, Anny Road said:

Charge them then.

The PJ were heading that way until political pressure intervened.  Hence Kate McCann being questioned under caution.  

[Anny Road]

Just now, TK421 said:

The PJ were heading that way until political pressure intervened.  Hence Kate McCann being questioned under caution.  

Ah so it is political as well. Rather all they have is circumstantial and no doubt the UK have insisted as much.

No political establishment has any investment in the McCanns if they were guilty they would be done.

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, TK421 said:

The PJ were heading that way until political pressure intervened.  Hence Kate McCann being questioned under caution.  

The conspiracy goes all the way to the top. 

[Pureblood]

4 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

Ah so it is political as well. Rather all they have is circumstantial and no doubt the UK have insisted as much.

No political establishment has any investment in the McCanns if they were guilty they would be done.

No, it's not circumstantial.  They have DNA evidence - a blood sample from the apartment. 

 

The McCanns are being protected by the UK government, that's why they haven't been questioned under the remit of Operation Grange.  If Operation Grange was a serious investigation the McCanns would be questioned along with the rest of the Tapas 7.  Operation Grange is a sham and was instigated following threats from Rebekah Brooks. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

15 minutes ago, Thoth said:

Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one and nobody likes anyone else’s 

I beg to differ.

 

[Rico1304]

British scientist John Lowe said the sample contained 15 out of 19 components of Madeleine's DNA which were not "unique to her".

 

 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I fear we may have strayed into conspiracy theory territory.

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I fear we may have strayed into conspiracy theory territory.

Dead right. I’m waiting for TK to say they disposed of her body with thermite. 

[Anny Road]

52 minutes ago, TK421 said:

No, it's not circumstantial.  They have DNA evidence - a blood sample from the apartment. 

 

The McCanns are being protected by the UK government, that's why they haven't been questioned under the remit of Operation Grange.  If Operation Grange was a serious investigation the McCanns would be questioned along with the rest of the Tapas 7.  Operation Grange is a sham and was instigated following threats from Rebekah Brooks. 

Show us the evidence.

[Dougie Do'ins]

5 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I fear we may have strayed into conspiracy theory territory.

It's been that since day one of her vanishing. 

[Pureblood]

6 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

Show us the evidence.

Like I say, I'm not here to convince you.  

[Babb'sBurstNad]

6 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Dead right. I’m waiting for TK to say they disposed of her body with thermite. 

Hmmm, has anyone asked the McCanns where they were on 9/11.

[Pureblood]

11 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I fear we may have strayed into conspiracy theory territory.

All a conspiracy is, in the legal sense, is two or more people conspiring to commit a crime.  Not a big deal, really.  When people use that word it's a pretty cheap shot.  I take it as an insult, because I know what they really mean by it. 

[Rico1304]

19 minutes ago, TK421 said:

All a conspiracy is, in the legal sense, is two or more people conspiring to commit a crime.  Not a big deal, really.  When people use that word it's a pretty cheap shot.  I take it as an insult, because I know what they really mean by it. 

For clarity I mean it as an insult. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

49 minutes ago, TK421 said:

All a conspiracy is, in the legal sense, is two or more people conspiring to commit a crime.  Not a big deal, really.  When people use that word it's a pretty cheap shot.  I take it as an insult, because I know what they really mean by it. 

And on the flip side of that coin is you calling someone gullible for not believing they had anything to do with it. 

 

Or is that not an insult?

[Pureblood]

8 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

And on the flip side of that coin is you calling someone gullible for not believing they had anything to do with it. 

 

Or is that not an insult?

Yes it is, obviously.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

2 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Yes it is, obviously.

Fair enough, by your rule of thumb it deserves negging then.

 

Happy to oblige.

[Pureblood]

I do though think that a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs.  That would have been my first objective had I been leading Operation Grange and so that is the biggest issue I have with how that investigation proceeded.  To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.  Had Grange done this then everything would be a lot clearer. I have no idea why this was not done but I am satisfied on what has been said by the Met and what is available that it was not.

 

http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

[Anny Road]

13 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I do though think that a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs.  That would have been my first objective had I been leading Operation Grange and so that is the biggest issue I have with how that investigation proceeded.  To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.  Had Grange done this then everything would be a lot clearer. I have no idea why this was not done but I am satisfied on what has been said by the Met and what is available that it was not.

 

http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

If you are going to quote add some context.

 

'My brush with that investigation – and I call it that because I was never actually involved with it'

[Rico1304]

9 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

If you are going to quote add some context.

 

'My brush with that investigation – and I call it that because I was never actually involved with it'

Ha ha ha ha.

 

Hes doing it again. At least he’s paid his subs. 

[Pureblood]

11 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

If you are going to quote add some context.

 

'My brush with that investigation – and I call it that because I was never actually involved with it'

It's by Colin Sutton, he's a retired policeman.  He had learned that he was going to be approached to lead the Operation Grange investigation, but refused to take part because he was forewarned that the only avenue that would be explored was the abduction theory and that the McCanns/tapas 7 would not be questioned.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF7fR0J5HOw