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I personally think it's the connotations it brings, i.e that you're 'hard' and 'streetwise'.

 

I've always felt younger scousers wear it on their sleeve to the point where it's become the equivelant of being an 'O.G' in the states.

 

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That's the vibe I get anyway, scouse ergo tough, and if you're not then you're not in the club.

 

Cheers for the answer.

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I just dont see the point in it and thats what pisses me off. Its nothing to do with being in a 'club' or being 'hard'.

 

I'd purge most Scousers Uncle Joe style.

 

I just think in some cases its better to say your from Liverpool than a little place on the wirral, If I was Miles Kane or the Coral i'd say i'm from where I was from to give that place so credit rather than somewhere over the water.

 

People jump on the coat tails to further themselves and it pisses me off.

 

I don't think I've ever heard The Coral themselves say they're from Liverpool. I know clueless whoppers do though. I was speaking to a Scouse lad at Glasto when The Coral played the other year and he went "it's class seeing a good Liverpool band here" before I told him they're from Hoylake.

 

Kane's a bad tit for it though.

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I don't think I've ever heard The Coral themselves say they're from Liverpool. I know clueless whoppers do though. I was speaking to a Scouse lad at Glasto when The Coral played the other year and he went "it's class seeing a good Liverpool band here" before I told him they're from Hoylake.

 

Kane's a bad tit for it though.

 

The Coral have never said they aren't though have they?

 

Kane's just a bad tit lets face it!

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When I played for a team in Crosby we had 6/7 lads who were 18-20 and all hung around together. We had 2 teams from Ormskirk, one from Formby and one from Birkdale in our league. When we played these teams the lads would scouse themselves up to the max making out they were big noggsy soldiers threatening to twat people and calling each other "lid" every 5 seconds.

 

The other teams in the legue were mostly from the south end of Liverpool, we played a team of grocks called Edge Hill and their centre mid looked like Micheal Clarke Duncan, none of the plazzy scallies uttered a word all game. Other games were against teams from Dovecot, Speke, Huyton, Garston & Dingle and they were all notoriously quiet in those games too.

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Ive noticed ESD on holiday/airports, loud exagerated scouse accents to make sure everyone within earshot knows they are scouse, a scouse superiority complex as though other people from around the country want to be scousers or something

 

We went through a whole week in Puerto Rico without hearing one scouse accent, then on the final day was sat in McDonalds, and four lads wearing shants all walk in, and one goes - for everyone else to hear - "Errrrrrrrrr Wha Shcran av ya goh!?!?"

 

Err, fucking BURGERS!!!!!

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Ive noticed ESD on holiday/airports, loud exagerated scouse accents to make sure everyone within earshot knows they are scouse, a scouse superiority complex as though other people from around the country want to be scousers or something

 

My mate was outside some pub last year when he was about to watch teh Liverpool V Chelsea semi final. Some scall came up to him and said "Alright lid, you're a scouser aren't yer lid, not like all these students and wools here, you going ter Moscow if we get there lid?" -

 

My mate "No, i'm an Evertonian"

 

Scall - "yeah lid but we'd all be scousers together over there lid, scouser on tour an that"

 

My mate "I'm not spending £1500 to watch Liverpool as I support Everton"

 

Scall - "it's not about that lid, us scousers we all have to stick together an that - it will be great an that, we're different to the rest of the country - no one else understands what we're about an that do they lid"

 

My mate - "no, i'm not going"

 

Scall "Lend us £1.30 for a can of Special Brew lad, you're a good scouser an that"

 

My mate - "Just Fuck off you tit"

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I think its the fact that we've had a lot of fun poked at us over the years. A lot of strikes and prostests. These just strengthen our sense of selves and commaraderie. I think the desire to stick together and to be part of 'the clan' stems from needing a feeling of saftey when we're away so we can say 'fuck you' to whoever is on the outside. People will often see this and want in. Its like a club.

Thats why a lot of Scousers are very sensitive about what is said about Liverpool. my self included.

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I think its the fact that we've had a lot of fun poked at us over the years. A lot of strikes and prostests. These just strengthen our sense of selves and commaraderie. I think the desire to stick together and to be part of 'the clan' stems from needing a feeling of saftey when we're away so we can say 'fuck you' to whoever is on the outside. People will often see this and want in. Its like a club.

Thats why a lot of Scousers are very sensitive about what is said about Liverpool. my self included.

 

I'd go along with that.

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I think Ginny has hit part of it on the head

 

Aye, I'd agree in that. And you know, it's the sticking together and helping each other out that makes me most proud of where I'm from - the 'solidarity' for want of a better expression. However, what's the need to try and be uber Scouse - lid, lid, fucking lid, grock on the floor, know worra mean lid (all said not to his mate five yards away, but everyone within fifty metres). We can't complain about being portrayed a thick, up to no good scallies, if that's all people see of us, and this ESD does just that - imho of course.

 

Edit: Saw a documentary on the Beatles once and some "mate" of theirs described them a bunch of typical scallies, and I'm thinking eh!?

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Is this true???

 

 

There are variations on the Scouse accent, with the south side of the city adopting a softer, lyrical tone, and the north a rougher, more gritty accent. Those differences, though not universal, can be seen in the pronunciation of the vowels. The northern half of the city more frequently pronounces the words 'book', 'cook' differently (as in many Scottish and Northern Irish but also Lancashire and Stoke-on-Trent accents). The southern half of the city is closer to the RP English pronunciation of these words.

 

 

Scouse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I've never been able to suss variations of the scouse accent. Some sound moderate (like mine) and others sounds strong (your average market stall holder) while others sound just shit (anyone under 21)

 

I don't see the geographical link though.

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I reckon its bollocks. My simple thing to suss out was "la" = south, "mate", "man" was north. Lid confuses this (admittedly weak hypothesis) somewhat though. It's more in the way people act that I get an idea of where they're from.

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Only to a small extent I reckon, I've lived among wools for eight years and my accent is still the same, although certain small phrases have crept in (I was roundly abused by a mate not long ago for asking him to 'fetch me DVDs back')

 

I did a thing in English A level once which said that Scouse was actually corosive to other accents because it's so strong, it took influences from Welsh and Irish but is so distinct that it actually repels the surrounding cheshire and lancashire accents because it's stronger than them. Quality,

 

Excellent theory. I like it.

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One of my old school 'mates' does that with the Yorkshire accent for some strange reason. He'd been living in Sheffield for about 18 months and starts saying stuff to me like "how do?" and I'm lilke "Dave stop being such a bad bellend."

 

Conversely though, he plays up the whole scouse act when he's out round his way.

 

I like my accent, and I think scouse sounds unique and ace when it's spoken properly, it's probably my favourite accent along with Newcastle and southern Irish, but I really couldn't care what people think of me or how scouse I am, I have no desire at all to export my scouseness around the globe.

 

I'm studying in Sheffield and a few lads I know, who've been here as long as me (nearly 2 years) have started saying things like "reet" instead of "right" and shit like that. Pisses me right off. It's just done blatantly as show.

 

On the subject, I'm from the Wirral but I do have quite a strong accent. My family is originally from Liverpool (West Derby) and most still live in the city so I have spent a lot of my time over the water in my life, as well as regularly going the match from about the age of 7. Maybe that has something to do with it, I don't know. Certainly wouldn't exaggerate anything though, there's nothing more cringeworthy. I've got mates who do it in certain situations (on holidays, etc) and it makes my skin crawl.

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I'm studying in Sheffield and a few lads I know, who've been here as long as me (nearly 2 years) have started saying things like "reet" instead of "right" and shit like that. Pisses me right off. It's just done blatantly as show.

 

On the subject, I'm from the Wirral but I do have quite a strong accent. My family is originally from Liverpool (West Derby) and most still live in the city so I have spent a lot of my time over the water in my life, as well as regularly going the match from about the age of 7. Maybe that has something to do with it, I don't know. Certainly wouldn't exaggerate anything though, there's nothing more cringeworthy. I've got mates who do it in certain situations (on holidays, etc) and it makes my skin crawl.

 

In Sheffield tomorrow, what pubs would you recommend.

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sounds like they have no identity. Many places in England dont and will try and be chameleons. People from Liverpool should be proud they have an identity and imitation can be seen as flattery.

 

As far the different accents within liverpool i cant comment as i doubt i could tell unless i listened to them for a fair bit

 

why anyone from outside liverpool would put on an accent to fit in is beyond me, i could understand someone in the first week of uni or something butbeyond that??

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sounds like they have no identity. Many places in England dont and will try and be chameleons. People from Liverpool should be proud they have an identity and imitation can be seen as flattery.

As far the different accents within liverpool i cant comment as i doubt i could tell unless i listened to them for a fair bit

 

why anyone from outside liverpool would put on an accent to fit in is beyond me, i could understand someone in the first week of uni or something butbeyond that??

 

 

The different accents within Liverpool are what interest me, but then again I am a former linguistics student. Forgive me. (It is a very interesting topic, for anyone who doesn't want to call me a cunt.)

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In Sheffield tomorrow, what pubs would you recommend.

 

Depends mate. If it's to watch the footy i'd say they are all generally shite (from my limited experience in the city centre) and will most probably be full of student whoppers. There is a boozer called the Old Monk near The Crucible theatre which is apparently good for footy, although I've never been. General pubs wise, the Lloyds Bar in the main square is quite smart, and there are a few nice places around that area. Heard the Brown Bear (near the crucible again) is meant to be ok for a choice of real ales too. Also, The Devonshire Arms, which I think is on Corporation St (may be wrong, ask a cabby) is a cracking boozer. You could go along the bar and try a different bevvy all night, loads of guest ales, and also a cellar with about 100 different varieties of bottles from around the world.

 

Hope some of that helps mate, unfortunately my knowledge is fairly limited to the studenty places which are on the whole shite.

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I think its the fact that we've had a lot of fun poked at us over the years. A lot of strikes and prostests. These just strengthen our sense of selves and commaraderie. I think the desire to stick together and to be part of 'the clan' stems from needing a feeling of saftey when we're away so we can say 'fuck you' to whoever is on the outside. People will often see this and want in. Its like a club.

Thats why a lot of Scousers are very sensitive about what is said about Liverpool. my self included.

 

True dat

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