Architecture

[VladimirIlyich]

10 hours ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I am guessing you think we shouldn’t celebrate buildings that weren’t built by a fully unionised workforce paid the living wage. Let’s start with the Pyramids. How do you feel about them ? 

I was going to compare it to them but it was only Egyptians beating on their slaves,so meh!

[cochyn]

1 hour ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

Yes, but I'm trying to move on from the boxy build, Rico!

You can't go far wrong with Sketchup:

 

https://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-pro

https://www.sketchup.com/plans-and-pricing/sketchup-free

 

It's a simple surface modelling program that will get you attuned to thinking and visualising in 3D.  It's basically free (you get the option to upgrade to Pro after the 30 day license expires - but the basic version is more than enough).  As it is essentially freeware it has benefitted from years of user-generated content. Sign up to a Trimble account and you get access to the 3D warehouse which has tons of models and components (windows, doors, furniture etc.) that folk have made. Also there's a ton of tutorials and guides online.

 

I use it all the time for banging out 3D concepts and feasibility schemes. It's a lot of fun once you've grasped the basics. 

 

There's a ton of CAD freeware out there as well, but I've only used AutoCAD. They tend to be a bit 'techy' though. 

[rb14]

+1 for SketchUp. It's far more powerful than it appears at first glance. It's also the only 3D software I've found that is remotely intuitive. 

[Chairman Meow]

I've not experimented with Sketchup at all but played with Autocad, Solidworks, Catia and Creo (formerly Pro/Engineer). 

 

My advice with any software is always go for something that is easy to find tutorials for. I found Solidworks and Catia the most intuitive of the above. Catia is probably the most powerful of them, but it's absolutely horrendous to work in and really hard to get to grips with. We only use it because it's the standard for Automotive/Motorsport/Aerospace so we're kind of stuck with it. There is a real lack of in depth information about it though and it's a way steeper learning curve than the rest.

 

Without even looking at a tutorial you can more or less jump into the others and be up and running and making basic items very easily just by messing around. 

 

All of the above are available on torrent sites I am led to believe. I've never used them of course, but I have heard the versions cracked by Solid Squad work the best. 

[Chairman Meow]

24 minutes ago, Chairman Meow said:

I've not experimented with Sketchup at all but played with Autocad, Solidworks, Catia and Creo (formerly Pro/Engineer). 

 

My advice with any software is always go for something that is easy to find tutorials for. I found Solidworks and Catia the most intuitive of the above. Catia is probably the most powerful of them, but it's absolutely horrendous to work in and really hard to get to grips with. We only use it because it's the standard for Automotive/Motorsport/Aerospace so we're kind of stuck with it. There is a real lack of in depth information about it though and it's a way steeper learning curve than the rest.

 

Without even looking at a tutorial you can more or less jump into the others and be up and running and making basic items very easily just by messing around. 

 

All of the above are available on torrent sites I am led to believe. I've never used them of course, but I have heard the versions cracked by Solid Squad work the best. 

Edit: Just realised I said Solidworks and Catia the most intuitive, that should have been Solidworks and Creo. Catia is definitely not intuitive. 

[Qwikage]

We do a lot of classical architecture projects: most of which I cant show as they are covered by NDA's. 

 

These are a couple of examples over the last few years. The last could have been in the Juxtaposition thread! 

 

Not everyone's cup of tea but I enjoy this type of work more than the spreadsheet inspired architecture which drives most buildings nowadays.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

Thanks, everyone, for the pointers. We also found Architect 3D. Don't know if anyone has tried it, but it looks like it holds your hand a bit, and has quite a big library to paste from. We will get on with looking at the options.

 

My wife did a couple of sketches, yesterday evening, whilst I was posting on here. I saw it this morning whilst she was busy on a conference call. The ubiquitous lap-pool was there (in a pavillion!), but she'd also added utility and plant rooms to her design. She's been paying more attention to the Aussie Grand Designs than I thought! Actually, this was pretty predictable: she feigns indifference, then gets all competitive on the sly.

 

 

[neko]

1 hour ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

Thanks, everyone, for the pointers. We also found Architect 3D. Don't know if anyone has tried it, but it looks like it holds your hand a bit, and has quite a big library to paste from. We will get on with looking at the options.

 

My wife did a couple of sketches, yesterday evening, whilst I was posting on here. I saw it this morning whilst she was busy on a conference call. The ubiquitous lap-pool was there (in a pavillion!), but she'd also added utility and plant rooms to her design. She's been paying more attention to the Aussie Grand Designs than I thought! Actually, this was pretty predictable: she feigns indifference, then gets all competitive on the sly.

 

 

Definitely Sketchup is what you want.

 

I teach 2D/3D drafting and design with Autocad and 3D Studio MAX, but you don't want to go there.

 

Letting the wife design the house could be costly. Mine wants a gondola and water slide, two hot tubs and a floating sauna/pavilion ( I like that one)

[cloggypop]

13 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I was going to compare it to them but it was only Egyptians beating on their slaves,so meh!

They weren't slaves

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

[neko]

2 hours ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

Thanks, everyone, for the pointers. We also found Architect 3D. Don't know if anyone has tried it, but it looks like it holds your hand a bit, and has quite a big library to paste from. We will get on with looking at the options.

 

My wife did a couple of sketches, yesterday evening, whilst I was posting on here. I saw it this morning whilst she was busy on a conference call. The ubiquitous lap-pool was there (in a pavillion!), but she'd also added utility and plant rooms to her design. She's been paying more attention to the Aussie Grand Designs than I thought! Actually, this was pretty predictable: she feigns indifference, then gets all competitive on the sly.

 

 

I had a look at that Architect 3D. Not bad. As you said, it seems to do a lot of the work for you without being too restrictive.

 

Post some design ideas when you're ready for critique.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

1 hour ago, neko said:

I had a look at that Architect 3D. Not bad. As you said, it seems to do a lot of the work for you without being too restrictive.

 

Post some design ideas when you're ready for critique.

I'll post the wife's- they're bound to be better.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, cloggypop said:

They weren't slaves

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

 

[A Red]

I've got a question for any who might be Architects or in the building trade that might be able to help.

 

We're having an extension and have had the plans done which are with the planning department for approval, this was due last week and we're chasing hard. We've had one knock back but reasonably confident that the updated submitted plans should meet the requirements.

 

Our Architect has just told us he's going off on paternity leave for a month in a week or 2 so wont be able to do our building regs plans. It would have been nice to have had a heads up a few months ago as we have a builder pretty much ready to go, assuming the price is ok.

 

We are now trying to find another Architect to do the building regs plans, my question is, does the Architect need to physically see the site or could they do the reg plans from the standard outline plans submitted? The reason being is that Cornwall isnt exactly swimming in Architects and if we could look nationwide it would be a lot easier to find one.

 

If anyone has any ideas please let me know or drop me a PM. Thanks

[J-V]

Most architects will want to go onsite.  Any issues on the building regs drawings the architect is liable for.  They’ll normally need to check for trees, manholes/sewage etc as well.  

You’ll probably also have an issue getting the actual DWG/cad drawing from your current architect due to copyright.  This depends how friendly you are with said architect. If you can’t get the file the new architect will need to re-draw from your drawings currently with the council which is a pain in the arse.
 

If it’s only a single storey rear it shouldn't take long for your architect to do.

[A Red]

54 minutes ago, J-V said:

Most architects will want to go onsite.  Any issues on the building regs drawings the architect is liable for.  They’ll normally need to check for trees, manholes/sewage etc as well.  

You’ll probably also have an issue getting the actual DWG/cad drawing from your current architect due to copyright.  This depends how friendly you are with said architect. If you can’t get the file the new architect will need to re-draw from your drawings currently with the council which is a pain in the arse.
 

If it’s only a single storey rear it shouldn't take long for your architect to do.

Thanks for that, it makes sense then that they would need to see the site

 

Our existing architect lives within walking distance from us so I hope he would feel it a bit too close to be awkward particularly as he is instigating the need to get someone else involved.

[rb14]

Whizzed up for a couple of nights, went for a walk with a mate this morning. Just a small selection....

 

 

[Rico1304]

Is that inside the Barbican? 

[rb14]

40 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Some nice shots there. Where’s the station ? I remember when the Lloyds building first went up, it was astonishing. Not it’s dwarfed by its neighbours. I prefer the Gherkin, looks like alien spaceship on a launch pad. 

I guess you're referring to the vaulted roof of Leadenhall Market? And the Gherkin is still an alien spaceship! 

 

14 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Is that inside the Barbican? 

Well yes and no. And yes. I mean yes; three of the pix are parts of the Barbican. All publicly accessible. But that's what you meant really, so erm, shall I shut up? Yes. Yes. 

[Rico1304]

Thanks. I didn’t know you could go in, last time I was there I saw edwina curry going in the underground car park and it traumatised me. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I've just stumbled across this article about some of the rejected designs for Sydney Opera House.

 

I like the one they chose.

 

https://www.arch2o.com/what-the-sydney-opera-house-could-have-looked-like-7-rejected-proposals/

 

[Rushies tash]

7 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I've just stumbled across this article about some of the rejected designs for Sydney Opera House.

 

I like the one they chose.

 

https://www.arch2o.com/what-the-sydney-opera-house-could-have-looked-like-7-rejected-proposals/

 

Some uninspiring designs in there. Number 4 isn't too bad, but yeah, they picked the best one in the end.

[VladimirIlyich]

I had no idea Sydney Opera House was designed on a 'sea shell' theme. Just thought it was some funky design.

[rb14]

#3 and #6 are disastrous. 

#2b, #4b and #7 are ok. 

So #2a, #4a and #5b are the best. 

#1 is really a strong design, but I can't see how it works as an opera house. 

[A Red]

With the shite bureaucratic planning system we have, how the fuck anything gets built in this country I dont know.

[cochyn]

40 minutes ago, A Red said:

With the shite bureaucratic planning system we have, how the fuck anything gets built in this country I dont know.

It's not so much the Planning organisation (though it is deeply flawed), it's councilors and other elected members getting the casting vote on schemes at planning meetings.

 

Imagine training for seven years as a designer, and after years of experience, working collaboratively with a wide range of specialists for months on a scheme. Only to have it decided upon my a bunch of gossipping florists, soap-box tory boys (with a few eco-warriors thrown in the mix), all with no technical or design knowledge. It's genuinely like having your degree dissertation being marked by nervous but angry five year olds.