Global Warming

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Always thought that this doco succeeded in debunking Gore and the IPCC:

 

 

A few counter-arguments.

http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/07/11/global_warming_swindle/

 

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths

 

https://www.desmogblog.com/a-global-warming-swindle-play-by-play

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/society/environment/ofcom+finds+the+great+global+warming+swindle+breached+broadcast+rules+/2351767.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/mar/13/science.media

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

 You can tell we're in the shit, Frank from Donnie Darko has even turned up.

 

 

[Pureblood]

I have hopes that technology can solve this.  Can they not invent some machine to control what's in the atmosphere like in Aliens?  

[SasaS]

Emma Thompson joins the Extinction Rebellion protest. Why is it always someone you were wondering where were they now? According to the BBC, she said to the protesters: "We are here in this little island of sanity..."

 

Somehow not getting the same vibe off these people as Dame Emma.

[VladimirIlyich]

18 hours ago, SasaS said:

Emma Thompson joins the Extinction Rebellion protest. Why is it always someone you were wondering where were they now? According to the BBC, she said to the protesters: "We are here in this little island of sanity..."

 

Somehow not getting the same vibe off these people as Dame Emma.

She's too old to do the nude pics so demonstrations are the next best thing.

[Red Shift]

On 19/04/2019 at 08:26, AngryofTuebrook said:

A few counter-arguments.

http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/07/11/global_warming_swindle/

 

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths

 

https://www.desmogblog.com/a-global-warming-swindle-play-by-play

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/articles/society/environment/ofcom+finds+the+great+global+warming+swindle+breached+broadcast+rules+/2351767.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/mar/13/science.media

 

 

OMG I WAS SO WRONG.

 

 

[Anubis]

Uhttps://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/shocking-new-report-on-loss-of-nature-paints-a-terrifying-picture-for-the-future-of-humanity_uk_5ccfff28e4b04e275d4cf597?25q&utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

 

Planet Earth has been put on red alert by hundreds of leading scientists who have warned humanity faces an existential threat within decades if the steep decline of nature is not reversed.

 

The conclusions of the greatest-ever stock-taking of the living world, published on Monday, show that ecosystems and wild populations are shrinking, deteriorating or vanishing completely, and up to one million species of land and marine life could be made extinct by humans’ actions if present trends continue.

 

Food, pollination, clean water and a stable climate all depend on a thriving plant and animal population, but forests and wetlands are being erased worldwide and oceans are under growing stress, says the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES), the United Nations’ expert nature panel of nearly 500 scientists, in the landmark global assessment report. 

 

The three-year project analysed around 15,000 academic studies that focused on everything from plankton and fish to bees, coral, forests, frogs and insects.

 

If we continue to pollute the planet and waste natural resources as we have been doing, it won’t just affect people’s quality of life but will lead to a further deterioration of earth’s planetary systems, said the IPBES scientists.

 

“The essential, interconnected web of life on Earth is getting smaller and increasingly frayed. This loss is a direct result of human activity and constitutes a direct threat to human well-being in all regions of the world,” said professor Josef Settele, a research ecologist and co-chair of the 1,800 page report, the summary of which was agreed to by 132 governments meeting in Paris this weekend, including the U.S.

 

The scale and rapid speed of this decline of nature is unprecedented in human history and is likely to continue for at least 50 years, say the authors of the global study, but can still largely be turned around if governments, businesses and individuals urgently commit to working together to conserve and restore nature, and to use fewer natural resources better.

 

It will require a concerted worldwide effort to change the way we live, said IPBES chair Sir Robert Watson, a former chief scientist at NASA who is now with the U.K. government. 

 

“The whole world is focused on climate change but loss of biodiversity is just as important,” said Watson. “You can’t deal with one without the other. There is a recognition now that biodiversity is an environmental issue, but it’s also about economics and development, too. We have to reform the economic system.”

 

The global assessment report, which will not be published in full until later this year (only the conclusions have been released), is unique among governmental biodiversity studies because it identifies both the direct drivers of nature’s losses ― such as climate change, agricultural expansion, pollution and the exploitation of oceans and forests ― and the underlying causes.

 

These indirect drivers are more controversial and include world population, which has doubled since 1970 (from 3.7 billion to 7.6 billion people), the tenfold increase in global trade over the last five decades, the sheer amount of goods that people now buy in rich countries, as well as supply chains, the endless pursuit of economic growth, damaging subsidies and the sharp growth of new technologies, all of which put demands on natural resources.

[Anubis]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/18/this-is-a-wake-up-call-the-villagers-who-could-be-britains-first-climate-refugees

 

 

It is an almost perfect spring day. The sky is milky blue and there is barely a ripple on the mirror-flat expanse of Barmouth Bay. The sunshine is warm and the mountains are beginning to turn from slate-grey to luscious green. Bev Wilkins, a former businesswoman, launches a ball down the beach for her beloved German shepherd rescue dog, Lottie. In a blur of legs and black fur, the dog dashes into the frothy surf. “It is a lovely spot when the sun comes out,” she says, welcoming her dripping pet back with an affectionate rub. “Horrible when it rains.”

 

This is how Wilkins, 67, expected to spend her retirement when she sold her family home in Warwick and moved to Fairbourne, in north Wales, in 2002. For many years it was blissful: she spent her summers swimming in the sea and drying off in the back garden. Winters were harder, although she always had the views of Snowdonia’s rugged slopes to lift her spirits. But if Wilkins lasts nearly as long as her mother, who is 98 and also lives in the village, she could be among the first residents to be moved out: Gwynedd council has decided it can no longer defend her home from rising sea levels driven by increasing global temperatures.

 

“This is a wake-up call for the country,” she says, making her way up the steep shingle bank to the wall that protects her white bungalow from the waves. “This is going to happen elsewhere. Sometimes you have to see someone else go through it – we just happen to be the first.”

 

In 26 years – or sooner, if forecasts worsen or a storm breaches the sea defences – a taskforce led by Gwynedd council will begin to move the 850 residents of Fairbourne out of their homes. The whole village – houses, shops, roads, sewers, gas pipes and electricity pylons – will then be dismantled, turning the site back into a tidal salt marsh.

 

It will become the first community in the UK to be decommissioned as a result of climate change; while other villages along England’s crumbling east coast have lost houses to accelerating erosion, none have been abandoned. It may also create hundreds of British climate refugees: the residents of Fairbourne are not expected to receive any compensation for the loss of their homes, and resettlement plans are unclear.

 

It will not be the last village to meet this fate. Sea levels around the UK have risen by 15.4cm since 1900, and the Met Office expects them to rise by as much as 1.12m from modern levels by 2100, putting at risk communities in coastal floodplains and on sea cliffs, which are found around much of the east and south coast of England. The west of Wales and north-west England are also vulnerable. Even if the world’s governments succeed in reversing increasing emissions in line with their Paris climate commitments, sea levels are set to rise for centuries, as the impact of higher global temperature and warmer oceans takes effect.

 

Fairbourne rises, somewhat improbably, from reedy mudflats that slide into the Irish Sea. A straggle of white bungalows, holiday cottages and Victorian apartments, the village spreads out between the brackish waters of the Mawddach estuary mouth and the pale uplands of the Snowdonia national park. On a bright day, with birdsong carrying on the warm breeze, it is easy to understand why the Victorian flour merchant Arthur McDougall chose this spot to build his ideal seaside resort in the late 1890s.

 

Since then, it has developed sporadically into a thriving and joyously eccentric English-speaking village of about 410 homes, with a shop, deli, chippy, butchers, campsite and a popular model railway. Many retired couples moved here from industrial towns and cities in the Midlands, inspired by vivid memories of childhood holidays in north Wales. Others were attracted by the spectacular landscape and the uncrowded beaches – along with relatively affordable house prices.

 

Gwynedd council decided it could not afford to defend the village indefinitely in 2013. But the first time most local people heard about the new shoreline management plan was the following year, when BBC Wales’s investigative television series, Week In Week Out, highlighted parts of it in the wake of ferocious storms. The village, which is barely above sea level, is protected by a sea wall, earth banks and a network of drainage channels. These defences were recently improved as part of a £6.8m scheme to extend the life of the village; but from the middle of the century, increasingly regular flooding could render Fairbourne unhabitable. A breach of the wall during a storm surge could sweep away houses and drown villagers.

 

As word of the council’s decision spread, house sales fell through and prices collapsed. Some residents simply stopped maintaining their homes and gardens. Others formed a campaign group, claiming that the reporting of the plan was misleading, and that the village had been unfairly singled out by Gwynedd. They argued that flooding was much worse in Aberystwyth, Barmouth and Borth in 2014.

 

The campaign petered out when key members moved away, but much of the bitterness remains. Wilkins, one of the original campaigners, feels the village has been badly treated. “There are hundreds of residents in Fairbourne,” she says, as we talk in her living room. “We’ve got the little railway. We’ve got the shops. We’ve got a post office. We are a thriving community, and that’s all going to be wiped out. I don’t like to think about it.”

 

Houses have started to sell again, but only to cash buyers looking for bargains; some calculate they can make a profit from rental income in the time Fairbourne has left. However, many of the villagers cannot drop their asking prices £40,000 or £50,000 below the already depressed market rate for the area, because they could not afford to buy anywhere else.

 

Halfway along a quiet, sun-dappled cul-de-sac, Cathy Bowen, 83, and George Bowen, 76, are struggling to sell their two-bedroom bungalow for £125,000. The couple moved to the village from Staffordshire 18 years ago after falling in love with the area on family caravan holidays. But they want to sell because George, a cancer survivor who has type 2 diabetes, needs to be near a hospital. “We want to move because George is not very well and I’m 83,” says Cathy, perched on a stool in their cosy lounge. “I won’t be able to look after him for long.” There has been no interest so far. “It’s been on for three months and not a soul has been here to see it,” she says, glumly.

 

For Mike Thrussell, 64, a well-known angling journalist, this is the untold story of Fairbourne. Thrussell lives in one of the older, McDougall-era properties just below the sea wall, and claims the council has abandoned the villagers without any solutions. “There are a lot of people in my position. I’ve been here 38 years. My house is paid for. I’m two and half years away from retirement,” he says. “And then this comes along.”

 

Thrussell, who used to co-present BBC Five Live’s Fish on Five, says houses in Fairbourne have lost a good 40% of their value – and are bound to drop further as the decommissioning date approaches. “People who want to sell are taking very cheap cash deals. I can’t do that. Where am I going to go? I wouldn’t get enough money to get another house,” he says, slamming his kitchen table in frustration. Many villagers, he explains, had been planning to use their homes to pay for their care. “How the authorities can sit there and push this forward with no solutions beggars belief,” he says.

 

Elsewhere in the village there is a mixture of sadness, denial and confusion about the long-term threat. Standing at the bow of his boat, Barmouth’s former harbourmaster, Julian Kirkham, is adamant that he will not leave his home and says even scientists can’t agree on sea-level rises. “It is just panic,” he says. “There has been so much waffle that nobody knows what will happen.”

 

Younger residents will almost certainly experience the decommissioning of the village – although many question the likelihood of flooding. Julia Walker, 32, who is buying groceries in the local shop, tells me she cannot move out. “Our house is nice, but the thought that you might be in negative equity isn’t great when you have a young family starting out.” She has three children, and is pregnant with a fourth. The villagers feel powerless, she says. “We don’t have options. We are just pawns.”

 

Shane Healy, 27, is leaning on a post outside the shop. His mother moved to the village from Sutton Coldfield in the Midlands shortly before he was born. “It will be a shame to lose everything. It has been built up from scratch and to watch it go under water would be heartbreaking for a lot of people,” he says.

 

Benjamin Winfer, 18, is walking his two dogs along the beach. He works in a nearby chocolate factory. He would like to buy, but banks refuse to lend in Fairbourne. “I love it here,” he says, over the crackle of the tide dragging the shingle back and forth. “I want to live here for the rest of my life, but I can’t get a mortgage.”

 

Despite the uncertain future, some people are moving into Fairbourne. One of the new arrivals is Angie Brown, a retired tax officer. She parks outside the shop and dashes in to pick up some beer for an impromptu barbecue. “This is la-la land – flooding is not going to happen,” she says. “Yes, the prices will continue to drop, but we will get the pleasure of living here in the meantime.”

 

Next day, the weather turns. The sea is wild and frothy. A bitter wind blasts the village and hailstones the size of boiled sweets pound the beach. The engineer responsible for maintaining Fairbourne’s flood defences, Gareth Evens, is sensibly waiting in his Natural Resources Wales van. He knows better than anyone the multiple risks the village faces. “At high tide you can see how vulnerable Fairbourne is,” he says. “There are not many places where the houses are almost lower than the level of sea. If the sea defence fails then people are at risk straightaway. It would be catastrophic.”

 

Evens says that, while other areas along the coast might appear to have a worse history of flooding, rising sea levels make it hard to defend Fairbourne in the long run. “It is a low-lying area. It is kept dry by sea defences, tidal defences and a network of ditches,” he says. The tide is predicted to reach ever higher up the beach as the century progresses. This makes it more likely that waves could come over the top or break the concrete sea wall, which sits on a single bank that is steadily being swept away. “If the defence is breached, there would be an immediate torrent of water. We are talking about loss of life, because the houses are built just behind,” Evens says.

 

The threat doesn’t just come from the sea. Rainwater pours off the mountains and water surges up and down the estuary. Higher tides mean the water cannot always drain away through tidal flaps and backs up in the village. “You have almost got a basin in Fairbourne. All the runoff water naturally wants to come here,” he says. Would Evens buy a house here? “Knowing what I know, I probably would not,” he says.

 

As hail drums on roofs and wind rakes the beach, the council officer tasked with the decommissioning, Lisa Goodier, arrives in her car. She has grown to know the area well since she was appointed to work with the community in 2014, and is greeted warmly by a few brave dog walkers. “It is sad to think this will all be gone,” she remarks after taking cover in a seafront cafe. “But I hope it will be a big moment in this country for taking climate change seriously.”

 

Goodier has been drawing up a masterplan covering the timetable for decommissioning the village. “Based on the current rates of sea-level rise, we are planning to start in 2045,” she says. This will involve removing all trace of human existence. “It means we would eventually return this land to the sea,” Goodier says. “We would have to move everybody out, and then every ounce of infrastructure to return it to a salt marsh over time.”

 

However, the plan is on “a piece of elastic”: the process may have to be brought forward immediately if the sea wall is breached and inundated. “If we have an early breach in the next two years then we need to be able to condense that very quickly,” she says, cradling a cup of takeaway tea.

 

Goodier says the villagers are “unlikely” to get any compensation but will receive help to resettle. “The idea is to work with the community to gradually move them out and provide solutions that we can all live with. They will not be great solutions, given where we are financially,” she says. Gwynedd council has been cutting spending for more than a decade and is facing a shortfall of £13m in 2019/20.

 

Goodier is aware that the stakes are high for residents who may end up with no assets. “What we don’t want to do is create a bunch of climate refugees, because Fairbourne is at risk of that,” she warns. There are no plans to rebuild the village elsewhere, not least because there is no land available in the Snowdonia national park. Instead, residents are likely to be placed in existing towns and villages in north Wales. Goodier admits that this will be challenging: “Are those places capable of absorbing that number of people?” Added to this is the risk that Welsh-speaking communities may not accept them. “Do people want to go there, and do people want to receive people from Fairbourne? Fairbourne is unusual because it is an English-speaking community in the most Welsh county in the whole of Wales,” Goodier says.

 

This is uncharted territory for local authorities. There has never been a similar decommissioning project in the UK, and there is no fund to manage the impact of climate change, Goodier says. She has searched in vain for international precedents, but found only a flood-prone Alaskan village that was voluntarily relocated in 2016.

 

The Welsh minister responsible for flooding, Lesley Griffiths, is sympathetic to the villagers’ plight but says the government is under no legal obligation to provide compensation. “I know that sounds hard, but we don’t want to raise expectations that financial support could be available,” she says. Griffiths admits that rising sea levels could mean that other Welsh communities are given up to the sea. “There may come a time when it is not sustainable or safe to try to continue to defend low-lying areas, if our seas rise as predicted,” she says.

 

Talk of decommissioning angers the Arthog community council, the equivalent of an English parish council. Stuart Eves, the council’s vice-chair, lives in a rambling stone farmhouse on the outskirts of Fairbourne. He arrived from Buckinghamshire 40 years ago and runs the 30-pitch caravan park, which fills up every weekend throughout the summer. “Goodier is wrong to say she is going to decommission the village. You decommission a factory or something like that. We are not a factory – the village is full of humans who have spent their life’s money to come and live here because it is such a beautiful place,” he says in his living room, which is infused with the rich tang of wood smoke.

 

The community council is opposed to Gwynedd’s plans for Fairbourne. “We are going to object strongly to this masterplan. There are no hard facts,” he says, leaning forward in his chair. “Nobody can really say if the sea level is going to increase or decrease.”

 

Other communities are likely to face similar battles in the coming decades. While cities and areas with important industries are likely to be defended, smaller coastal communities are most at risk. Norfolk villages such as Happisburgh, which has lost 35 homes to the sea, and Hemsby, which has lost 18 homes, are on the frontline of accelerating coastal erosion. But these are not facing decommissioning because only the outskirts are threatened at present; in a few cases, demolished homes have been relocated further inland. There’s no such option in Fairbourne, caught between the sea and the mountains.

 

A report for the government Committee on Climate Change (CCC) last year found nearly 530,000 properties at risk along the English coast. By the 2080s, up to 1.5m homes will be at risk of flooding, with more than 100,000 homes at risk from coastal erosion. In Wales, 104,000 properties are at risk of coastal flooding. The lead author of the CCC report, Jim Hall, says existing plans to protect the coast are unfunded and unrealistic, and that the public are being kept in the dark about the real risks. “The situation on the coast is a timebomb,” he says down the line from Oxford University, where he is professor of climate and environmental risk. “About half the coast of England is protected with sea walls, promenades and other coastal defences. But many of these are reaching the end of their lives. It is just not going to be affordable to continue to protect large stretches of coastline.”

 

Hall argues that the chancellor will have to foot the bill to defend densely populated areas with important industries; he says the CCC’s analysis shows councils are claiming wrongly that they can afford to protect at least 185km of England’s coastline. “Some coastal communities are being told by councils that they can hold the line for part or all of the century,” he says. “But funding for these locations is unlikely.”

 

Hall would like local authorities to lead difficult conversations in these threatened communities, which could include the relocation of existing homes and limiting the approval of new properties. “We need to start making hard choices now,” he says. “This needs to be an inclusive process with some accompanying funding because communities need to be supported if they are going to adapt.” Instead of making impossible promises to build bigger defences, authorities should allow a new coastline to form, to protect communities further inland. “Coastlines are naturally resilient. They roll backwards. Beaches, wetlands, mudflats provide a natural buffer against storms and waves,” Hall says.

 

The Environment Agency’s new flood and coastal erosion strategy for England, published earlier this month, admits its engineers cannot win a war against water and accepts some coastal communities will have to be moved. But it doesn’t propose any funding streams.

 

While rising sea levels will be far more devastating for the millions living in low-lying regions in the developing world, British coastal communities still need help to adapt. “Poor, densely populated, coastal mega-cities like Lagos [in Nigeria] are less able to invest in defences and cope with flooding,” Hall says. “But climate change will create many victims in the UK, too – and we do not have those excuses.”

 

The residents of Fairbourne never expected to be test cases for the capacity of climate change to tear a community apart, but in 26 years’ time they will witness the end of a village that has existed for more than a century. Mike Thrussell, the angling writer, takes a walk along the top of the darkening sea wall. The wind is searing, turning his skin red. He scans the line of homes below and searches for the right way to encapsulate the mood of the village. “It gives you an inner feeling of doom. It is despondency. Everything you do is futile,” he eventually says. “I cannot pass my home on to my son – it is lost. What have I worked for?”

 

But Thrussell knows their pain will soon be felt by others on Britain’s rapidly changing coastline. “It is not just a Fairbourne problem. You’ve got all these other communities in Wales and England – where the hell are they going to go?”

[Red Phoenix]

Could be good if more unions around the world did this : German Labor Union Urges 2 Million Members to Join Global Climate Strike

[Captain Turdseye]

I lad I know has gone down to this Extinction Rebellion thing, reckons he’s staying down there for the duration. Camping on the streets of London is not and will never be something I’d do but fair play to those taking part. I doubt it’ll change anything but I suppose it can’t make things any worse. How will the government respond, I hear you ask. 

 

 

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Boris Johnson has called on the protesters to abandon their "hemp-smelling bivouacs" and stop blocking the streets of London.

The Prime Minister described the demonstrators demanding action on climate change as "uncooperative crusties" who were holding up the traffic.

 

Mr Johnson was speaking at the launch in London of the third volume of Margaret Thatcher's biography by the former editor of The Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore.

He said the former prime minister had taken the issue of greenhouse gases seriously long before Greta Thunberg was born.

"I am afraid that the security people didn't want me to come along tonight because they said the road was full of uncooperative crusties and protesters all kinds littering the road," he said.

 

"They said there was some risk that I would be egged. And so I immediately asked the faint hearts in my private office, 'What would Margaret Thatcher do?'

"If she could take the extraordinary risk of sending a task force halfway around the world through tumultuous seas to recapture the Falklands, I think she would have crossed the road to speak at the Banqueting Hall."

 

The PM added: "I hope that when we go out from this place tonight and we are waylaid by importunate nose-ringed climate change protesters, we remind them that she was also right about greenhouse gases.

"The best thing possible for the education of the denizens of the heaving hemp-smelling bivouacs that now litter Trafalgar Square and Hyde Park would be for them to stop blocking the traffic and buy a copy of Charles's magnificent book so that they can learn about a true feminist, green and revolutionary who changed the world for the better."

 

Odious fucking turd. 

[sir roger]

Oh, the bravery involved in sending other people's sons to their death to boost your political career.

[Evelyn Tentions]

3 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

I lad I know has gone down to this Extinction Rebellion thing, reckons he’s staying down there for the duration. Camping on the streets of London is not and will never be something I’d do but fair play to those taking part. I doubt it’ll change anything but I suppose it can’t make things any worse. How will the government respond, I hear you ask. 

 

 

 

Odious fucking turd. 

Now many volumes does it take to say she was an evil cunt who declared war on the poor as well as Argentina?

[s(k)aturation]

3 hours ago, Evelyn Tentions said:

How many volumes does it take to say she was an evil cunt who declared war on the poor as well as Argentina

 

One large billboard atop the National Gallery, in Times New Roman, saying the above - that overlooks the "hemp-smelling bivouacs that now litter Trafalgar Square" - would probably speak volumes.

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

He couldn't be more Tory if he tried! He's probably currently arranging an illegal termination for the scullery maid, and a third class ticket for her voyage to New Amsterdam ((c) Frankie Boyle)!

[TheBitch]

Is that a Daily Mash article?

[Creator Supreme]

5 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Is that a Daily Mash article?

Sadly not, Johnson is beyond parody now!

[Captain Turdseye]

16 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Is that a Daily Mash article?

 

Close. Evening Standard. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

We need a population cull.  About 2/3s of us need to go to give the planet a chance to catch its breath. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Bagsy not being one of the culled.

[Remmie]

A mate's bird is a Tory, she think Boris is great because of his silly hair. When I was in hospital and they came to visit, I gave a spiel about direct ways in which Tory policy has affected my life and she just plain outright said I don't care about you or your family, as long as none of it affects mine. Classic Tory. 

 

What's worse is she used to vote Labour as a struggling single mother but "doesn't need to any more".

 

Also a Brexiteer who benefited from euro law being flown home on her Thomas Cook holiday during their liquidation.

[Mudface]

41 minutes ago, Remmie said:

A mate's bird is a Tory, she think Boris is great because of his silly hair. When I was in hospital and they came to visit, I gave a spiel about direct ways in which Tory policy has affected my life and she just plain outright said I don't care about you or your family, as long as none of it affects mine. Classic Tory. 

 

What's worse is she used to vote Labour as a struggling single mother but "doesn't need to any more".

 

Also a Brexiteer who benefited from euro law being flown home on her Thomas Cook holiday during their liquidation.

Need pics before we can properly judge her.

[Rico1304]

59 minutes ago, Remmie said:

A mate's bird is a Tory, she think Boris is great because of his silly hair. When I was in hospital and they came to visit, I gave a spiel about direct ways in which Tory policy has affected my life and she just plain outright said I don't care about you or your family, as long as none of it affects mine. Classic Tory. 

 

What's worse is she used to vote Labour as a struggling single mother but "doesn't need to any more".

 

Also a Brexiteer who benefited from euro law being flown home on her Thomas Cook holiday during their liquidation.

If they split up can you give her my number? 

[Champ]

14 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

I lad I know has gone down to this Extinction Rebellion thing, reckons he’s staying down there for the duration. Camping on the streets of London is not and will never be something I’d do but fair play to those taking part. I doubt it’ll change anything but I suppose it can’t make things any worse. How will the government respond, I hear you ask. 

 

 

 

Odious fucking turd. 

Respect to them. Something needs to make the government look up from its pathetic posturing and see the bigger picture. And in all of Johnson’s electioneering trying to buy off the country I’ve not seen a single mention of climate change and the destruction of our only home

[Anubis]

4 hours ago, Remmie said:

A mate's bird is a Tory, she think Boris is great because of his silly hair. When I was in hospital and they came to visit, I gave a spiel about direct ways in which Tory policy has affected my life and she just plain outright said I don't care about you or your family, as long as none of it affects mine. Classic Tory. 

 

What's worse is she used to vote Labour as a struggling single mother but "doesn't need to any more".

 

Also a Brexiteer who benefited from euro law being flown home on her Thomas Cook holiday during their liquidation.

 

Kill her and bury the body on one of the roundabouts. It’s the only decent thing to do.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

5 hours ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

We need a population cull.  About 2/3s of us need to go to give the planet a chance to catch its breath. 

 

Hopefully that Mars One project sees enough idiots booking a one way ticket to hell.