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1 minute ago, Pete said:

She was a highlight of the V remake too. 

She wasn't the character Diana was she? I've not seen it but I had a crush on Diana from the original V. 

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22 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

@dockers_strike got there before me, Firefly is a must watch. Joss Whedon's intro to TV and shamefully had the rug pulled by cancelling after the first season. But a movie was made to act as a finale - Serenity. Watch the series, then watch the movie and wonder how you managed to miss them.

Buffy the vampire slayer was before Firefly.

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Just now, manwiththestick said:

Buffy the vampire slayer was before Firefly.

I didn't know he did that. Makes pulling Firefly even harder to understand. 

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4 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Shit ratings wasn't it? Angel got canned for a similar reason. 

There are several reasons why Joss Whedon’s Firefly was canceled after just one season. Airing on Fox in 2002, Whedon’s sci-fi/western mashup tracked the misadventures of a ragtag group of smugglers aboard a spaceship called Serenity. Between its unique premise and unforgettable cast of characters, Firefly was generally a hit with both critics and viewers - at least those who saw it. The series maintains an incredibly loyal fanbase despite the fact that it was axed after only 11 of its 14 episodes were aired. To this day, Browncoats everywhere continue to hope for its triumphant return and even Fox seems open to the idea of a Firefly revival.

 

 

Thanks largely to high DVD sales in the wake of the show’s cancellation, Firefly was briefly resurrected with the 2005 movie, Serenity. The film gave audiences closure, but most fans still wanted more - though star Nathan Fillion feels one season was enough. Serenity did do a near-perfect job of wrapping up the story, but its two-hour runtime simply didn’t allow Whedon to grant all of the show’s amazing characters the sendoff they deserved.

 

One strike against Firefly from the beginning was Fox’s trigger happy approach to canceling shows when the numbers didn’t immediately meet expectations. Undeclared, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Arrested Development, and Wonderfalls are just a few of the network's many casualties. Whedon’s next venture, Dollhouse, also suffered a similar fate. Fox was clearly hoping for the next Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Angel, and when Firefly failed to deliver that, the network lost faith pretty quickly. In fact, there were struggles before the show even began, because executives were uncomfortable with Mal’s right-hand woman, Zoe (Gina Torres), and Serenity’s pilot, Wash (Alan Tudyk), being married. Thankfully, Whedon refused to budge on the issue.

 

Firefly was not off to an auspicious start, with Fox choosing to air the series on Friday night, which was considered a death slot. This might not be an issue for all networks, but Fox has canceled more than 30 shows that played on Friday evenings. Further complicating the issue, Fox didn't air Firefly’s episodes in the correct order. Feeling the second installment, “The Train Job”, would be a better beginning, the network chose to play that instead of the show’s actual pilot, which wouldn’t premiere until the end of Firefly’s run. Other episodes were aired out of order as well. Fox never understood the tone of the series, leading to advertisements that never managed to capture Firefly’s essence. However, it was the show’s abysmal ratings that acted as the final nail in its coffin.

 

It’s not surprising that Firefly didn’t perform well on Fox considering the many strikes against it from the start. With poor advertising, an inexplicable episode order, and its position in the infamous Friday night death slot, what other outcome could there have possibly been? It’s not as though the network even gave the series a chance to gain traction in later seasons. Of course, it’s not all bad. While Whedon had some incredible plans for future Firefly episodes, there are also one or two storylines that viewers should be grateful never saw the light of day. As it stands, there are 14 beloved episodes and one excellent film, which is more than many canceled series ever get. The show has also found new life in comics and books. Fans will always wonder what could’ve been and will likely not be giving up on a revival any time soon, but either way, Firefly will continue to live on.

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3 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

There are several reasons why Joss Whedon’s Firefly was canceled after just one season. Airing on Fox in 2002, Whedon’s sci-fi/western mashup tracked the misadventures of a ragtag group of smugglers aboard a spaceship called Serenity. Between its unique premise and unforgettable cast of characters, Firefly was generally a hit with both critics and viewers - at least those who saw it. The series maintains an incredibly loyal fanbase despite the fact that it was axed after only 11 of its 14 episodes were aired. To this day, Browncoats everywhere continue to hope for its triumphant return and even Fox seems open to the idea of a Firefly revival.

 

 

Thanks largely to high DVD sales in the wake of the show’s cancellation, Firefly was briefly resurrected with the 2005 movie, Serenity. The film gave audiences closure, but most fans still wanted more - though star Nathan Fillion feels one season was enough. Serenity did do a near-perfect job of wrapping up the story, but its two-hour runtime simply didn’t allow Whedon to grant all of the show’s amazing characters the sendoff they deserved.

 

One strike against Firefly from the beginning was Fox’s trigger happy approach to canceling shows when the numbers didn’t immediately meet expectations. Undeclared, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Arrested Development, and Wonderfalls are just a few of the network's many casualties. Whedon’s next venture, Dollhouse, also suffered a similar fate. Fox was clearly hoping for the next Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Angel, and when Firefly failed to deliver that, the network lost faith pretty quickly. In fact, there were struggles before the show even began, because executives were uncomfortable with Mal’s right-hand woman, Zoe (Gina Torres), and Serenity’s pilot, Wash (Alan Tudyk), being married. Thankfully, Whedon refused to budge on the issue.

 

Firefly was not off to an auspicious start, with Fox choosing to air the series on Friday night, which was considered a death slot. This might not be an issue for all networks, but Fox has canceled more than 30 shows that played on Friday evenings. Further complicating the issue, Fox didn't air Firefly’s episodes in the correct order. Feeling the second installment, “The Train Job”, would be a better beginning, the network chose to play that instead of the show’s actual pilot, which wouldn’t premiere until the end of Firefly’s run. Other episodes were aired out of order as well. Fox never understood the tone of the series, leading to advertisements that never managed to capture Firefly’s essence. However, it was the show’s abysmal ratings that acted as the final nail in its coffin.

 

It’s not surprising that Firefly didn’t perform well on Fox considering the many strikes against it from the start. With poor advertising, an inexplicable episode order, and its position in the infamous Friday night death slot, what other outcome could there have possibly been? It’s not as though the network even gave the series a chance to gain traction in later seasons. Of course, it’s not all bad. While Whedon had some incredible plans for future Firefly episodes, there are also one or two storylines that viewers should be grateful never saw the light of day. As it stands, there are 14 beloved episodes and one excellent film, which is more than many canceled series ever get. The show has also found new life in comics and books. Fans will always wonder what could’ve been and will likely not be giving up on a revival any time soon, but either way, Firefly will continue to live on.

Pity they didn't do the same with The Walking Dead.

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1 minute ago, Harry's Lad said:

Pity they didn't do the same with The Walking Dead.

If they'd played the episodes in the wrong order of TWD, that show would have lasted two episodes at most. Bonkers strategy. 

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On 27/03/2021 at 17:02, Shooter in the Motor said:

And Deadpool I think. I seem to recall having a major walking (yes, walking) problem during one of the scenes and it wasn't over Ryan Reynolds.

and was Jim Gordon’s wife in Gotham

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