Why are we so bad?

[ScouseAndy]

Serious question as im struggling to find the reasons at the moment.

 

Quality of players, bad tactics, motivation etc. etc. have all been touted.

 

But these reasons shouldn't apply to a team with some world class players and a highly successful manager who have recently been crowned champions of europe.

 

Don't understand where its all going wrong. :no

[Strontium]

Let me explain it like this:

 

You can put the best rugby union team in the world up against a shit rugby league side, and they'll still lose.

 

Similarly, you can put one of the top exponents of European-style football up against a workmanlike side playing English-style football, and the result will be the same.

 

That's it.

[ScouseAndy]

Thanks i'll sleep better now i know! ;)

 

Very poor again but never mind we will get it right eventually.

 

Just hope Gerrard doesnt start shouting his mouth off and kicking up the media circus again!

[dave u]

Let me explain it like this:

 

You can put the best rugby union team in the world up against a shit rugby league side, and they'll still lose.

 

Similarly, you can put one of the top exponents of European-style football up against a workmanlike side playing English-style football, and the result will be the same.

 

That's it.

 

 

Thats a damn good analogy that.

[Rashid]

Thats a damn good analogy that.

 

Which means what Dave? More English players? Quicker players? More fight?

[dave u]

Which means what Dave? More English players? Quicker players? More fight?

 

 

I dunno, all of the above maybe. I don't know what the problem is, I just hope to God Rafa does, else we're fucked.

[Rashid]

I dunno, all of the above maybe. I don't know what the problem is, I just hope to God Rafa does, else we're fucked.

 

I think the answer is new players, so we are fucked until January. How we need an Owen now.

[Guest Gazmo25]

I have put this in other posts in the past but I think the players attitude is at fault here. I honestly think that some of the players in the team switch off whenever we play a team that we should be beating. I have thought about it for a while and whenever we play teams who are better than us we always put a good performance in and at times outplay them. Prime example of thinking that teams are beneath us and we will stroll to victory is Burnley last year. Traore would never have done what he did in a league game and the likes of Biscan and Nunez couldn't have made it clearer that they thought they were too good to be involved in a game like that. It's happening too often to be a coincidenence and the question is what can Rafa do about that?

[Guest Gazmo25]

I think the answer is new players, so we are fucked until January. How we need an Owen now.

 

Rash you need to let this Owen thing go mate. I have put posts on giving Parry stick recently but agreed 100 percent with not going up to what Real wanted (and besides, don't think we have the money to either)

[chrisbonnie]

i doubt Ac Milan would lose to Crystal Palace

 

we lacked bottle tonight, and couldnt hit the target to boot

[George Costanza]

Guts & desire would be a start.

[Strontium]

Maybe we need to augment our Spanish coaching staff with some coaches who understand the English game inside-out? It's worth noting that our domestic form has suffered significantly since Sammy Lee left.

[Bellflower]

I think the answer is new players, so we are fucked until January. How we need an Owen now.

The answer is you play to your strengths and stick at it until you're forced to make a change. I think Rafa has got to question his rotation policy. If you play in a team that is winning you don't get tired or injured. Fact.........

[Rashid]

Maybe we need to augment our Spanish coaching staff with some coaches who understand the English game inside-out? It's worth noting that our domestic form has suffered significantly since Sammy Lee left.

 

Whatever team Sammy coaches seems to play a dog of war style football. I'd love to see Roy Evans back.

[FidelMurphy]

The failure to address the obvious shortcomings in our squad over the summer has to be a major factor. The lack of a goal scorer has to affect the rest of the teams confidence as some decent performances earlier on in the season could of seen us go on a decent run if we could converted some of the chances we were creating.

[ScouseAndy]

I don't like the rotation stuff at all.

 

For instance a tired finnan is better than josemi while a tired Carragher is still our best defender.

 

You always should play your best 11. At least there are a few games less for people to whinge about tiredness now!

[Guest Gazmo25]

Maybe we need to augment our Spanish coaching staff with some coaches who understand the English game inside-out? It's worth noting that our domestic form has suffered significantly since Sammy Lee left.

 

To be fair though Strontium, he was there for all of Evans and Houllier and in all that time we only looked like winning a couple of times. And we had shocking results under both Evans and Houllier.

[redjohn]

Whatever team Sammy coaches seems to play a dog of war style football. I'd love to see Roy Evans back.

 

As a player?

[BENIRL]

Raffa has not got to grip with the the english style of play at all.

[RoboRiise]

I reckon Strontium Dog might be onto something with the rugby league / union analogy - maybe we could try putting 13 men out? *

 

As for what we need at the moment, I reckon some bollocks would be a start.

 

* Although if "the league team would win" I suppose we should start with nine...

[Kurt]

It`s all Josemi`s fault!

 

;)

[MLB]

Just posted this the other thread before I saw this one:

 

Whilst I'm not arsed about us going out of a competition like the Carling Cup, I am very much arsed about the way our club is perceived and the way our players go about representing the club on the pitch. Tonight was a truly dire performance from a bunch of players who just didn't have the balls for the fight, and that is simply not acceptable for Liverpool Football Club. We are a shambles right now, and certain players really need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask some serious questions about their "performance" on the pitch.

 

Here is what needs to be addressed, in my opinion.

 

1) Passing. Our passing is woeful. Nobody in the side bar Gerrard uses the ball well, and that isn't helped by a consistent lack of movement in the final third.

 

2) Attitude. I don't just mean the fact that certain players are going through the motions and failing to contribute, I mean the attitude that they are sent out onto the pitch with. They need motivating, BADLY. You can have all the tactical instructions in the world, but if you don't actually start playing until you're a goal down what the fuck use are they?

 

3) Does anybody know the Spanish for "shooting practice".

 

 

That's all I've got to say.

[RoboRiise]

They need motivating BADLY

 

I thought they...

 

Nah, cheap shot :$

[MLB]

I thought they...

 

Nah, cheap shot :$

 

 

Hey, you edited my comma out! :tease:

[RoboRiise]

Last edited by MLB : Yesterday at 10:57 PM

 

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