Palace thread...

[drewy]

So, you're omnipotent now too? Experience is a subjective thing and neither you or I can impose how somebody should or shouldn't feel. It's got nothing to do with a bleeding heart and everything to do with psychological makeup being a complex process. I never once implied that Crouch was the most hard done to person in the world, he isn't, but that doesn't exclude what happens to him. We are the sum of our past experiences.

 

Dave, the right or wrongs are irrelevant mate. He HAS to get over this, get his head down and push on. If he goes into one then the gobshites have won, end of story!

 

He is tall, so what? It's not a disease or a condition, he's a healthy bloke on a decent wedge who has a lot to be thankful for. I'm sure he'll prove them wrong.

[BENIRL]

Peter Crouch has probably been proving people wrong all his life and lets hope he has the confidence to continue to do so.

[Nunavut Patrick]

No it isn't, having worked with the disabled I know what Crouch suffered is a picnic compared with what some face daily. He's tall, well fuckin diddums, the way some of you are running round like Guardian social-workers you'd thionk he was John Merrick. He's tall - get over it.

 

 

I am not a freak....I am a striker....

[Dirk]

I spent a couple of years working in the rehab ward of a spinal injuries unit. All were fit people prior to an accident, and before going back out into world all had to be hardened to the fact people were going to stare and occasionally they would face discrimination. But, yes, we had to impose a different mindset on them otherwise some may suffer despression or low self-esteem. Some were naturally cocky, others not so. Some may call it tough love but it was really a gradual conditioning.

 

That's their experience, and the only experience anybody ever understands properly is their own. There's no such thing as a league of suffering where only those who are the hardest done to are allowed to feel bad about things. People might be able to rationalise their experience and see that they aren't all that hard done to but that doesn't mean they make an emotional connection with it. There's environmental, biological and genetic/evolutionary factors which shape an individual's psychological robustness. I have the utmost sympathy for the people that you worked with but that doesn't mean their horrific experience disqualifies others from feeling bad about things. I hope to work one day with people who suffer from brain damage. I am a student psychologist and my aim is to specialise in Neuropsychology.

[Dirk]

Dave, the right or wrongs are irrelevant mate. He HAS to get over this, get his head down and push on. If he goes into one then the gobshites have won, end of story!

 

He is tall, so what? It's not a disease or a condition, he's a healthy bloke on a decent wedge who has a lot to be thankful for. I'm sure he'll prove them wrong.

 

 

I know what you're saying. Maybe I'm been overly zealous in my approach to this debate and extreme in my analysis. I am not for one minute implying that Crouch is the worst done person in the World, as I have said, he's nothing like it. However, he does have a right to feel shit about things; we don't own his emotions. He does need to get over it, you're right. The solution is goals.

[Nunavut Patrick]

That's their experience, and the only experience anybody ever understands properly is their own. There's no such thing as a league of suffering where only those who are the hardest done to are allowed to feel bad about things. People might be able to rationalise their experience and see that they aren't all that hard done to but that doesn't mean they make an emotional connection with it. There's environmental, biological and genetic/evolutionary factors which shape an individual's psychological robustness. I have the utmost sympathy for the people that you worked with but that doesn't mean their horrific experience disqualifies others from feeling bad about things. I hope to work one day with people who suffer from brain damage. I am a student psychologist and my aim is to specialise in Neuropsychology.

 

Can you have a word with Hermes? Or is pedantry and delusions of grandeur in another subfield?

[drewy]

I know what you're saying. Maybe I'm been overly zealous in my approach to this debate and extreme in my analysis. I am not for one minute implying that Crouch is the worst done person in the World, as I have said, he's nothing like it. However, he does have a right to feel shit about things; we don't own his emotions. He does need to get over it, you're right. The solution is goals.

 

I don't understand half your Psychologist language anyway mate. ;)

 

I just console myself that if I started talking about Bow's notation, partial fractions or bending moments of a beam, you'd be equally clueless. :whistle:

[Dirk]

I don't understand half your Psychologist language anyway mate. ;)

 

I just console myself that if I started talking about Bow's notation, partial fractions or bending moments of a beam, you'd be equally clueless. :whistle:

 

 

Most of what we learn states the obvious and academics attach hifalutin descriptions to inflate their ego.

[drewy]

Most of what we learn states the obvious and academics attach hifalutin descriptions to inflate their ego.

 

Just as I thought.

[Nunavut Patrick]

I think therefore I am.

 

Or as kman would put it:

 

I stink therefore I am.

[Dirk]

I think therefore I am.

 

Or as kman would put it:

 

I stink therefore I am.

 

Class. Except Cartesian Dualism sucks.

[Nunavut Patrick]

Yeah, but Artesian wells rule. A lovely source of fresh groundwater.

[Red Nick]

just watched the highlighs and the one thing stood out from this game is the strikers got more chances and more importantly more service in this game than all the previous PL games put together, morientes was bad and Crouch lacked confidence, so maybe the future is Garcia and Ciise