Parry Speaks

[MLB]

He took his eye off the ball because of the Owen situation, it's as simple as that. He was gambling on everything coming together in the last few days, and absolutely nothing did. Owen lost his nerve, Cisse clearly didn't want to go anywhere, Stelios and Solano were probably tired of being pissed around all summer, and Simao was a desperate attempt to save face which didn't come off. It's mostly Parry's fault, but Rafa has to share part of the blame too I think.

[Anny Road]

What is this clamour to spend money all about and where does it come from.

Throwing vast amounts of cash around is not always a means of ensuring long term sucesss.

Look at leeds blackburn etc.

In our most productive years we relied on sharp scouting and a good reserve set up whilst the likes of united bought every superstar they could get there hands on. One look in both clubs trophy cabinet in those years would tell you who got the balance right.

When united started to develop the youth system they brought through the likes of Beckham Scholes etc the success then started to follow.

I would have liked a few players more in over the summer but I personally am not going to shed any tears that we did not spend 20+ million on Owen and the rest.

We have a good squad filled with world class players, one of the worlds best coaches and a huge stable fan base. Not to forget we are European champions. Lets enjoy the season ahead and support the team with passion.

[dave u]

For me its not about throwing money around, its about bringing in someone for a position in which we have no specialist player at the club.

 

Whether we got Simao for £14m, Figo on a free or Solano for £2m, it didn't matter. We just needed someone to fill that position. We chose to bring in nobody, and now have to muddle through until January until re-enforcements arrive.

 

In january I expect the likes of Simao and Gonzalez to come in, but who knows what kind of position we will be in by then. Its a massive gamble we've taken.

[terry mac]

injuries permitted we should be able to cope until the jan window, our first 14 without injuries should keep us in touch till then, but yes there is gamble and that gamble is having an injury free first half of the season

[redrosetints]

Load of bollocks from Parry. After a summer of dithering we've ended up with what?

 

1. A less potent strike force

2. Better midfield back-up, but not first choice

3. Possibly a better keeper

 

Has any other club spent £20m on such a futile attempt at strengthening?

 

1. Er no, we've got a fit cisse and a striker who scored more in half a season in a relegated club than our head down, run up his own backside Baros. (Actually I liked Baros, but he was very frustrating and ultimatley failed to deliver when given the chance)

2. Zenden and Momo for Smicer and Biscan, more than better backup both capable of starting and delivering.

3. Definatly a better keeper. Reina is up there with Cech.

 

Plus we've restructured the whole squad down to the reserves, but getting rid of those who were clogging things up, like Salif, and bringing in some keen and hunger kids. Baragan and Idriaz are very good mate.

 

I realise this must be a 'doom and gloom' thread. As opposed to an optimistic thread, but plurease. Everyone goes on about Figo like he was an nailed on 100% game winner, yet I seem to remeber that opinion was very much divided as to wherther we should have got him. Also if we'd gone in for Solano or Stelios in May, these exaqct same people would have shouted 'lack of ambition'.

[Al Campbell]

Hopefully Pongolle will be able to do a job on the right wing until we get cover in January. The worrying thing is cover for Carra and Sami. Josemi's already talking on the offal site about how he'll play more games this season.

[redrosetints]

Hopefully Pongolle will be able to do a job on the right wing until we get cover in January. The worrying thing is cover for Carra and Sami. Josemi's already talking on the offal site about how he'll play more games this season.

 

Well however optimistic I feel about srecent events, I do worry about that. the only ray of hope is that he played Cb NOT Rb for malaga in his last season there, and he didnt look too bad the other night when he played there, though the opposition werent the best I grant you ! Its a case of fingers crossed, and he cant be worse than the 'long pork sausage' can he ?

[Al Campbell]

His positioning is still woeful though. I'd rather see Whitbread given a go than Josemi. Who knows, maybe one of the kids we've signed will develop quicker than expected and make the breakthrough.

[dave u]

Miki Roque has looked good so far, but its very early days and he's only 17. I want to see what Hobbs is like in defence, but he's been in midfield every game so far. Godwin is another who I want to see play at the back.

 

Centre back is such a key position though I can't see any of them getting a chance soon. Experience counts for a lot at centre back.

[cochcaer]

His positioning is still woeful though. I'd rather see Whitbread given a go than Josemi.

 

He's an interesting one Whitbread, never seems to impress the ressie watchers but rarely puts a foot wrong when given a runout in the first team.

 

I'd worry about Josemi's positional radar at centreback and Djimi has a touch of the Phil Babbs about him; looks good then whoops.

[Guest JOJO]

Spent Net £5M and got rid of 11..... we possible haven't spent a penny when you take into account wages.

 

 

But don`t forget the rest of the package - wages.

 

No further payments

Biscan

Diao (possible we have to pay some of his)

Diouf (YES! he was expensive!!)

Bruno (possible we have to pay a small amount)

Kirkland

Le Tallec

Welsh (possible pay some money!)

Baros

Smicer

Nunez

 

New payments

Gerrard (increased......)

Riise (increased a bit)

Warnock (increased)

Zenden - probably expensive since he was a free agent

Crouch

Momo

Reina

All the youngsters ( no big expense though...)

 

SO - without knowing their exact payment, ten players are out of our list and four plus som youngsters are new (probably cheap though), and some get more paid this season....but the total have to be reduced quite a bit...or am I wrong?

 

So, why couldn`t we afford Figo, £1 mill for Real (reducing their debt) and we could have signed him before Inter started talking about him....

 

Our financial situation has to be much better now than in May...or? If someone has exact figures I would welcome to see them...

[Guest JOJO]

For me its not about throwing money around, its about bringing in someone for a position in which we have no specialist player at the club.

 

Whether we got Simao for £14m, Figo on a free or Solano for £2m, it didn't matter. We just needed someone to fill that position. We chose to bring in nobody, and now have to muddle through until January until re-enforcements arrive.

 

In january I expect the likes of Simao and Gonzalez to come in, but who knows what kind of position we will be in by then. Its a massive gamble we've taken.

 

 

I don`t see how it would be possible for Mark G to get a permit then?? If not Chile suddenly start winning matches, their next is against Brazil in Brazil....

 

We I keep my fingers rossed for Simao....it sounds like he really wants to play in our shirt, with no 11.....

[BigMike]

"We didn't leave things too late because the deals we wanted were completed early during the summer and at that stage we were content we'd achieved four out of four on our list of targets."

 

A question then....was Sissoko on our list of targets?? From what I remember RAFA saw he was available when he read it in the paper and then we went after him. That would not have been the case had he been on our list of targets, or at least I would hope not!

[redrosetints]

Miki Roque has looked good so far, but its very early days and he's only 17. I want to see what Hobbs is like in defence, but he's been in midfield every game so far. Godwin is another who I want to see play at the back.

 

Centre back is such a key position though I can't see any of them getting a chance soon. Experience counts for a lot at centre back.

 

Yes, why get these lads in and then play hobbs as a mid and Godwin as a striker ?

 

That is strange, although I guess they are only young and still capable of chanign position.

 

Certianly Baragan abnd Idraiz look good, the rest we'll have to wait and see, but Id hope that one of these could be our Fabregas, ie a player who comes in at a very young age and looks the biz. Barragan looks the most likely at the mo.

[MLB]

Whitbread looks good at playing the "second" centre half, if you know what I mean. Kind of like how Steph was to Sami - cleaning up the second balls and keeping things simple and tidy. I'd like to see him show a bit more confidence in his passing and in bringing the ball out of defense, but that will all come with first team experience. Hopefully he gets the nod ahead of Josemi this season and we'll get more of an impression of what he can and can't do.

[Paul]

If we put in anyone other than Djimi (when fit) at centre-half to rest Carra or Sami, I'll be well pissed off. I'd seriously have a crack at converting Djimi to first choice centre-half now - at Sami's expense. He responded brilliantly to Rafa's backing last season and Carra, with his excellent concentration and vocal leadership, is the ideal player to help him along. Sure, he'll need a lot of work, not least on his heading, but why spend £7m - £10m on a player in Jan if we could improve from within the squad?

 

The only thing we'd lack at the back with a Carra/Djimi partnership is someone truly comfortable on the ball. However, between Carra's much improved skills in that area, and Xabi's position as the deepest of the three central midfielders, I don't think it's a priority: Carra to Xabi, and off we go.

[Jari37]

and you normally sound so sane. I do appreciate your optimism about all this, and hey let's not be a bunch of knee-jerk reactionaries as fans, but I can't understand how you can be feeling quite so chipper regarding the running of our club at the moment.[/QU How can u diss the way the club is run because we missed out on a couple of players on deadline day.If u are that aggrieved why don't you go and support chelsea.

 

well, my aggressive little friend, I really have no idea as to how you worked out that because I felt a bit frustrated by our club's behaviour towards the end of this summer, I should therefore go and support chelsea. I don't think what I said was that unreasonable - you however sound like a complete fucking idiot. oh well, there it is.

[redrosetints]

If we put in anyone other than Djimi (when fit) at centre-half to rest Carra or Sami, I'll be well pissed off. I'd seriously have a crack at converting Djimi to first choice centre-half now - at Sami's expense. He responded brilliantly to Rafa's backing last season and Carra, with his excellent concentration and vocal leadership, is the ideal player to help him along. Sure, he'll need a lot of work, not least on his heading, but why spend £7m - £10m on a player in Jan if we could improve from within the squad?

 

The only thing we'd lack at the back with a Carra/Djimi partnership is someone truly comfortable on the ball. However, between Carra's much improved skills in that area, and Xabi's position as the deepest of the three central midfielders, I don't think it's a priority: Carra to Xabi, and off we go.

 

Djimbo is defo the prototype CB. Due to his size and pace, but a favourite of mine, Danny Gabbidon (bloody Cole and his deflected goals :sick: ) is the same and has one problem. Concentration. But, like you say Paul, he responded so well last season that he could eventually fill that 'new Desailly' tag yet. Id certainly have him as No1 backup for cb. At least until he proves he cant do it.

[Big Ig]

Load of shite that from Parry, you fucked up fella...... you had 4 months with the status as Euro Champs and all you could muster was players that would have come to us whatever our position. Joker.

You'd so buy the S*n if you weren't a Liverpool fan... reactionary doesn't come close to describing you, fella, you're like a burning dog in a fireworks factory! Life isn't black and white, and what happened this summer will be nowhere near as simplistic as you portray. Take a step back, breathe deeply, then relaaaax. Now, engage brain this time...

[chorlton]

eeek, can this be real?

 

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/sport/sport4.shtml

 

surely they won't impose that?

[Kopite]

eeek, can this be real?

 

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/sport/sport4.shtml

 

surely they won't impose that?

 

Transfer window is now closed mate so they haven't got anything to write about. I take it at the moment some Z-list celebrity isn't cheating on his wife with some Page 3 slut hence stories like this appearing.

 

The Sunday's are normally the place for ludicrous transfer gossip but the window is now closed so they haven't got anything to write about, especially with Beckham not changing his haircut/having a new tattoo yesterday.

 

Also the News of the World is the Sunday edition of The Sun.

[Rashid]

Hpw the fuck did you see "Parry Speaks" thread started by me then if you have me on ignore? LOL - but I must its great not having you chasing me all day!

[Big Ig]

Hpw the fuck did you see "Parry Speaks" thread started by me then if you have me on ignore? LOL - but I must its great not having you chasing me all day!

Who you talking to??????

[Kopite]

Who you talking to??????

 

I think he's referring to me. I think he is missing me and thereby judging by what he has just posted his "fit bird" is actually a brickie called Bert who has left him because he has finished the work on Rashid's bedsit (where he enjoys a really "exciting life" apparently hence why he is always on the internet).

[Guest FarmersBoy]

I'm interested that in this thread, and so many others like it, the fact of us being European Champions is playing such a big part in whether we're signing players or not. And, if I remember correctly, the initial post made the point that most of the players we got would have signed even if we hadn't been European champions. But it made that point as though it were a bad thing.

 

Surely that's a good thing? It means those players are more committed and less likely to leave when they want, rather than when we want them to.

 

I don't want Zidane/Robinho/Ronaldinho/Henry/Joaquim etc. etc.

 

I'll go even further and say that anyone who does want signings like that surely misunderstands LFC and what we're about. If we were to sign any of those players, they'd be with us a season or two, and then, if successful, they'd be off to Madrid/Inter/Milan/Barca etc..... That's no way to build a squad. Yes, from time to time when successful we paid top dollar for no risk players: Dalglish, Walsh, Beardsley, Aldridge, Rush (on his return) - I've not put Barnes in there because I defy anyone to tell me he was 'no risk' at the time of signing him. In the main, however, we've signed people who aren't that well-known - sometimes for high fees (Souness for example). But one thing that each of those players had in common was that LFC was the pinnacle of their club playing ambition.

 

Now I know times change, but the creed of our club is paramount here. I don't want us to become a team that prevails by big-money signings - even when we've just won the CL. To make them, you've got to get the big money, and get the big money you've got to earn it, which in turn means more Stevie G duvet covers etc., maybe even a rich benefactor to take a share and treat the club like a trinket.

 

We must try to prevail through parsimony: Rafa's scouting network.

 

Given the alternative, I'm happy Parry's kept his cash in his pocket.