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thanks, thats pretty interesting, its bollocks, but its interesting bollocks! ;)

 

The only problem i have with that answer is the conciseness of it, now you have answered me in one post, the crouch shit will start again.

 

One final thing, I was listening in on some muslims having a conversation about islam in the pub on the weekend (they were only drinking coke btw). It turned into a blazing row and I couldnt beleive what they were argueing about. One of them said that Mohammed was the greatest figure in the Islamic world, and the other one came out with this... "no, bollocks, Mohammed is was a lanky streak of piss" couldnt beleive my ears I tell you.

 

:D fantastic

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4738361.stm

 

I See that BBC have Newcastle as the "mystery" interested English club - not a single fact in the report though and I would be amazed if he does go there.

 

I like to think that the mystery club is us, I know not everyone would have him make, but lets be honest he'd be a terrific addition to the squad

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4738361.stm

 

I See that BBC have Newcastle as the "mystery" interested English club - not a single fact in the report though and I would be amazed if he does go there.

 

I like to think that the mystery club is us, I know not everyone would have him make, but lets be honest he'd be a terrific addition to the squad

 

Sourpuss was on Five Live at lunchtime going on about Owen, so I dont think its that mysterious if it is...

 

Do you think Owen would want to go to the Toon ? i cant see it.

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Sourpuss was on Five Live at lunchtime going on about Owen, so I dont think its that mysterious if it is...

 

Do you think Owen would want to go to the Toon ? i cant see it.

 

depends what his prioritites are this season ie to play regular first team football or win trophies. If he came here he'd be lucky to start 50% of the games as its obvious Crouch would be chosen ahead of him in most of the away games and he would also face very stiff competition from Morientes, Garcia and Cisse but at toon he'd be first pick every week

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depends what his prioritites are this season ie to play regular first team football or win trophies. If he came here he'd be lucky to start 50% of the games as its obvious Crouch would be chosen ahead of him in most of the away games and he would also face very stiff competition from Morientes, Garcia and Cisse but at toon he'd be first pick every week

 

Well Id assume that since he left us cos he wanted to win things and play at the highest level, he wasnt going to start playing for the toon who arent even in the UEFA yet.

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Yep, this is what people seem to be forgetting re: the Owen situation. He's leaving to play week-in, week-out first-team football and safeguard his place in Eriksson's starting eleven (nothing wrong with that, btw) - whereas with us, he'd just be another option, and one who would be left on the bench far more frequently than I'd imagine he'd be happy with.

 

In reality, him coming back here wouldn't satisfy either party - with Newcastle, he'd be playing in a decent-ish team every Saturday (or Sunday, should they get through to the UEFA). In terms of the England situation, that's got to beat bench-warming at the Bernebau OR Anfield.

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Tuesday, 2nd August 2005

Owen's the Real deal

Stuart Mathieson

 

 

OWEN: Move?OLD Trafford and Anfield goalscoring greats are united in their belief that Michael Owen would cement Manchester United's firepower as the best in the Premiership.

 

Not even champions Chelsea's unlimited cash could buy supremacy in the goals department if the Reds land the unsettled former Kop idol from Real Madrid.

 

Interest in the England striker is high, with Newcastle today coming out and staking their interest in signing the World Cup star.

 

And despite the bitter rivalry that exists between United and Liverpool fans, Merseyside legend Ian Rush believes the England hitman wouldn't baulk at switching to Old Trafford after his unhappy spell at the Bernabeu over the last 12 months.

 

And Rushie should know because Sir Alex Ferguson almost tempted him into doing the same thing in 1988.

 

The Welshman was enduring an unsettled time in Turin with Juventus when he decided he needed to return home after just 16 months in Italy following a move from Liverpool and it was Fergie who offered him the first escape route.

 

"Alex Ferguson rang me up at Juventus to see if I wanted to come back to England and join United," Rush said.

 

"Despite the great time I had had at Anfield and my feelings for the club all players are professionals and will go to the place that provides the best platform for their future.

 

"I wanted to come home from Italy and United was an option. I would have gone to Old Trafford without any doubts. I wouldn't have had any qualms about it.

 

"The fact is despite all the rivalry business, if you do your stuff you'll win the fans over.

 

"It didn't happen for me because Kenny Dalglish then came in and offered me the chance to go back to Liverpool which I took. But if they hadn't then I would have accepted Alex Ferguson's invite.

 

"Michael Owen will view the situation similarly. He is a professional and is focused on scoring goals. If Michael were to sign for United then nobody would be more focused on scoring goals for Manchester United than Michael Owen.

 

"One thing for certain is that he'll improve any squad he goes to. United have a quality striker's department already installed at Old Trafford in Ruud van Nistelrooy, Wayne Rooney, Louis Saha and Alan Smith but Michael would still improve that. He's a fabulous goalscorer.

 

"It would be the one department where United would certainly be able to boast a better potential than Chelsea.

 

"Chelsea's top scorer last season was midfielder Frank Lampard! They don't have a 25-30-goal-a-season striker but if United landed Owen they would have two in him and van Nistelrooy and possibly more in Rooney and Saha."

 

John Aldridge used to be a scoring thorn in United's side for Liverpool in the 80s and 90s like Rush and he's convinced that Owen could even outshoot United's all-time top European scorer Ruud van Nistelrooy in the scoring charts.

 

"I think Owen would score as many if not more than van Nistelrooy for United," Aldo said.

 

"So if you linked him up with van Nistelrooy and have Owen's England partner Wayne Rooney in there as well then it would quite simply be a case of defenders beware.

 

Phenomenal

 

"It would be a phenomenal link-up. Owen is a goalscorer and will score them wherever he goes. He may have had a tough time at Real Madrid because of not starting that many matches but just look at his goals ratio, it is still fantastic.

 

"It would give United a tremendous advantage in their bid to knock Chelsea off the top.

 

"Chelsea's power base is not in their forwards. It is their defence and midfield that gives them their strength.

 

"Up front they are not great but if United had Owen, Rooney, van Nistelrooy, Saha and Smith you couldn't touch them for quality up front."

 

Aldridge was the target for United fans' abuse when he played for Liverpol but, like former Reds star Frank Stapleton, believes the 12 months away from the Premiership in La Liga will have eased that dilemma.

 

"It's a bit sad about the bitterness between the two sets of fans. It's not nice but at the end of it all I think fans forget after a while," John added.

 

"Twelve months on if Michael Owen has scored goals for Manchester United his Liverpool connection will have been forgotten.

 

"He'd get some grief going back to Anfield for the first time. But the fact is, Michael went through all the right channels when he left Anfield. He didn't walk out on them and the club got money for him so there isn't animosity carried over from that.

 

"It might have been hell if he'd made the straight switch from Anfield to Old Trafford but this would be different.

 

"United supporters would very soon realise what a smashing bloke he is and they'd be buying a fantastic goalscorer. It would be a great coup for Sir Alex Ferguson and the fans would soon recognise that."

 

Lou Macari, however, believes the transfer could be doomed to failure.

 

"Owen is a great striker and would score goals for United obviously but I don't see the switch happening," the former Old Trafford strike hero said.

 

"I am not sure the club are ready yet to ship out one of the strikers they already have and you certainly would be overloaded with five in that department.

 

"Michael has had a frustrating time at Real Madrid because he's not been used every week. I cannot imagine him wanting him to swap the same situation over there for one over here.

 

"Despite his impressive pedigree, he wouldn't be a certain starter every week at Old Trafford yet that must be what he is looking for after the year he has had in Spain.

 

"He won't want to join another long queue of strikers."

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Souness is building a very good side at Newcastle. His buys have all been impressive, and I reckon Owen could do a lot worse than join them - especially as he'd be playing every game. Trouble is, I'm not sure Souness knows how to get the best out of his players, so he might have to be content with a lack of European football in the short term.

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Souness is building a very good side at Newcastle. His buys have all been impressive, and I reckon Owen could do a lot worse than join them - especially as he'd be playing every game. Trouble is, I'm not sure Souness knows how to get the best out of his players, so he might have to be content with a lack of European football in the short term.

 

Not sure I'd agree that Craig Moore, Amdy Faye & Babayaro are that impressive really. Scott Parker's OK, and Emre has looked decent enough when I have seen him for Turkey though.

 

Be very surprised if Owen goes there. I guess if he does its confirmation that England is themost important thing to him, as it ceases to be about ambition.

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Yep, this is what people seem to be forgetting re: the Owen situation. He's leaving to play week-in, week-out first-team football and safeguard his place in Eriksson's starting eleven (nothing wrong with that, btw) - whereas with us, he'd just be another option, and one who would be left on the bench far more frequently than I'd imagine he'd be happy with.

 

In reality, him coming back here wouldn't satisfy either party - with Newcastle, he'd be playing in a decent-ish team every Saturday (or Sunday, should they get through to the UEFA). In terms of the England situation, that's got to beat bench-warming at the Bernebau OR Anfield.

 

there's a whole heap of diffence to him joining us and being given a fair chance to play (which i think he would) than being told to rot at madrid. he knows he's been pushed down the pecking order and that politics will keep him out of the team. in fact if he wants a good world cup, having 30 starts and 10 games from the bench for us would probably be perfect preparation - better than ebing used every match by the geordies ... and he can move home so him and his missus get the family support looking after the kid etc.

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there's a whole heap of diffence to him joining us and being given a fair chance to play (which i think he would) than being told to rot at madrid. he knows he's been pushed down the pecking order and that politics will keep him out of the team. in fact if he wants a good world cup, having 30 starts and 10 games from the bench for us would probably be perfect preparation - better than ebing used every match by the geordies ... and he can move home so him and his missus get the family support looking after the kid etc.

 

You might be right, but I think it's immaterial anyway – without wanting to sound like the ghost of Red Nick, I'd be very surprised if Rafa was interested.

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You might be right, but I think it's immaterial anyway – without wanting to sound like the ghost of Red Nick, I'd be very surprised if Rafa was interested.

 

yeah, i know what you mean. but perhaps there's pressure from parry, carra and gerrard to take him back. with TLT doing one to sunderland and baros likely to move - the forward line doesn't look as over loaded with players as it did a few weeks back.

 

i thought the same as you till yesterday but i was ficking round the radio last night and caught some bloke from the times (dunno what station it was) talking about owen. apparently owen writes for the times (i didn't know that) and this fella i think was his ghost writer. i just got the feeling (it was all man u driven talk), that perhaps he was lined up to come back here. the fella said something along the lines of, "although he (owen) needs to keep madrid happy and co-operate so they don't leave him with nowhere to go, it's not what madrid and man united want, it's what michael owen wants".

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You might be right, but I think it's immaterial anyway – without wanting to sound like the ghost of Red Nick, I'd be very surprised if Rafa was interested.

 

Are you a mindreader then?

 

Rafa's confidant perhaps? ;)

 

Did you bump into Paco in Aldi? ;)

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We could win the League if we got him, I cant see it happening though, sounds to good to be true.

 

If Baros goes and with Le T gone, we are short. We lack a real penalty box poacher, if he came back the whole place would lift another notch, especially as we are European Champions too. And from what I have heard, its just a matter of offloading Milan first.

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