Margaret Thatcher

[Remmie]

[cloggypop]

I went the pub and got Fiesta by The Pogues on. Grabbed a couple of mates on the way giving them the good news. Followed it up with Tramp The Dirt Down by Costello.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I went the pub and got Fiesta by The Pogues on. Grabbed a couple of mates on the way giving them the good news. Followed it up with Tramp The Dirt Down by Costello.

Headed up to The Casa. The place was bouncing and got pretty much drunk dry by the end of the night.

[Rorschach08]

I remember when I first found out she had died I punched the air and yelled 'FUCKING GET IN THERE' at the top of my lungs, everyone around me was disgusted, especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.

 

(yeah, I know everyone heard it at the time, still makes me laugh though) 

[Bjornebye]

First I heard was me mam txt me and it just said "the witch is dead". I lived in pompey at the time and most in the office were baffled at my shouts of "get iiiinnnnm slaaaaaaggggg"

 

Killing two birds with 1 stone

[AngryOfTuebrook]

A few years ago I was on a union march in London.  When the march went past the very place Thatcher had died, I thought a moment of solemn reflection was called for.

 

[Section_31]

The sad reality of course is that plenty of people these days either agree with her, or make her look positively liberal.

[Creator Supreme]

I remember when I first found out she had died I punched the air and yelled 'FUCKING GET IN THERE' at the top of my lungs, everyone around me was disgusted, especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.

 

(yeah, I know everyone heard it at the time, still makes me laugh though)

Love it!

[cloggypop]

The sad reality of course is that plenty of people these days either agree with her, or make her look positively liberal.

Rico actively votes for worse policies.

[Section_31]

Rico actively votes for worse policies.

 

I think the real damage she did was societal damage, a generation of people who think 'every man for himself' is the way it should work. You see that attitude everywhere now, from big business to the school run. It's undoubtedly led to the current mental health crisis and aspects of rising crime, communities can no longer 'self regulate' because in many respects they no longer exist. 

 

The whole 'if you don't own a home you're shit' is also a uniquely British phenomenon in Europe, nobody else gives a shit. That's squarely down to her. 

[Strontium]

The whole 'if you don't own a home you're shit' is also a uniquely British phenomenon in Europe, nobody else gives a shit. That's squarely down to her. 

 

Not sure how, as Britain has one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Europe. Only in Denmark, Germany, Austria and Switzerland are people less likely to own their own homes.

[cloggypop]

Are you actually defending Thatcher here, SD?

 

I know you love your arguments but kinell.

[Strontium]

Are you actually defending Thatcher here, SD?

I thought it was pretty clear that I was correcting a misconception. If I ever wrote anything inaccurate, I'd like people to point it out.

[cloggypop]

I thought it was pretty clear that I was correcting a misconception. If I ever wrote anything inaccurate, I'd like people to point it out.

I'm pointing out that you are choosing this joyous thread of celebrating Thatcher being dead to praise her.

[Bjornebye]

I thought it was pretty clear that I was correcting a misconception. If I ever wrote anything inaccurate, I'd like people to point it out.

Fuck off

[Strontium]

I'm pointing out that you are choosing this joyous thread of celebrating Thatcher being dead to praise her.

 

You're plain fucking weird.

 

"Oh, the sky is blue"

"No, it's night-time, it's black"

"Fuck off you, stop praising the sky"

[cloggypop]

 

 

You're plain fucking weird.

 

 

You are choosing this thread to do this in you odd blert.

[Boss]

I think the real damage she did was societal damage, a generation of people who think 'every man for himself' is the way it should work. You see that attitude everywhere now, from big business to the school run. It's undoubtedly led to the current mental health crisis and aspects of rising crime, communities can no longer 'self regulate' because in many respects they no longer exist. 

 

The whole 'if you don't own a home you're shit' is also a uniquely British phenomenon in Europe, nobody else gives a shit. That's squarely down to her. 

 

The selling off of all the council houses was catastrophic. She sold 250,000 council houses in the first 2 years of the scheme. We had 5.5 million council houses in the country to go between 55,000,000 people at the start of her tenure. We've now got 1.6 million to go between a population of 66,000,000. 

 

Housebuilding rates never recovered when she stopped building council houses in the 80's. House prices went up and up with no social housing being built to offset the rise. Now people can't afford to get on the housing ladder - hence Stronts saying Britain has one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Europe. It was all caused by her. 

[cloggypop]

Anyway, about time we had a song.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWm03wYBTbM

[s(k)aturation]

Not sure how, as Britain has one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Europe. Only in Denmark, Germany, Austria and Switzerland are people less likely to own their own homes.

 

 

I think home ownership will increasingly become a thing of the past, because of astronomical property prices compared with shit wage growth, day on day, week on week, month on month, year on year, decade on decade.

 

Hopefully that won't also eventually become the case with food, but who knows, it might.

 

Whether Thatcher was the pioneering uber cunt of greed, privilege, classism and selfishness, dunno, perhaps she was.

 

But coming on this thread to somehow maybe mitigate her, SD... I'd say you're on a hiding to nothing.

[Strontium]

But coming on this thread to somehow maybe mitigate her, SD... I'd say you're on a hiding to nothing.

I wasn't mitigating anything though. Just saying she didn't drive some uniquely mad rush for house ownership. Quite why it matters either way is beyond me. But there again, quite why anyone would remember that it's five years since an old woman died is mystifying in itself.

[s(k)aturation]

I wasn't mitigating anything though. Just saying she didn't drive some uniquely mad rush for house ownership. Quite why it matters either way is beyond me. But there again, quite why anyone would remember that it's five years since an old woman died is mystifying in itself.

 

 

Mate, I guess it's like we remember all types of things from the past, good and bad.

 

Rome 1977, Agincourt, the Berlin bunker, 1917 - why do we bother?

 

Who knows?  Who cares perhaps.

 

Me, I think remembering is good, useful and even important.

 

Churchill, an old cunt of a contradiction most of his life, occasionally sound-byted usefully, conveniently, relevantly and valuably enough nonetheless:

 

“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.”

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I wasn't mitigating anything though. Just saying she didn't drive some uniquely mad rush for house ownership. Quite why it matters either way is beyond me. But there again, quite why anyone would remember that it's five years since an old woman died is mystifying in itself.

She did drive some uniquely mad rush for home ownership.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/housingandhomeownershipintheuk/2015-01-22

 

Right To Buy (coupled with restrictions on Council house building) was probably the most far-reaching of all her divisive, destructive, deceptive policies. It's arguably the biggest reason the UK economy is structurally unsound and unjust.

[magicrat]

She got away with so much because of the Falklands victory which gave the kudos to take on the Unions . She would never have lasted had the Argies inflicted more serious losses . Blame Galtieri for being a shit dictator

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Margaret Hilda Thatcher.

 

Born in Grantham, 1925.

 

Died in London, 2013.

 

Sadly missed in Brighton, 1984.