Israel - A Rant

[Numero Veinticinco]

Waits for the ‘yeah, but Muslim kids are indoctrinated and you haven’t posted about that’ defence.

[Strontium]

Surely it's a better defence to point out that the translation is wrong.

 

Obviously the fact that people take videos with phony translations at face value does explain a lot.

[Bjornebye]

14 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Surely it's a better defence to point out that the translation is wrong.

 

Obviously the fact that people take videos with phony translations at face value does explain a lot.

Interesting. 

[skend04]

Anyone want to translate what's being said?

[SasaS]

My Hebrew is a bit rusty, but is this even an Israeli state school?

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, SasaS said:

My Hebrew is a bit rusty, but is this even an Israeli state school?

Nah I think it’s an ultra orthodox right wing area one. God knows what they’re saying but I imagine there are a lot of pissed off kids on both sides. The terrifying thing is precious videos posted where (in English) young adults have been saying vile things about Arabs (I’m sure it’s reciprocated) and these are the impressions millions of kids will be getting. Fuck religion 

[Kepler-186]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Nah I think it’s an ultra orthodox right wing area one. God knows what they’re saying but I imagine there are a lot of pissed off kids on both sides. The terrifying thing is precious videos posted where (in English) young adults have been saying vile things about Arabs (I’m sure it’s reciprocated) and these are the impressions millions of kids will be getting. Fuck religion 

My God’s bigger than your God

My God’s just in a different class

My God’s bigger than your God 

My God’ll kick your God’s ass! 
 

Enjoy it before ITV get it taken down again. 
 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Surely it's a better defence to point out that the translation is wrong.

 

Obviously the fact that people take videos with phony translations at face value does explain a lot.

I didn't know you spoke Hebrew? What's the correct translation? 

 

EDIT: I'll send it to my friend who is Israeli. 

 

EDIT 2: What does it explain? I'd have believed it if it was Arabic too. Why? Because this stuff happens a lot with extremism. 

 

EDIT 3: Was all fabricated or one or two words 'fabricated'? 

[Gnasher]

The real unedited version..

 

 

 

[Strontium]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

EDIT 3: Was all fabricated or one or two words 'fabricated'? 

 

I don't know how much of it has been made up. I just know that the bit where when the kids are asked what they feel when they met an Arab kid, they're not saying "I want to kill him" but rather "he wants to kill me". Obviously that's the most damning bit of the whole transcript.

[TheHowieLama]

 "he wants to kill me"

 

My guess is they would both feel like that. For good reason, it's a turf war.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 "he wants to kill me"

 

My guess is they would both feel like that. For good reason, it's a turf war.

You could call it a 'fair fight' only it's not. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

38 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I don't know how much of it has been made up. I just know that the bit where when the kids are asked what they feel when they met an Arab kid, they're not saying "I want to kill him" but rather "he wants to kill me". Obviously that's the most damning bit of the whole transcript.

That’s what one blog seems to have claimed. That couple of words. Either way, not some phoney translation. I’ll wait from a more reputable source that ‘israellygood’ blog. 

[Strontium]

7 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

That’s what one blog seems to have claimed. That couple of words. Either way, not some phoney translation. I’ll wait from a more reputable source that ‘israellygood’ blog. 

 

Yeah, just a "couple of words" that changes someone's fear of death into a homicidal mania. It's nothing, really.

 

I suppose John F. Kennedy was only hit by a couple of bullets too. The pussy.

 

Yeah, I know what you mean about reputable sources, I mean what could be more reputable than a dodgily subtitled video from an anonymous Twitter account.

 

Please do report back when you have confirmed with your buddy that me, "Israellycool" and the journalist responsible for the original video, were all correct.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

 

Please do report back when you have confirmed with your buddy that me, "Israellycool" and the journalist responsible for the original video, were all correct.

Woah, you claimed it wasn't reputable. You provide the evidence to back that claim up. John Kennedy was shot by a bullet, just like countless unarmed innocent Palestinians. 

[TheHowieLama]

Is there a Palestillyreallycool?

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Woah, you claimed it wasn't reputable. You provide the evidence to back that claim up. John Kennedy was shot by a bullet, just like countless unarmed innocent Palestinians. 

 

The video is legitimate. The translation isn't. Happy to help.

 

3 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is there a Palestillyreallycool?

 

Palestine and Israel mean the same thing. So... Israellycool?

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Palestine and Israel mean the same thing. 

"takes cover."

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

The video is legitimate. The translation isn't. Happy to help.

 

 

Palestine and Israel mean the same thing. So... Israellycool?

(citation needed) I know you struggle when actual evidence is presented to you and you cower away like the pointless flower in a shrubbery that you are but come on. There was more than just a line or two said in that that are disgusting. 

But I suppose I'm asking the same squirt who wouldn't condemn some truly evil and racist political statements so what am I expecting here? Nothing really, just not letting you get away with your in and out soundbites that are mostly a load of deflective bullshit. 

 

 

And as for the second line..... If that's so why are Israeli forces committing genocide against Palestinians? 

 

 

[SasaS]

And John Kennedy's brother was shot by a Palestinian so everything is connected again.

[Strontium]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

"takes cover."

 

Relax, it's just etymology.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Etymology

 

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The name 'Israel' (Hebrew: Yisraʾel, Isrāʾīl; Septuagint Greek: Ἰσραήλ, Israēl, 'El (God) persists/rules', though after Hosea 12:4 often interpreted as 'struggle with God') in these phrases refers to the patriarch Jacob who, according to the Hebrew Bible, was given the name after he successfully wrestled with the angel of the Lord.

 

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/palaestes

 

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Etymology

Borrowed from Ancient Greek παλαιστής (palaistḗs, “wrestler”)

 

Palestine = Land of the Wrestlers. Named after the native inhabitants of the region.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

 

Palestine = Land of the Wrestlers. Named after the native inhabitants of the region.

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

There is no relaxing in Israel, you know that.

[Jairzinho]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

There is no relaxing in Israel, you know that.

Those kids aren't going to shoot themselves.

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Those kids aren't going to shoot themselves.

Without getting too deep, in the current situation, a few probably will.