Israel - A Rant

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

Almost as if Hamas or one of the Islamist groups think it's a good thing.

Maybe. 

 

Or it might be their act of retaliation after even more innocent blood was she'd at the border at the weekend. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

Maybe. 

 

Or it might be their act of retaliation after even more innocent blood was she'd at the border at the weekend. 

Hamas couldn't give one fuck about anything other than Hamas, I reckon.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Hamas couldn't give one fuck about anything other than Hamas, I reckon.

That's assuming it was Hamas. The rocket was meant to be a crudely made rocket. Don't Hamas use Iranian rockets, according to the Tel Aviv reports? 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I can only guess at what his agenda is. But if he's going to ignore Palestinian protesters being killed by Hamas and only mention Palestinian protesters killed by Israel, then neutral observers are entitled to draw their own conclusions.

Neutral observers and yourself.

[Red Phoenix]

Off we go again. Maybe we can hope for another miracle like last time when nobody got killed during about 100 strikes? Fucking gutted that world governments let this shit carry on.

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

12 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Off we go again. Maybe we can hope for another miracle like last time when nobody got killed during about 100 strikes? Fucking gutted that world governments let this shit carry on.

 

 

They don’t let it. They fund and arm it. 

[Red Phoenix]

13 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

They don’t let it. They fund and arm it. 

Yeah I know ourselves and the US gov are funding/arming it, kind of lost hope with them unless there's changes at elections. Would be good if the UN could do something but with their broken system the US and/or UK would just veto it anyway. Maybe Sanders will be able to change things if he gets elected, and I suppose that leaves some hope. Not gonna help them now though obviously.

[Red Phoenix]

6 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

The situation is surely a long, long way beyond any need for false flags?

Forgot to say : thanks for recommending Method and Madness. Got it not long back and almost through it now. Had to have several breaks from reading it because it often winds me up reading about how sick the situation actually is, but it's good for detailing some of the past assaults on Gaza and learning more about what's happened over there.

 

Have got another Finkelstein book (Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict) and On Palestine by Chomsky and Pappe to read next. Would say I'm looking forward to reading them but I never am really when it comes to subjects like this, it's just good to learn/understand more.

[Bjornebye]

Cunts on both sides but mainly on the Israel side. They have been killing and bombing the Palestine side for ages. A solitary rocket gets fired back and the media have a massive want over it. Then you have got that murdering cunt Netanyahu basically saying that they are going to unleash hell in retaliation. 

 

Agendas? Fucking hell. yes. Massive agendas. Its a disgrace, I hate the media with so much passion its unreal. I see daily videos from war monitor etc on twitter of Israel troops beating young kids and women in the street or shooting them. Where is the worldwide outrage to that? Fucking nowhere because Israel won't allow it. Horrible cunts. 

[Jairzinho]

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Forgot to say : thanks for recommending Method and Madness. Got it not long back and almost through it now. Had to have several breaks from reading it because it often winds me up reading about how sick the situation actually is, but it's good for detailing some of the past assaults on Gaza and learning more about what's happened over there.

 

Have got another Finkelstein book (Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict) and On Palestine by Chomsky and Pappe to read next. Would say I'm looking forward to reading them but I never am really when it comes to subjects like this, it's just good to learn/understand more.

Think I read On Palestine about six months ago. Basically a conversation between Pappe, Chomsky and someone else whose name I've forgotten.

 

*googles*

 

Frank Barat.

[Red Phoenix]

America's biggest idiot has just signed an order recognising the Golan Heights as part of Israel as the bombing started too, with Netanyahu grinning away next to him. Pair of scum.

[SammyAftershave]

Hell isn't hot enough for that particular pair of malignant tumours.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

16 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Cunts on both sides but mainly on the Israel side. They have been killing and bombing the Palestine side for ages. A solitary rocket gets fired back and the media have a massive want over it. Then you have got that murdering cunt Netanyahu basically saying that they are going to unleash hell in retaliation. 

 

Agendas? Fucking hell. yes. Massive agendas. Its a disgrace, I hate the media with so much passion its unreal. I see daily videos from war monitor etc on twitter of Israel troops beating young kids and women in the street or shooting them. Where is the worldwide outrage to that? Fucking nowhere because Israel won't allow it. Horrible cunts. 

That's exactly it. 

 

The agenda is stop fucking murdering people and treating them like shit. And for the rest of the world to hold them to account instead of giving them a free pass. It's gone on for fucking years now. 

[SammyAftershave]

The fifty-first state of the USA.

[Red Phoenix]

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres is “gravely concerned” by the recent developments in Israel and the Gaza Strip and urges all sides to exercise maximum restraint, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-un/u-n-chief-concerned-by-israel-gaza-developments-urges-restraint-idUSKCN1R621H

 

Great job UN. That'll teach em.

[Bjornebye]

54 minutes ago, SammyAftershave said:

The fifty-first state of the USA.

[SammyAftershave]

Most of those 'settler' robbing bastards should fuck off back to the USA.

[Red Phoenix]

 

[SammyAftershave]

That's because it would be extremely anti-semitic if they did.

[SammyAftershave]

Neg off you boring tit.

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Erm... yeah they do?

[Red Phoenix]

51 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Erm... yeah they do?

Not when these assaults start they don't, and I think the first sentence in that tweet is the key to it. They don't usually take into account anything that happened before it or mention what issues the Palestinians might have that led them to launch the rockets in the first place.

 

It's not as if you usually read or hear journos saying something like "Israel hit by another rocket attack from Gaza, which comes after Israeli sniper fire continues," or see any headlines like that. You can see it way further down in the articles of some outlets, but it's almost an afterthought once they're done discussing the rocket attack, where it hit, who was or wasn't injured, what the Israeli gov said as a response, what might happen next, etc.

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Not when these assaults start they don't, and I think the first sentence in that tweet is the key to it. They don't usually take into account anything that happened before it or mention what issues the Palestinians might have that led them to launch the rockets in the first place.

 

It's not as if you usually read or hear journos saying something like "Israel hit by another rocket attack from Gaza, which comes after Israeli sniper fire continues," or see any headlines like that. You can see it way further down in the articles of some outlets, but it's almost an afterthought once they're done discussing the rocket attack, where it hit, who was or wasn't injured, what the Israeli gov said as a response, what might happen next, etc.

They report the news. It's all reported. Some more vigorously than others, some better than others. The tweet is quite easily verifiably wrong, though. 

[Jairzinho]

I think the very worst aspect of the reporting isn't that they don't report atrocities from Israel, it's that they frame the situation as a "conflict". This gives people who only skim read stories about Israel/Palestine the impression that it's some sort of 50/50 battle. Rather than an apartheid with oppressors and the oppressed.

 

The "who fired first" tale is very useful for Bibi and the rest of the fucking Israeli nutters.

[Red Phoenix]

29 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

They report the news. It's all reported. Some more vigorously than others, some better than others. The tweet is quite easily verifiably wrong, though. 

The tweet can be seen as right or wrong depending how you look at it. The first sentence is right and I took the tweet as leading from that point. If you wanted to say it's wrong you'd have to focus on the second part, and argue that because some outlets also mention the sniper fire further down in some of the articles where the first rocket attack is reported, that the tweet is wrong because of that. There could also be some outlets that mention the sniper fire as they open the reporting, but I've not seen it personally.