Plymouth Argyle (A) - FA Cup 4th Round, Sun 9th Feb 2025 (3:00pm)

[stringvest]

10 minutes ago, Dave D said:

No. Diaz will be a key player in the run in 

fucking hell I hope not

[Bloke]

14 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

He should never play for us again, 

 

Fuck off. Had 3 player's closing him down every time he received it, and his best service was getting a late pass after Quansah drove forward from defence. He was shit yes but Salah would of looked a dickhead on the right tonight. 

[diamondjoe]

Already over it. Onto the derby.

[Bobby Hundreds]

1 minute ago, gkmacca said:

 

It was a risk in the same sense of telling a kid to stand on railway tracks and try to dodge an oncoming train is a risk. Absolutely idiotic.

Seeing the lineup i fully expected us to win. Yeah it was weak but we had Kelleher, Quansah, Tsimikas, elliot and Jota.. Chiesa too. All players in and around the first team. They all played appallingly. It would be extra time now too if somebody would of informed Elliot that jumping with both your hands above your head is a monumentally stupid thing to be doing. Plymouth worked their arses off, they deserve their plaudits. 

[Cushty92]

Well that was… something? Poor subs from manager. We need two left backs in the summer. 

[halewood pete]

12 minutes ago, Bob said:

Just here to say... I'm not even in the slightest bit arsed.

Maybe you shouldn't be a Liverpool supporter then ?

[TheSire]

Everyone was dog shit. Looked scared and no one took responsibility, Plymouth didn't do anything special. Not enough running, way too passive and some scared decision making, struggling to do the most basic of stuff. Not really reading into it although fringe players didn't really do much to show the manager they should get more minutes. Everyone was garbage though, it's not about singling out individuals.

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

I look forward to us finishing third then. He's fucking brutal.

 

2 minutes ago, stringvest said:

fucking hell I hope not

He'll be playing up front in most of the big games.

[Pungkoq Hang]

1 minute ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

Elliott from the bench is great. He can't seem to do it from the start though.

 

I've still got no idea why we signed Chiesa.

Chiesa is the archetypal Moneyball signing; unlocking hidden value or some other shite. Works great in baseball. Football? Time will tell though it's not looking good.

[Rushies tash]

@dave u Can we just sack the pod off for this one? It'll be depressing as fuck.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

4 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

I look forward to us finishing third then. He's fucking brutal.

 

If we're picking out brutal forwards I'd put Chiesa above Diaz on that showing.

 

At least Diaz has a few goal streaks. Thus far we've seen next to nothing from Chiesa, and even less today. The odd good touch to control the ball, but too weak to hold off a Championship player, too slow to go past them, and bizarrely refuses to deliver the ball when he hits the byline. A steaming Babel of a performance.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Slot will do his pressers and then forget all about this, he'll sleep well tonight.

 

So should we. 3 points on Wednesday is all that matters.

[redinblack]

3 minutes ago, Lurtz said:

Worst thing about this will be the media field day.

 

If we win the league though, fuck it. 

Ill stay off the net for a couple of days

[DaveT]

10 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

Plymouth just wanted it more, fair play to them. Some players will be getting binned this summer.

Yeah, it was their cup final. At  home, full house. None of those grocks are likely to play a Liverpool team again. Maybe when the magic dust of the cup has dissipated some Plymouth fans will ask why they can't defend a bit more like that in the league - having conceded 63 and with a -34 GD. 

Could have done with Nat Phiillips in our team today!

[Lisa]

Disappointing, but we didn't deserve anything from the game.  The league is the one I desperately want, so not too bothered about going out.  Hopefully, we just forget this quickly and don't let it affect us in the coming matches.

[bigal]

Annoying, embarrassing and disappointing but it all depends on how we go on from here. Win the league and nobody will care about today 

[stringvest]

I don’t think anyone’s got the energy or motivation to get too het up over this

[johnsusername]

I know I know, bigger picture and all that...but what fucking ever, I am fuming with that performance and selection. Absolutely shocking. Completely arrogant from the players and management. 

[Mook]

Just now, Babb'sBurstNad said:

 

If we're picking out brutal forwards I'd put Chiesa above Diaz on that showing.

 

At least Diaz has a few goal streaks. Thus far we've seen next to nothing from Chiesa, and even less today. The odd good touch to control the ball, but too weak to hold off a Championship player, too slow to go last them, and bizarrely refuses to deliver the ball when he hits the byline. A steaming Babel of a performance.

 

Chiesa has started three games all season.

 

He was shite too but Diaz has been here for years now & is doing absolutely nothing for months on end.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, TheSire said:

Everyone was dog shit. Looked scared and no one took responsibility, Plymouth didn't do anything special. Not enough running, way too passive and some scared decision making, struggling to do the most basic of stuff. Not really reading into it although fringe players didn't really do much to show the manager they should get more minutes. Everyone was garbage though, it's not about singling out individuals.

100%.

 

[halewood pete]

What a nice ,switched on guy their manager seems. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Firstly, fair play to Plymouth. Deserved winners and fought with everything to keep a clean sheet. 

 

Secondly, you want to go as far as you can in all competitions, but...

 

Context is needed. No English team has ever won the (proper) quadruple. Not even teams with deeper squads than ours, or with multi-million pound assembled teams. 

 

And, there's a reason for that. Because it's difficult to do. At some stage, something has to give, or a competition has to be downgraded in priority. Otherwise teams get burnt out and fade away. It happened to us recently under Klopp when we were on for winning four trophies and the cups weren't downgraded in priority and we ended up faltering in the league and European competition. 

 

It's a no brainer, for me. Potentially winning the league, the champions league and the league cup is more important than winning the FA Cup. And, for that reason, keeping players fresh for the difficult league games we've got in the 15 day spell starting with the derby is the right thing to do. 

 

It's pie in the sky thinking to seriously expect any manager in their first season in English football to win or come close to winning the four major competitions. It's even more delusional to think this feat achievable when such a manager has only spent £10m on a back up attacking player. 

 

So, for all of the above, I've no issue whatsoever with the team Slot picked today. We should've had enough out there to beat Plymouth today, but some of the squad players didn't do enough. 

 

Anyway, on to the next ones - Everton (a), Wolves (h), Villa (a), Man City (a) and Newcastle (h) in the space of 15 days - which will hopefully show that Slot's squad management was the right and sensible thing to do.

[Bob]

2 minutes ago, halewood pete said:

Maybe you shouldn't be a Liverpool supporter then ?

OK mate. Thanks. Do you want my season ticket now i won't be needing it?

[Dave D]

6 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

I look forward to us finishing third then. He's fucking brutal.

Not great today but Diaz will prove key mste.

 

We can quote the shit out of each other in April/May

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, bigal said:

Annoying, embarrassing and disappointing but it all depends on how we go on from here. Win the league and nobody will care about today 

Indeed. It will take two trophies this season for me to get over this shitshow.