Someone's Having a Real Laugh - How long before Amorim gets a hammering

[DalyanPete]

36 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, and they haven’t helped themselves with the way they’ve tried to rebuild. Their solution seems to be to keep digging. 

Happy to fly home with a spade and help them.

[Harry Squatter]

Roy Hodgson accumulated 25 points in 20 games during his Liverpool tenure, Ruben Amorim has 23 points over 21 games as Manchester United manager.

 

If they start winning trophies again will their fans say to gloryhunters "I was here during the Amorim years lad"

[Leyton388]

No way he is still there in 12 months time. 

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I hope they spend the next 20 years as perpetually mid table but also with ocassinal glimmers of hope that they're 'back', to maximise the pain.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I wonder what odds that Alonso goes to Madrid and Ancelotti to United.

[Pete]

14 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez C-137 said:

I hope they spend the next 20 years as perpetually mid table but also with ocassinal glimmers of hope that they're 'back', to maximise the pain.

So doing an Everton then?

[Crazy Dave]

51 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I wonder what odds that Alonso goes to Madrid and Ancelotti to United.

If Ancelotti isn't in prison, it looks like he'll be the Brazil manager for the WC. 

[Chris]

15 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

The dude's almost got more names than wins

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

So doing an Everton then?

 

Yea except with ocassinal glimmers of hope that they're 'back', to maximise the pain.

[Megadrive Man]

Other than Conte for basically one season at Chelsea, I'm struggling to think of a manager that has had success at the top level playing 3-4-3 or similar in this country.

 

From what I've seen so far they've actually got worse than when Ten Hag was in charge.

 

The only good signing (albeit overpriced) is Yoro. I know he had a nightmare against Southampton but I can see why we were interested. He's quick, tall and a really good long passer. It might be one to revisit if they get relegated next season.

[TD_LFC]

21 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

Other than Conte for basically one season at Chelsea, I'm struggling to think of a manager that has had success at the top level playing 3-4-3 or similar in this country.

 

It's often because of the implementation rather than the system itself, there's no reason it can't work it just needs a total commitment from the club.

 

 

 

[Wezza]

I can’t be bothered to verify it I’m just enjoying it 

[Pete]

47 minutes ago, Wezza said:

I can’t be bothered to verify it I’m just enjoying it 

When Hodgson was appointed my Manc neighbour told me we’d finally got a good manager in place.   May have to remind him of this today…

[Mook]

19 hours ago, DalyanPete said:

Happy to fly home with a spade and help them.

 

Six feet will do nicely.

[RobbieOR]

13 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

It's often because of the implementation rather than the system itself, there's no reason it can't work it just needs a total commitment from the club.

 

 

 

 

Its a part of this but its often that its generally not attacking enough to get the points required to win a league title in England since Klopp and Guardiola came in. Tuchel had success early on with Chelsea but they never had enough match winners on the pitch the full season he had to match us and City over the course of a season. Can work well in knockout games but the limitations show over 38 games.

[Pete]

Personally I hope he keeps persevering with it as it’s working wonders for me so long may it last!

 

[joe_fishfish]

48 minutes ago, RobbieOR said:

 

Its a part of this but its often that its generally not attacking enough to get the points required to win a league title in England since Klopp and Guardiola came in. Tuchel had success early on with Chelsea but they never had enough match winners on the pitch the full season he had to match us and City over the course of a season. Can work well in knockout games but the limitations show over 38 games.

Guardiola has played similar formations loads with City. Usually gets called a 3-2-4-1 when he does it but it’s the same thing. Xavi won La Liga playing it with Barcelona as well. 
 

Amorim’s version of it is stodgy as fuck though. Even at Sporting it was solid and functional going forward rather than pretty. They relied a lot on pace out wide and direct attacks. We obviously had major concerns with it, which is why we never seriously pursued him as an option to replace Klopp.

[RobbieOR]

2 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

Guardiola has played similar formations loads with City. Usually gets called a 3-2-4-1 when he does it but it’s the same thing. Xavi won La Liga playing it with Barcelona as well. 

 

Guardiola's is different considering its all about keeping the ball and the shape depends on when exactly his team has the ball or not. The other iterations I'm talking about were all about counter attacking, using wing backs and hitting teams direct on the break. 

[joe_fishfish]

Yeah I agree actually, can’t see a team playing that specific counter attacking 3-4-3 style winning the premier league again.

[Bob]

15 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

Other than Conte for basically one season at Chelsea, I'm struggling to think of a manager that has had success at the top level playing 3-4-3 or similar in this country.

 

From what I've seen so far they've actually got worse than when Ten Hag was in charge.

 

The only good signing (albeit overpriced) is Yoro. I know he had a nightmare against Southampton but I can see why we were interested. He's quick, tall and a really good long passer. It might be one to revisit if they get relegated next season.

He looks dopey though. You can't be having defenders that look dopey. It's why Tsimikas can't ever be first choice.

[The Midnight Rambler]

Man Utd fans accusing Henry of bullying Yoro on Monday night football.

[DalyanPete]

5 hours ago, Mook said:

 

Six feet will do nicely.

Hadn't thought of that, great suggestion.

[manwiththestick]

1 hour ago, The Midnight Rambler said:

Man Utd fans accusing Henry of bullying Yoro on Monday night football.

Does he play up front for Newcastle?

[AngryofTuebrook]

What a time to be alive!

[Code]

Will they get 45 points?