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US Election Thread 2024


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2024 US Election  

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  1. 1. Who do you want to win?

  2. 2. Who do you think will win?



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23 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

To be honest, I don't understand that logic. I don't much like my mob, so to make them change more to my liking, I'll put a lunatic from the other mob in charge for 4 years and let him load the supreme court even more so his damage can carry on for decades. It's like chopping off your head because you didn't much like the pimple on the end of your nose. 

 

That isn't the logic presented at all.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

 

That's fair enough. To me, it's more like chopping off a gangrenous limb so you won't die in the long run.

 

Honestly mate, the direction of travel in the US right now, with the what's happened with the supreme court, with what's happened with lots of right wing legislation at state level, all of the abortion law stuff - and that will be the tip of the iceberg compared to what's to come. They weren't prepared last time. This time they're geared up from day 1 and have both houses on their side and a loaded supreme court. I don't see anyway you're helping your future by allowing that to happen for the next 4 years. What this election needed was a massive beating of the whole MAGA story. 

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5 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:


Hasn’t he distanced himself from Project 2025, I know some of those who have put it together worked on his staff last time, but he did sack half them. 
 

I currently just see it as another “Great Reset” conspiracy theory. 

 

 

He pretended he hadn't heard of project 2025, even though he pretty much talked about the policies in his campaigning. 

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12 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

That's simple isn't it. They fucked up. It's normal for a sitting president to get pretty much a free pass to run again. He did. They hoped he'd step aside. Many kept pushing for him to step aside. Be he was a senile old fuck and his family weren't for stepping aside, because he was their golden ticket. It was only the debate that finished him off. It was after the primaries, so there was never going to be a democratic process to find a replacement. That process might have brought forward a better candidate, but it couldn't happen. She had probably the biggest national level profile and nobody knew much about her. They shouldn't have picked her, but there were few options. They fucked up. And the biggest fuck up was assuming their own wouldn't stay at home or worse vote for the fucking orange lunatic. 

 

They knew he would be 81 at the start of the 2024 campaign. They had plenty of time to prepare for the next cycle. If I was was a cynic I'd say they deliberately manipulated the situation so only KH could run for 2024. 

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27 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

 

They knew he would be 81 at the start of the 2024 campaign. They had plenty of time to prepare for the next cycle. If I was was a cynic I'd say they deliberately manipulated the situation so only KH could run for 2024. 

 

I think if you're cynical you could think like that. I certainly don't think it's unreasonable to think Harris knew how bad he was and knew it was in her interests to keep it quiet for as long as possible. I can 100% see how her ambition may have been more important to her than the future of her country. Politicians are not a nice breed, if in a working environment someone calls you "political", they're not giving you a compliment. 

 

As for the rest of the dem party though, I don't know how easy it would be, unless he stepped aside, or enough of his inner circle flagged it, for the party to be able to just dump him as sitting president purely because he's 81. I think it was a fuck up based on many in the central orbit of biden not knowing how to deal with this problem. Many people think no decision isn't a decision. But it is, it's a decision to continue on the path you're on. In my opinion it was just a bad decision, no more or less. 

 

18 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

No. It's about a line in the sand. You simply disagree with where the line is, you aren't demonstrating it is Illogical at all.

 

 

 

Do you agree not voting for Harris is helping Trump? If you agree with that point of view, it is illogical in a 2 horse race to help elect the person who is least aligned with you, because you don't agree with every policy that the person most aligned to you is doing.

 

If in this election you draw the line at providing arms and support to Israel, when the other candidate would do the same, it is illogical to make that stance. Arms will go to Israel either way. Your stance has made no impact the the cause you wish to influence. 

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35 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Blueprint 2024's survey has the reasons voters gave for not voting for Harris. Most important issues at the top.

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You’re not reading the GF room here. Trump won becuase the US voters are all thick racists including the black and Hispanic ones. Nothing to do with policies, the US electorate were just too stupid to see what the political sages on the GF could. Try harder. 

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Just now, Engineman Hicks said:

You’re not reading the GF room here. Trump won becuase the US voters are all thick racists including the black and Hispanic ones. Nothing to do with policies, the US electorate were just too stupid to see what the political sages on the GF could. Try harder. 

 

Hey, don't blame the messenger. I just provide the facts. What people do with those facts is up to them.

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11 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

You’re not reading the GF room here. Trump won becuase the US voters are all thick racists including the black and Hispanic ones. Nothing to do with policies, the US electorate were just too stupid to see what the political sages on the GF could. Try harder. 

 

Except nobody's said that have they? Plus it's not as though the GF is the only place bemoaning the results. People like Dan Rather are fucking suicidal. Trump is a liar, criminal and a rapist, shocking that people would be baffled about it.

 

I never understand why people like you and Rico waste your lives just coming on here posting snide, glib shit about "this lot", why don't you fuck off and get an allotment or something if it's so shit?

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14 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

You’re not reading the GF room here. Trump won becuase the US voters are all thick racists including the black and Hispanic ones. Nothing to do with policies, the US electorate were just too stupid to see what the political sages on the GF could. Try harder. 

Condescending Tory meff. Haven't you got Boris' dogs to walk?

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16 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Except nobody's said that have they? Plus it's not as though the GF is the only place bemoaning the results. People like Dan Rather are fucking suicidal. Trump is a liar, criminal and a rapist, shocking that people would be baffled about it.

 

I never understand why people like you and Rico waste your lives just coming on here posting snide, glib shit about "this lot", why don't you fuck off and get an allotment or something if it's so shit?

Here’s a quote from this thread “Many are merely thick, misogynistic, sexual abuse apologist racists who voted for a criminal. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

You’re not reading the GF room here. Trump won becuase the US voters are all thick racists including the black and Hispanic ones. Nothing to do with policies, the US electorate were just too stupid to see what the political sages on the GF could. Try harder. 

 

Yes, 2 out of the top 3 issues being the usual right wing dog whistles clearly shows that...

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6 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

And they are. Not everyone of course, but many are.

Yes probably but the original comment was “nobody said that” (in this thread) which is demonstrably untrue. My point from the very beginning of this thread has been that extremists like Trump win becuase mainstream politicians in both the US and Europe are dismissing the concerns of the electorate and, as we have seen in the microcosm of the GF, patronising them as being stupid. If reasonable politicians don’t listen to the electorate, they will vote for someone more extreme who does. 

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10 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

Yes probably but the original comment was “nobody said that” (in this thread) which is demonstrably untrue. My point from the very beginning of this thread has been that extremists like Trump win becuase mainstream politicians in both the US and Europe are dismissing the concerns of the electorate and, as we have seen in the microcosm of the GF, patronising them as being stupid. If reasonable politicians don’t listen to the electorate, they will vote for someone more extreme who does. 

If only we’d contributed

to you and your wife‘s tax scam for laptops for poor kids. Fucking do one Kurtz. 

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24 minutes ago, Engineman Hicks said:

Well her charity delivered about 10,000 hours of free teaching to kids stuck at home during lockdown. What did you do to help other people ? 

Oooh I’m so caring I created a charity and think no one else gets off their arse to do anything. Mate you live in Surrey and your cunt wife rocked up in Walton cos she wants to get ahead in the party of Johnson and The Spectator. Do us all a favour and fuck off.
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kepler-186 said:

Oooh I’m so caring I created a charity and think no one else gets off their arse to do anything. Mate you live in Surrey and your cunt wife rocked up in Walton cos she wants to get ahead in the party of Johnson and The Spectator. Do us all a favour and fuck off.
 

 

You didn’t answer the question. What do you do to help other people ? 

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1 minute ago, Engineman Hicks said:

You didn’t answer the question. What do you do to help other people ? 

Well I don’t hang around with golf club racists, bankers and members of the Conservative Party. 
 

You’ve deleted that many accounts you don’t even remember when posters have interacted with you. 
 

I don’t need to justify myself to you. You hang around with people who think Liverpool is a shit hole but lack both the political and historical acumen to

understand why it’s economically depressed. Then you get arsey with people who pull you up on it. 
 

I help other people by not being a right wing fucking cunt and by organising in my community against a destructive road and subsequently forming a community action group to pressurise the council ( one of the hardest hit by ToryFibDem cuts) to better deliver for all residents. 

 

Thinking of standing for MP on the trickle down economic platform. Maybe in Walton. 


 

 

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