Nott'm Forest (H) - Sat 14th Sep 2024 (3:00pm)

[bossy]

Just now, Mook said:

 

You don't think there is any corruption in the Premier League then?

There might well be, but we didn’t lose today because of it. 

[an tha]

2 hours ago, Binomial said:

 

 

Stupid not to rotate, we'll never learn our lessons after the international break will we? Diaz and Mac shouldn't have started, neither should Szobo.

 

 

 

 

Who do you reckon should have started instead of Mac and Szobo?

[3 Stacks]

It has nothing to do with rotating or not rotating, it's the 4th game of the season. You don't need to rotate at this point.

 

And generally speaking, City play with about 100 different lineups, and equally, you can find loads of examples where continuity in the starting 11 is a good thing. Whatever you want, you can argue for.

[Barrington Womble]

56 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Tactically outed when we had 14 shots and they had 3? I don't think it had much to do with that.

 

We were very easily tactically done. They let us have the ball. Our best chances came from set pieces or individual action . We created nearly nothing from open play. There was very little to our tactics today that you thought would enable us to score. Unless the plan was to hope for a set piece. Santos came for a smash and grab. His players executed it perfectly and we had no answer. Whatever the fuck that was we were watching after Slot took konate off, was fucking shambolic, I'm not even sure there was a formation. Slot was properly schooled today. He needs to learn and learn fast - everything that happened today, we talked about on the way to the game, they'd defend narrow, let us have the ball in the middle 3rd, hit the ball long over the top to Wood and be happy to not give us gifts trying to play through the middle - like man united did 3 times the other week. And if it came off, he'd have a go in the last part of the game. The only bit that took me by surprise was he decided to try and win the game about 15 minutes earlier than we talked about. Despite how obvious it was, we had no answers to it. In fact I read some words after the game that made it sound like slot was surprised they were organised. Maybe it doesn't sound as bad when you hear it, but it read like he thought they should just turn up and get beat 

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

It has nothing to do with rotating or not rotating, it's the 4th game of the season. You don't need to rotate at this point.

 

And generally speaking, City play with about 100 different lineups, and equally, you can find loads of examples where continuity in the starting 11 is a good thing.

Have you ever had jetlag? 

[3 Stacks]

Just now, Barrington Womble said:

 

We were very easily tactically done. They let us have the ball. Our best chances came from set pieces of individual action . We created nearly nothing from open play. There was very little to our tactics today that you thought would enable us to score. Unless the plan was to hope for a set piece. Santos came for a smash and grab. His players executed it perfectly and we had no answer. Whatever the fuck that was we were watching after Slot took konate off, was fucking shambolic, I'm not even sure there was a formation. Slot was properly schooled today. He needs to learn and learn fast - everything that happened today, we talked about on the way to the game, they'd defend narrow, let us have the ball in the middle 3rd, hit the ball long over the top to Wood and be happy to not give us gifts trying to play through the middle - like man united did 3 times the other week. And if it came off, he'd have a go in the last part of the game. The only bit that took me by surprise was he decided to try and win the game about 15 minutes earlier than we talked about. Despite how obvious it was, we had no answers to it. In fact I read some words after the game that made it sound like slot was surprised they were organised. Maybe it doesn't sound as bad when you hear it, but it read like he thought they should just turn up and get beat 

It's Santo, not Santos.

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

It's Santo, not Santos.

I prefer Santos thanks. 

[3 Stacks]

Just now, Barrington Womble said:

Have you ever had jetlag? 

Jota played 90 minutes in 13 days. He could have had 4 straight all nighters, for all I care.

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

Jota played 90 minutes in 13 days. He could have had 4 straight all nighters, for all I care.

Macca and Diaz should have both been rotated.

[Kevin D]

2 hours ago, sir roger said:

Thought ( and said so ) that a lot of people were overreacting too positively to our first three games, but we are probably doing the opposite after today's game. Easy to go on about tactics, but tactics mean nothing when the majority of your players are well below par and most seem incapable of passing a ball to a colleague 5 yards away.

I think it’s because it looked very similar to April/May with a lot of the same culprits.

[3 Stacks]

2 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Macca and Diaz should have both been rotated.

Did you see Jones and Gakpo's level?

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

Did you see Jones and Gakpo's level?

Not all players come off the bench well, especially when you're chasing a result . I've said before and I'll say again, gakpo has no heart for a fight. When he came on, that game needed a fight. And I wouldn't have started gakpo, I'd have played Jota left and Nunez through the middle. 

[Engineman Hicks]

22 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

You don't think there is any corruption in the Premier League then?

No I don’t. There’s no evidence that any of the refs are corrupt. Teams lose, it happens. 

[Smell The Glove]

5 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Not all players come off the bench well, especially when you're chasing a result . I've said before and I'll say again, gakpo has no heart for a fight. When he came on, that game needed a fight. And I wouldn't have started gakpo, I'd have played Jota left and Nunez through the middle. 

I don't think it mattered who played in the forward positions today. Apart from giving Diaz a rest it would have been much of the same as we had no plan to get them out of their shape. This is a long standing problem which Klopp would resolve by mustering more than 14 shots.

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Not all players come off the bench well, especially when you're chasing a result . I've said before and I'll say again, gakpo has no heart for a fight. When he came on, that game needed a fight. And I wouldn't have started gakpo, I'd have played Jota left and Nunez through the middle. 

The positions are clearly;

striker: Jota, Nunez

Left: Diaz, Gakpo.

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, Smell The Glove said:

I don't think it matered who played in the forward positions today. Apart from giving Diaz a rest it would have been much of the same as we had no plan to get them out of their shape. This is a long standing problem which Klopp would resolve by mustering more than 14 shots.

And Nunez in klopp's system was a chance creator. It might not have made a difference, we will never know, but I'd have done it because Nunez is the player who's most likely to upset a defence sitting in. He might not score himself, but he's generally good with knock downs etc in those types of games. 

[Barrington Womble]

2 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

The positions are clearly;

striker: Jota, Nunez

Left: Diaz, Gakpo.

Oh right. Thanks Arne. 

[Mook]

28 minutes ago, bossy said:

There might well be, but we didn’t lose today because of it. 

 

Agreed.

 

We lost because they wanted it more, no excuses today.

[stringvest]

4 hours ago, Engineman Hicks said:

Are you the first person ever on the Ff to use the phrase “I’m sitting in a lovely chateau”. 

 

doubt it.  There's a few on here who own one

[Section_31]

[Smell The Glove]

2 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

And Nunez in klopp's system was a chance creator. It might not have made a difference, we will never know, but I'd have done it because Nunez is the player who's most likely to upset a defence sitting in. He might not score himself, but he's generally good with knock downs etc in those types of games. 

This was the point I was making. Klopp struggled also with low block teams but we would have 30+ shots against them, especially if we went behind. I don't think Slot wants to see Nunez shooting from everywhere so he needs to find a way to move teams about better than today.

[Section_31]

Morale will start to suffer the longer the contract situation rumbles on too. Slot won't commit because he knows nothing about it I reckon, he is literally the "head coach".

 

This system has massive potential for going tits up with so many non footballing people calling the shots.

 

Football is a simple game made complicated by fools. Take your stats, your excel spreadsheets, your eight-year-old Bohemian 'next big things' and your motion sensors and shove them right up your arse.

 

Shit or get off the pot you mingebag, late to work, early to play, simple simon-assed, chunky cheese-faced, yacht owning Boston twats.

[stringvest]

1 hour ago, etho said:

Very poor all round and was likely to happen, Slot has to and will learn from that. Lots of shouts for it but I thought Dom was desperately poor. If you play with a 10 they need to have the ability to pick the lock against a low block and that’s just not his game. Frustratingly Ellliott could have been a real difference maker here.

 

Elliott is always fantastic when he doesn't play.

 

[Binomial]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Tactically outed when we had 14 shots and they had 3? I don't think it had much to do with that.

 

The fuck has that got to do with anything? So just because we had more shots tells you.....we got it spot on? 
 

Did you watch the game Vlad? Because had you done so, you'd have seen all the non-chances we created.

[3 Stacks]

Just now, Binomial said:

 

The fuck has that got to do with anything? So just because we had more shots tells you.....we got it spot on? 
 

Did you watch the game Vlad?

I'll answer for him: no.