This contracts situation

[Barrington Womble]

5 minutes ago, Strontium said:

What I want to know is why has nobody in the media asked Slot or anyone at FSG about this? It's absolutely the number one concern of Liverpool fans, and journalists are just straight up not doing their job. They should be camping outside FSG's offices and ambushing the cunts as they get limousines to the marina.

 

When we saw Hughes involved in slots first press conference, I thought it indicated he was a SD who was going to be open with the fan base and maybe pick up this side of shit, so slot doesn't havebto. I think after VVD said his stuff the other week that there had been no talks, he should have nipped it in the bud then.

 

If they're going, they're going..let's get it out there and closed. If they want to sit a while, say that. But when it gets to the point 2 of the 3 are calling them out about no talks, it's not right. Even for the players themselves. They've been brilliant for the club, if the club want rid, they should be told. 

[Jairzinho]

It's curious in a way that they turned down 150m, but are happy to see him leave on a free. Presumably they see it as better from a PR point of view, and obviously there is less pressure to actually spend the money.

[TheHowieLama]

9 minutes ago, Pidge said:

I would happily extend his current deal for two years. 

Anyone would.

Except him.

[Chip Butty]

Perfectly sound, it’s football, get over yourselves.

 

Go play on a video game, ye bunch of quims. 

 

 

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

It's curious in a way that they turned down 150m, but are happy to see him leave on a free. Presumably they see it as better from a PR point of view, and obviously there is less pressure to actually spend the money.

He may have not wanted to go?

[Pidge]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Anyone would.

Except him.

Chelsea would probably offer him ten 

[YNWAViking]

Salah clearly pushes the notion of him being able to be as good as he is now for a few more years, thus he wants to stay at the current salary. LFC, being run as it is, focusing on each £ spent/earned, I am not sure they want to spend that amount of money on him as he is 31. 

 

I am sure Salah's agent has been clear about their viewpoint on this to LFC, and thats why Salah has "not heard anything" in regards to discussions of a new contract, because its not in the interest of LFC to sign such a renewal. 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Pidge said:

Chelsea would probably offer him ten 

The guy is in line to get the sum of a small countries GDP, that is his market value - there is no package FSG could ever put together that would make sense for him to and he doesn't owe them anything. He may feel disrespected that no one has told him it's over, or that the club haven't publicly announced their intention to not offer him a new deal - but there is no chance everyone involved does not realize the fundamental wage gap there.

 

Equally, he better than anyone else, knew how that comment would play. 

 

 

 

[Lee909]

You could offer all 3 of them 3 year extensions on 300k a week. Comes in at 46.8ml a year, 2 years,93.6ml. 

 

The Saudi would very likely give you 20ml each for Virg and Mo before year 3 if there level started to fall off. 

 

It would cost more than 50ml to replace any of them anyway. Even a back up rightback if you think Bradley is ready would be 20ml plus wages. Shite CB like Inacio are going to cost you 35-40ml and 5ml a year in wages. 

 

It makes no sense to let the 3 walk at all unless you are showing how clever you are or looking to dramatically drop the wage bill. They've already spent 30ml on Alissons long term replacement so will likely want to move him on next season. The money made on selling him and his wages and Kelleher fee would cover a large chunk of next year wages for the 3 and a bit of Mamardashvili fee

[Red Banjo]

The age thing is absolute nonsense.

 

Juventus signed a 33 year old Cristiano Ronaldo for €105m. Yes there was an element of his commercial value but he went on to top the scoring charts 3 years on the bounce.

 

Surely you value the player first, and his age 2nd. 

 

Especially when he's the greatest player in your recent history.

 

There's no defending the club here. There's no justification for him being 3 months away from being able to discuss a move to another club. None.

[YNWAViking]

I think we'll sign a renewal with Trent. Seems like he is happy, we are happy, he's still young, it just makes sense. Right?

 

Maybe we'll sign up VVD as he's still bossing the defence and will do so for another 2-3 years. Though I think he might have to accept an wage adjustment. 

 

Salah, as reasons mentioned above, I think will leave next summer.

[Pidge]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The guy is in line to get the sum of a small countries GDP, that is his market value - there is no package FSG could ever put together that would make sense for him to and he doesn't owe them anything. He may feel disrespected that no one has told him it's over, or that the club haven't publicly announced their intention to not offer him a new deal - but there is no chance everyone involved does not realize the fundamental wage gap there.

 

Equally, he better than anyone else, knew how that comment would play. 

 

 

 

*Shrug*

 

Cool.

[Barrington Womble]

37 minutes ago, Red Banjo said:

The age thing is absolute nonsense.

 

Juventus signed a 33 year old Cristiano Ronaldo for €105m. Yes there was an element of his commercial value but he went on to top the scoring charts 3 years on the bounce.

 

Surely you value the player first, and his age 2nd. 

 

Especially when he's the greatest player in your recent history.

 

There's no defending the club here. There's no justification for him being 3 months away from being able to discuss a move to another club. None.

 

What I genuinely find mind-blowing with all this, is I would say Ali, VVD and Salah have comfortably been the best 3 players of the klopp era. There are some not very far behind - one of which is Trent. All 4 seem to have years in the tank.  Yet it seems the club are focused on getting rid of all of them. It doesn't really make any type of sporting sense. And it can only make economic sense if what they're asking for is off the scale. If indeed they even know what they're asking for, as it would seem we're not even talking. 

 

I keep wondering if it's all a big trick and they'll just announce new deals during the international break. 

[KevieG]

English clubs could very easily pick up Salah and Virgil if we won't renew.

 

 

[Planet Origi]

Wage gap or not (how do we know if no negotiations have taken place?), it's disgracefully disrespectful to keep a player of his standing for the club (and he's not the only one too), hanging this late with no sign of a contract offer. The players have every right to be pissed off or frustrated at least.

[Pidge]

5 minutes ago, Planet Origi said:

Wage gap or not (how do we know if no negotiations have taken place?), 

Because we're taking it as a given that he's already agreed a massive offer from Saudi.

[TheHowieLama]

17 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

if what they're asking for is off the scale. If indeed they even know what they're asking for, as it would seem we're not even talking. 

 

As we have both said previously - everyone around the table are quite well versed in what these players market values are.

Just in the last few posts an extension for Salah or 300k has been suggested.

Either of those would be laughed at by him - and rightly so. And the club would take pelters from every angle for those "offers."

That is without taking any signing bonus into consideration.

Any number to even start a serious conversation for Salah has to be over 500k a week. Even that would be a hard sell imo - he can get more.

 

[Red Banjo]

9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

What I genuinely find mind-blowing with all this, is I would say Ali, VVD and Salah have comfortably been the best 3 players of the klopp era. There are some not very far behind - one of which is Trent. All 4 seem to have years in the tank.  Yet it seems the club are focused on getting rid of all of them. It doesn't really make any type of sporting sense. And it can only make economic sense if what they're asking for is off the scale. If indeed they even know what they're asking for, as it would seem we're not even talking. 

 

I keep wondering if it's all a big trick and they'll just announce new deals during the international break. 

 

The club have trimmed £30m+ off the yearly wage bill over the summer with the departure of the coaching staff and various youth and senior players.

 

There's no economic sense in what they are doing with VVD and Mo. They are the only 2 players in our squad who earn over £200k a week. Man City have 13 players in their squad who earn over £200k a week. They are penny pinching cunts who want Real Madrid level success with Fulham level investment.

 

The fact that social media, the entire sports reporting world and the whole Liverpool fanbase are talking about the Mo Salah contract when we've just humped our biggest rivals in their own yard should tell them how pathetic their running of the club is.

 

It's weapons grade embarrassment for them. And they deserve all the criticism.

[Binomial]

Get to work Hughes and fast, yer cunt.

[Barrington Womble]

13 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

As we have both said previously - everyone around the table are quite well versed in what these players market values are.

Just in the last few posts an extension for Salah or 300k has been suggested.

Either of those would be laughed at by him - and rightly so. And the club would take pelters from every angle for those "offers."

That is without taking any signing bonus into consideration.

Any number to even start a serious conversation for Salah has to be over 500k a week. Even that would be a hard sell imo - he can get more.

 

 

You don't know what Salah is asking for though. He's not stupid and neither is his agent. They know the financial realities of playing in this league instead of that joke show in Saudi arabia. For all we know he could be off playing for Bayern next summer. 

 

Money is an obvious part of the deal for any job, football or otherwise. But as zubimendi has just shown, there are sometimes other bits that matters too. For him it was his ma's cooking or the hills or whatever. Mo has always come across as very driven, seems very obsessed with just about every record he can try and break here. So we do have some pull here, even if we don't have Saudi level cash. 

 

And the fact we've got vvd & Trent in the same boat, that Ali gave an interview last week saying "if the club wants the money, fine, but I'll stay, I'll even sign a new contract", it doesn't much make you think the club wants any of these high earners as they've literally already bought his replacement. 

 

As every day passes to me it feels like Hughes' objective is to try and use his market knowledge of shopping lower down the scale, to take our wages down from where they are now. 

 

 

[Lee909]

22 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

As we have both said previously - everyone around the table are quite well versed in what these players market values are.

Just in the last few posts an extension for Salah or 300k has been suggested.

Either of those would be laughed at by him - and rightly so. And the club would take pelters from every angle for those "offers."

That is without taking any signing bonus into consideration.

Any number to even start a serious conversation for Salah has to be over 500k a week. Even that would be a hard sell imo - he can get more.

 

 

He could have got more before his last extension, he could have got more forcing a move in the past 2 years but he hasn't

[Red Banjo]

27 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

As we have both said previously - everyone around the table are quite well versed in what these players market values are.

Just in the last few posts an extension for Salah or 300k has been suggested.

Either of those would be laughed at by him - and rightly so. And the club would take pelters from every angle for those "offers."

That is without taking any signing bonus into consideration.

Any number to even start a serious conversation for Salah has to be over 500k a week. Even that would be a hard sell imo - he can get more.

 

 

The Saudi league is a false economy tho. A 500k+ offer from them means he's going into semi retirement, playing infront of 3,000 half arsed fans and playing against a mixture of washed up mercenaries and Sunday league level farmers.

 

He's never getting a £500k offer from a European side. The only clubs who would even entertain those numbers are Real and PSG and with PSR rules kicking about - you'd imagine they couldn't cobble together anything close to that.

 

I think he'd accept an extension on his current wage, and considering he's number 2 on the earning chart - he knows he's where he should be.

 

The problem is we have owners who think it's OK for Luis Diaz to earn less playing for us than Aaron Hickey earns playing for Brentford.

[TheHowieLama]

Who said he would go to the Saudis?

 

A modest signing on fee plus what he makes now is easily over 500k a week, Probably more like 600.

 

[TheHowieLama]

12 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

He could have got more before his last extension, he could have got more forcing a move in the past 2 years but he hasn't

I have no idea what he could have got and don't remember any move he could have forced other than the Saudi offer

[TheHowieLama]

16 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

You don't know what Salah is asking for though.

 

 

No one does - with the exception of an extension.

We know he has not asked for that. And the mental gymnastics to think he would are astounding right now.

Because he shouldn't.