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The Current Far Right in the UK


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1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

They're certainly well placed (with promotion and funding from some dangerous cunts) to get a fuckload of seats; not enough to win power, but enough to be a significant influence on the parliamentary agenda.  That's why it's so important that Labour succeed in not only improving people's lives, but also in selling the perception of those improvements and getting people to realise that life is better if you vote for non-cunts.

 

Difficult to sell a perception though if the majority of the media seem intent on spinning everything Labour do as shit - and dig up random 'members of the public' to personally call them out at every opportunity (something they never did in the previous 14 years).

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To be honest I don't see how it's on Labour to stop people voting reform, any more than it's on the Democrats that people voted for trump.

 

"Oooh you'd better quickly overturn the ravages of right wing politics I continually voted for - and double quick smart  - or I will take revenge by voting for an even more right wing party and that'll learn you. Meanwhile I'll consume every type of racism, misogyny, bullshit and lies I can get my hands on and have neither the brains or temperance to check whether it's right or not."

 

James O'brien had it spot on today talking about polarisation, and he said it wasn't about left or right any more, it's about lies vs truth.

 

You've got a Starmer or a Harris who, regardless of their flaws, deal in a world of laws and facts.

 

Opposed to a Farage or a Badenoch or a Truss or a Trump who just spout non stop, outright, provable lies all day, every day.

 

The simple fact of the matter isn't complicated, it's that we're a nation of idiots and an increasingly quite disgusting people and we will get what we deserve.

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13 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

To be honest I don't see how it's on Labour to stop people voting reform, any more than it's on the Democrats that people voted for trump.

 

"Oooh you'd better quickly overturn the ravages of right wing politics I continually voted for - and double quick smart  - or I will take revenge by voting for an even more right wing party and that'll learn you. Meanwhile I'll consume every type of racism, misogyny, bullshit and lies I can get my hands on and have neither the brains or temperance to check whether it's right or not."

 

James O'brien had it spot on today talking about polarisation, and he said it wasn't about left or right any more, it's about lies vs truth.

 

You've got a Starmer or a Harris who, regardless of their flaws, deal in a world of laws and facts.

 

Opposed to a Farage or a Badenoch or a Truss or a Trump who just spout non stop, outright, provable lies all day, every day.

 

The simple fact of the matter isn't complicated, it's that we're a nation of idiots and an increasingly quite disgusting people and we will get what we deserve.

There was a similar argument put foreward in the 2019 election  

The red wall felt labour had moved to much to the centre and in protest voted for..boris johnson 

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5 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

They're certainly well placed (with promotion and funding from some dangerous cunts) to get a fuckload of seats; not enough to win power, but enough to be a significant influence on the parliamentary agenda.  That's why it's so important that Labour succeed in not only improving people's lives, but also in selling the perception of those improvements and getting people to realise that life is better if you vote for non-cunts.

Get that frog faced cunt on a politics show and ask him to run through some of his policies or how exactly he would 'turn the boats back?

Crazy I know

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27 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

To be honest I don't see how it's on Labour to stop people voting reform, any more than it's on the Democrats that people voted for trump.

 

"Oooh you'd better quickly overturn the ravages of right wing politics I continually voted for - and double quick smart  - or I will take revenge by voting for an even more right wing party and that'll learn you. Meanwhile I'll consume every type of racism, misogyny, bullshit and lies I can get my hands on and have neither the brains or temperance to check whether it's right or not."

 

James O'brien had it spot on today talking about polarisation, and he said it wasn't about left or right any more, it's about lies vs truth.

 

You've got a Starmer or a Harris who, regardless of their flaws, deal in a world of laws and facts.

 

Opposed to a Farage or a Badenoch or a Truss or a Trump who just spout non stop, outright, provable lies all day, every day.

 

The simple fact of the matter isn't complicated, it's that we're a nation of idiots and an increasingly quite disgusting people and we will get what we deserve.

Nah.  No nation is a nation of disgusting idiots and - in the absence of perfect democracy - no nation gets the government its people deserve.

 

Our democracy is deeply flawed and, well, undemocratic.  As a result we've had governments of all three major parties who haven't represented most people or done enough to make things better for them.  Reform (like Trump) have successfully positioned themselves as a break from failed mainstream politics; because Labour are in government (and because, more than any other party, their founding purpose is to make things better for all of society) it's on them to make Reform redundant by showing that mainstream politics can work.

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On 09/12/2024 at 14:37, Arniepie said:

There seems to be a collective mass panic that reform are going to storm the next election.

 

The worry for me is the money that may be potentially behind them - money and power they can use to control the narrative.

 

I don't fear Reform as such as it stands - but i do fear what it may be the genesis of - a united right led by a Trump like figure backed by the richest people in the world and the so called "wealth creators".

 

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-uks-new-treasurer-nick-candy-reveals-he-spoke-to-elon-musk-this-morning-13270916

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Just now, Section_31 said:

Finish him!

 

 

 

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The gym I barely go to has a boxing area. Anyone who punches like that are the ones who try and move the bags. They hit straight and stuff but watch them spar and it’s high windmills same as most street fights. “Ooh yay!!!! Have that” 

 

Mainly me obviously. 

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30 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

The knobhead who tried to set fire to the Holiday Inn in Rotherham during the riots has today been given a 9 year prison sentence. 
 

FAFO. 


But but but!!! They all got arrested for posting things on Facebook! 

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Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, and Nick Candy, his new party treasurer, have met Elon Musk at Donald Trump’s Florida home, Mar-a-Lago, the party has announced.

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