Other Football 2024/25

[an tha]

Are we guaranteed top 8 now?

 

[Chocoholic]

34 minutes ago, Em City said:

Lookman is class.

 

Another fantastic decision by the Blueshite letting him go for peanuts.

Buying and selling judgments and decisions are some of, if not the biggest determinant of a club's mid-to-long term fortunes, that they themselves control.

 

Naturally, the decision to sell Lookman because he was average for them, and his subsequent rise to current form... is a Redshite conspiracy to keep them down.

[Code]

8 minutes ago, an tha said:

Atalanta missed an absolute sitter at the death to snatch a point.

 

I fucking hate Real Madrid - no matter how shite they are in this they always seem to pull it out the fire.

Incredible miss that one, 0,84 xg, more than a penalty. 

[Code]

9 minutes ago, an tha said:

Are we guaranteed top 8 now?

 

No, dont think so.

 

[sir roger]

6 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

Buying and selling judgments and decisions are some of, if not the biggest determinant of a club's mid-to-long term fortunes, that they themselves control.

 

Naturally, the decision to sell Lookman because he was average for them, and his subsequent rise to current form... is a Redshite conspiracy to keep them down.

 

With Lookman being bought by Rafa for 7.5m and being sold for 30m, even Blues who can regularly disappear up their own arseholes would struggle to blame the Redshite.

[an tha]

10 minutes ago, Code said:

No, dont think so.

 

The absolute fucking state of that table!

 

Head hurts looking at it.

[diamondjoe]

Win 6/6 and still not fully into the next round. Fucking shitty league format. 

[aws]

Finishing top is supposed to earn you easier games in the later rounds but at the moment we’re headed for one of the Madrid sides followed by Bayern followed by Inter.  

[an tha]

Looking at it i find it hard to believe we aren't with 18 pts and only 2 left to play.

 

There must be teams in top 8/10 who are playing each other in last 2.

[an tha]

Just now, aws said:

Finishing top is supposed to earn you easier games in the later rounds but at the moment we’re headed for one of the Madrid sides followed by Bayern followed by Inter.  

Would be just our luck.

 

Meanwhile abu dhabi will scrape in and then face fucking Brest or Bruges.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

43 minutes ago, an tha said:

Are we guaranteed top 8 now?

 

Arithmetically, not yet.  We're guaranteed at least top 14 (maybe a little higher: I haven't checked which of the teams who could still get 18 points have to play each other).  I expect that will change tomorrow; we could even get guaranteed top 8 then.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

26 minutes ago, an tha said:

The absolute fucking state of that table!

 

Head hurts looking at it.

You look at the tables Code posts?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 minutes ago, an tha said:

Looking at it i find it hard to believe we aren't with 18 pts and only 2 left to play.

 

There must be teams in top 8/10 who are playing each other in last 2.

Arsenal play Monaco tomorrow, so one or both of them is going to lose the chance to reach 18 points.

[an tha]

45 minutes ago, Code said:

Incredible miss that one, 0,84 xg, more than a penalty. 

A shocker.

 

You'd back Nunez to convert it.

[an tha]

Just now, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Arsenal play Monaco tomorrow, so one or both of them is going to lose the chance to reach 18 points.

Yeah - sort of thing I was thinking about.

[an tha]

7 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

You look at the tables Code posts?

I am code, code....

[The Midnight Rambler]

[an tha]

16 minutes ago, The Midnight Rambler said:

Just read the below elsewhere.

 

Get your head ready! This is quite something...

 

Whoever wrote it could have just stopped after first few words - but you can't fault the effort!

 

I think 1 point (vs Lille) would absolute guarantee top 8 - and it would take a lot of luck for more than 8 teams to actually get to 18 points with a better GD unless we lose both of our games by 2+ goals.  The teams on 9 have got <= 3 GD, so we can probably ignore them.  On 10 points are Lille (who we play), Arsenal and Monaco (who play each other, so no more than 1 of them can get to 18 anyway).  So if Lille do win out (and overturn a 7 GD deficit to us by thrashing us, say), then thats then, 1 out of Arsenal and Monaco, Barce/Borussia, and then the 4 teams on 13 points after tonights game can get to 19 (by winning both of their remaining games) - Brest have Monaco anyway (so Monaco would need to lose vs Arsenal). 

Worse case scenario is us to lose by a combined 4+ goals to reduce our GD to +7.  Then IF:

• AC Milan win vs Red Star, Girona and Zagreb by at least +6 they will sneak ahead of us on GD
• Lille win vs us (by 2+ goals), Sturm Graz and Feyenoord - they could then sneak ahead of us on GD
• Arsenal beat Monaco tomorrow, then Zagreb and Girona, going to 19 points, 1 ahead
• Borussia Dortmund and Barcelona draw tomorrow; then both win out in Jan vs Bologna/Shakthar and Benfica/Atalanta to move to 19, 1 ahead
• All 4 of Brest, Inter, Villa and Bayer win their 2 games in Jan and move to 19.  They have, respectively:  Shakthar/Real,  Sparta Prague/Monaco , Monaco/Celtic   and  Atletico/Sparta Prague

So thats a max of 9 teams who could possibly go ahead of us, 2 (or 3 if the Barcelona/Dortmund game doesn't end in a draw) on goal difference (where we have a +7 and a +10 advantage currently on the GD). 

A single point, would take us to 19 - and that would then guarantee us 8th regardless of other results, and it for that to happen it would likely be a 7/8 way tie on GD on 19 points with everyone else.

A single point dropped from any of the teams above immediately rules them out from overtaking us - other than the Barce/Dortmund where a tie would take both to 13 as well, meaning both could get 19.   

[Lee909]

26 minutes ago, an tha said:

A shocker.

 

You'd back Nunez to convert it.

 

 

 

[an tha]

1 minute ago, Lee909 said:

 

 

 

Hard to argue with that!

[an tha]

Arsenal and Abu Dhabi are going to go through without doubt - but hopefully they'll have to be all out to do so in these remaining 3 games and not get the luxury of resting players and maybe even need the additional agg of a play off round tie.

[Dapower]

So we only need a point 

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Dapower said:

So we only need a point 

Good point.

[Megadrive Man]

1 hour ago, aws said:

Finishing top is supposed to earn you easier games in the later rounds but at the moment we’re headed for one of the Madrid sides followed by Bayern followed by Inter.  

 

Where have you seen that?

 

They do a draw for the knockout stage and we'd be seeded first as it stands. 

[Megadrive Man]

If we beat Lille we are guaranteed top two so can play the reserves and kids v PSV.