The Labour government thread

[Section_31]

Still apples and pears though IMO, it's easy to forget the depravity of the previous mob.

 

The likes of Steeting and Kendall are old school centre right turds spouting semi-understood dogma, they're not giving billion pound contracts to their golf buddies for stuff they know doesn't work, then laughing aboit people's grandmothers dying en masse.

 

It's a low bar I know.

[Pidge]

Pug faced twat. The welfare burden of people with Mental Health diagnoses does not render the diagnoses incorrect!

 

Bellend!

[Jairzinho]

5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Still apples and pears though IMO, it's easy to forget the depravity of the previous mob.

 

The likes of Steeting and Kendall are old school centre right turds spouting semi-understood dogma, they're not giving billion pound contracts to their golf buddies for stuff they know doesn't work, then laughing aboit people's grandmothers dying en masse.

 

It's a low bar I know.

 

It's a low bar but almost as dangerous when they're representing the Labour Party. Where the fuck can people go with this voting system? Vote Green and chuck your vote in the bin, get completely disengaged with the entire system which only helps the right, or, in the case of the criminally thick, vote Reform.

 

It's really fucking bad news having these utter cunts in the Labour Party.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7ejvr3y0zo

 

Says the friendless, nasty school sneak Streeting, hated more by the teachers than the bullies.

Mind, he will be there with expense allowance topped up to the max every month and will be one of all the MP's in attendance when there's a vote on MP's pay.

[redinblack]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

 

It's a low bar but almost as dangerous when they're representing the Labour Party. Where the fuck can people go with this voting system? Vote Green and chuck your vote in the bin, get completely disengaged with the entire system which only helps the right, or, in the case of the criminally thick, vote Reform.

 

It's really fucking bad news having these utter cunts in the Labour Party.

I just feel stateless now 

 

I will never ever vote Tory. That will never happen ever. It's just not possible.

 

The Tories had to go. They were a bunch of fucking thieves. Labour was the only way to get them out.

 

And now Labour continues with the time honoured practice of punching downwards.

 

So somebody so shameless that he would pay money to walk Johnsons dog, somebody so lacking in self respect, can in all seriousness ask us how voting Labour has gone 

 

Fuck you Starmer Streeting and the lot of you you fucking cunts

[Section_31]

Glad to see there's proper pushback on this now, Reeves is just an orthodoxy automaton, no ideas just patter. Growth, fiscal responsibility, 'red tape'. Nibbling around the edges bullshit. 

[Jairzinho]

10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Glad to see there's proper pushback on this now, Reeves is just an orthodoxy automaton, no ideas just patter. Growth, fiscal responsibility, 'red tape'. Nibbling around the edges bullshit. 

 

Reform couldn't possibly hope for a better recruitment tool (with emphasis on the word "tool") than Reeves.

[Section_31]

7 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

Reform couldn't possibly hope for a better recruitment tool (with emphasis on the word "tool") than Reeves.

 

The bonkers bit about that though is that (a) they don't have any economic policies at all and (b) if they did they'd be even more right wing than her. 

[Jairzinho]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

 

The bonkers bit about that though is that (a) they don't have any economic policies at all and (b) if they did they'd be even more right wing than her. 

 

Yes, but that doesn't matter for them does it? It's like Trump, Bolsonaro or any of the other right wing nutters. They don't need policies to attract voters, they just need to point out issues with their centre/centre right counterparts. 

 

And it's easy for them because said centre/centre right counterparts are doing absolutely fuck all for the majority of people. 

[etho]

This is the weird thing. Reform aren’t going to offer the people who are going to vote for them anything they want. In fact fuck knows what they will offer when the time comes, which is surely will now?

Will be an absolute car crash, it’s a party full of half wits. In fact be the absolute end of this country.

 

Not sure what Labour are hoping to achieve with this again, similar to the pension cuts. I actually think too many people don’t work. But the reasons are valid in most cases. There is a mental health epidemic in this country caused specifically by years of fucking austerity. If you hammer people into the ground and make life unbearably bleak for them what do you expect. Half the people in the town I grew up have crack and heroin related mental health issues now

[Arniepie]

8 hours ago, etho said:

This is the weird thing. Reform aren’t going to offer the people who are going to vote for them anything they want. In fact fuck knows what they will offer when the time comes, which is surely will now?

Will be an absolute car crash, it’s a party full of half wits. In fact be the absolute end of this country.

 

Not sure what Labour are hoping to achieve with this again, similar to the pension cuts. I actually think too many people don’t work. But the reasons are valid in most cases. There is a mental health epidemic in this country caused specifically by years of fucking austerity. If you hammer people into the ground and make life unbearably bleak for them what do you expect. Half the people in the town I grew up have crack and heroin related mental health issues now

You are trying to reason with people who think the immigration crises can be solved by turning boats back in the channel

[Arniepie]

the tories were ,mainly,booted out because they were absolute cunts.

 

labours solution is apparently to follow in their footsteps.

[AngryofTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

the tories were ,mainly,booted out because they were absolute cunts.

 

labours solution is apparently to follow in their footsteps.

The guiding principle really should be - What would the Tories do? Let's do the opposite.

 

My worry is that the Starmerites might genuinely believe that they have an overwhelming public mandate for this shit. They need enough humility to recognise that the last election was more about the Tories losing than Starmer winning.

[Arniepie]

1 minute ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The guiding principle really should be - What would the Tories do? Let's do the opposite.

 

My worry is that the Starmerites might genuinely believe that they have an overwhelming public mandate for this shit. They need enough humility to recognise that the last election was more about the Tories losing than Starmer winning.

this is a depressing read

 

Many said the Starmer era would be just Tory-lite – now it’s worse than that. Time to stop the pretence | Nesrine Malik | The Guardian

[littletedwest]

His mandate was to do something different. After a promising start he's reverted back to attacking the disabled, spending cuts and everything is the fault of the civil service.

[Harry's Lad]

Those with the broadest shoulders should carry more of the burden my arse. 

 

The Labour Party has been hijacked by right leaning liars who like the Tories see the sick and disabled as easy targets.

 

This current lot disgust me and I can't in good conscience have anything to do with them.

 

I've just resigned my membership.

 

[Leyton388]

I've voted Labour my entire adult life and I will never support them for as long as I live now. I am absolutely disgusted and ashamed to have anything to do with them.

 

They are just Red Tories.

 

 

[Bjornebye]

Claw back the deficit by taxing the Tory donors properly and getting back all the billions stolen during Covid you fucking shithouses 
 

[Jairzinho]

Four years with a massive majority. They're going to use the time making the lives of society's most vulnerable slightly worse, and ensuring the far right gains traction.

 

Fantastic stuff.

[Bossy]

How about left wing MPs/councillors/,members etc form a new party and really piss Starmer and co off by calling it New Labour.

[Megadrive Man]

I've never been fully on board with Starmer's Labour, but I didn't think that they would be this bad.

 

They are so scared of keeping the right wing media and red wall potential Reform voters happy that they are replicating if not out Torying the Tories on major issues and completely forgetting what they are supposed to stand for. 

[Megadrive Man]

Saw this earlier too.

 

Let's just hope the Banks don't fuck up and completely crash the economy

 

again...

 

[Arniepie]

20 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

I've never been fully on board with Starmer's Labour, but I didn't think that they would be this bad.

 

They are so scared of keeping the right wing media and red wall potential Reform voters happy that they are replicating if not out Torying the Tories on major issues and completely forgetting what they are supposed to stand for. 

and opening the door for reform

[Harry's Lad]

Stephen Flynn of the SNP once said on Question Time that Starmer was David Cameron with a red tie.

How right he was.

I can't believe the party I have supported all my life could stoop so low. 

Fucking shameful.

 

 

[Moo]

2 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

I've never been fully on board with Starmer's Labour, but I didn't think that they would be this bad.

 

They are so scared of keeping the right wing media and red wall potential Reform voters happy that they are replicating if not out Torying the Tories on major issues and completely forgetting what they are supposed to stand for. 

 

I'm feeling pretty naive at the moment but still hoping my gut feeling will be right, that Labour will need more than one term to achieve anything positive so they will simply have to do unpleasant things to appeal to unpleasant people and temper the right wing attacks.  Anything genuinely "good" will have to be done with no fanfare, almost by stealth and be prefaced with some headline grabbing nastiness.

I have never been onboard with Starmer ever and I don't like him at all, but I do think he's an intelligent man and has to find other ways to skin a cat.

I might be wishful thinking.