Tony Gordon- Welcome to Liverpool

[joe_fishfish]

3 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

He's really not. It's Bruno Fernandes by a considerable distance and then a sliding scale that Gordon's high on the upper end of along with the likes of Maddison, Grealish and Havertz. Loads of people would say Salah, which, as we watch him constantly, is obviously bollocks. 

 

And, to your other question, I couldn't give a shit whether he dives too much. I'm sick of us being a soft touch when everyone else uses every trick in the book. It's cost us titles. 

 

 

He's the worst in the sense that he does it a lot and he's absolute shite at it. Has received loads of yellows for diving already.

 

The refs find Bruno more believable, basically. I don't get how, he's obvious as fuck, but he doesn't get carded for it.

[Chris]

3 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

He's the worst in the sense that he does it a lot and he's absolute shite at it. Has received loads of yellows for diving already.

 

The refs find Bruno more believable, basically. I don't get how, he's obvious as fuck, but he doesn't get carded for it.

 

He's a young lad, he'll improve!

[El Rojo]

6 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

He's the worst in the sense that he does it a lot and he's absolute shite at it. Has received loads of yellows for diving already.

 

The refs find Bruno more believable, basically. I don't get how, he's obvious as fuck, but he doesn't get carded for it.

Probably one for the amnesty thread, but Fernandes is excellent. Never injured and they’d have finished in bottom half without him in the season just gone.

 

It’s hilarious how snide most top level Portuguese players are, including one of our own. They bring it to a different level.

 

[VladimirIlyich]

21 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

He's really not. It's Bruno Fernandes by a considerable distance and then a sliding scale that Gordon's high on the upper end of along with the likes of Maddison, Grealish and Havertz. Loads of people would say Salah, which, as we watch him constantly, is obviously bollocks. 

 

And, to your other question, I couldn't give a shit whether he dives too much. I'm sick of us being a soft touch when everyone else uses every trick in the book. It's cost us titles. 

 

 

I was going to say that despite how that 'horrible foreigner' Salah is painted he goes to ground comparatively little in actual fact. Obviously English players don't dive as it's just foreigners!

As for Gordon,if it was Klopp who was genuinely interested in signing him I'd be ok as he'd cut a lot of the unnecessary shit out. Arne may be the same but at the beginning of his tenure I don't believe he'd clamp down on this stuff to start with.

[Torvald Utne]

I just don't like his face. No other reason.

[Code]

Remember Gordon has been under the influence of Ashley Young for a while. 

[Smell The Glove]

11 minutes ago, Code said:

Remember Gordon has been under the influence of Ashley Young for a while. 

Lampard was a big influence on him and he's just gone from strength to strength since then. I'm sure Everton had half the yellow cards for diving the season they were nearly flushed.

[Smell The Glove]

16 minutes ago, Torvald Utne said:

I just don't like his face. No other reason.

As good a reason as any.

[Ronnie Whelan]

Gordon is a very good player who could become really top class. He's a local lad who supports us. He knows the city.

 

Souness would break his granny's legs to win a match. Our teams of the 60s, 70s and 80s had more than him who would do that too. Jimmy Case and Tommy Smith were right up there as the biggest hardmen in the game. McMahon and Whelan used to cynically take it in turns to dish out nasty tackles on opponents. It was part of a different era. 

 

Diving is horrendous. I hate what Gordon has done in the past. However, it is part of the game and until the authorities get hold of it by dealing with it asap on the pitch or retrospectively, I don't really give a shit if it benefits us. We seem to come out the wrong side of most of these decisions. Last year, our form went to shite with a few games to go, but imagine if that Spurs away game cost us the league. It would have been horrendous. Jota and Robbo are the only snides we have. Maybe, we have a few that can be snidey on their day, but we lag far behind the vast majority of teams in the league.

 

This notion of us being above cheating is laughable. I loved Suarez and he's one of the greatest snides of all time.

[Bobby Hundreds]

It feels like an expensive unimaginative signing. I just don't feel inspired by the guy for the fee he would inevitably cost and another player on the left, we are sinking portside here why spend 80 million plus for the smallest margin of growth. Salahs side needs addressing and I'll say it forever a genuine quality 6 type player would be my number one choice, no fucking little guys who weigh 9 stone doing tippy tappy shit, this team needs to toughen up, we can't fill it with a load of waif like kids. This side feels so unbalanced.

[Bob]

44 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

He's really not. It's Bruno Fernandes by a considerable distance and then a sliding scale that Gordon's high on the upper end of along with the likes of Maddison, Grealish and Havertz. Loads of people would say Salah, which, as we watch him constantly, is obviously bollocks. 

 

And, to your other question, I couldn't give a shit whether he dives too much. I'm sick of us being a soft touch when everyone else uses every trick in the book. It's cost us titles. 

 

 

Just to be clear, you're right on fernandez, but Gordon is right with him. 

 

I would also be dead against us signing him or maddison too.

 

I've never really botices haevertz diving, but I think he's shit, so I'm against him too.

 

And grealish I think does actually just get fouled a lot, but those fouls are soft and wouldn't be given if he played for us.

[Ronnie Whelan]

4 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

It feels like an expensive unimaginative signing. I just don't feel inspired by the guy for the fee he would inevitably cost and another player on the left, we are sinking portside here why spend 80 million plus for the smallest margin of growth. Salahs side needs addressing and I'll say it forever a genuine quality 6 type player would be my number one choice, no fucking little guys who weigh 9 stone doing tippy tappy shit, this team needs to toughen up, we can't fill it with a load of waif like kids. This side feels so unbalanced.

I agree totally with your priorities. 

A world class number 6 is number one on the list. I'd love a really good centre half as well - an experienced top class one is my preference unless that French kid is as good as they say - seems to be holding out for Real.  Virgil is still very good, but he's on rhe slide and Gomez is likely going to pick up injuries. Big Bird needs replacing. Quansah is brilliant for his age, but not beyond the realms that he's marshalling a defence if Virgil or Gomez were injured. We need to get that strong spine back. I know he's not experienced so I probably am contadicting myself and I know they would never sell to us, but that Braithwaite would be a good signing imo. I think he's got a very high ceiling.

 

I'd tell Gordon we'll come for him in 2025 and hold tight.

[3 Stacks]

CB doesn't look like much of a priority. The interest in Yoro is stated as just a "unique opportunity". 

 

Gordon also feels like the same. Based on the fact Newcastle had a need to sell. 

 

Transfers are alot about timing. When the time isn't right anymore, you don't automatically stay interested in someone.

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, El Dangerous said:

Some of our fans ability to pretend that Suarez wasn’t a horrible little cunt is frankly embarrassing. He was a horrible little cunt and we loved him for it, even after he tried to join the most average Arsenal side ever ffs.

Suarez was a cunt, but he was our cunt. It would be the same if we sign Gordon, he'd be here 5 minutes and people would love it. If he stays at Newcastle he'd still be just a cunt. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I hated him at Everton, same at Newcastle, but I'd be made up if he signed for us.

 

Hypocrisy is a football fan's stock in trade.

[Elite]

There's a real lack of top attackers on the market, as we've seen with loads of flops in the £70m-£90m price range. I'd prefer to take the risk on a prem proven young lad with bags of potential than take another overseas punt because everyone of them is a risk.

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Chris said:

 

Jota's was awful the other night, but he plays for us so it's fine. Szobozslai is bad for it too. It'd be the same with Gordon. We'd all make excuses or do mental gymnastics when it comes to our players, like we always do. Acting like we're above it is preposterous. 

It's not just the diving.

And whilst I can appreciate he is a decent player,I still think he is a particularly dislikeable cunt

[Ronnie Whelan]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

CB doesn't look like much of a priority. The interest in Yoro is stated as just a "unique opportunity". 

 

Gordon also feels like the same. Based on the fact Newcastle had a need to sell. 

 

Transfers are alot about timing. When the time isn't right anymore, you don't automatically stay interested in someone.

I think we need to plan for a life without Virgil, or at least him playing a lot less. Buying a top centre half, or at least one with a massive ceiling like Braithwaite, or Yoro (never seen him play)  makes sense this summer imo. We have lost a top class cb from the squad in Big Bird (I know I know he was injured a lot) and we have Virgil who is still very good but is likely to start picking up more injuries and is less likely to be the dominant defender he once was, plus Gomez who has a poor injury record. We really need another cb of quality in there.

[Lee909]

If we are relying on Konate and Gomez(who has been shit as a CB for a good while) cone September we could have some serious issues in Quansah doesn't kick on or Virg gets hurt

[VladimirIlyich]

1 minute ago, Lee909 said:

If we are relying on Konate and Gomez(who has been shit as a CB for a good while) cone September we could have some serious issues in Quansah doesn't kick on or Virg gets hurt

As it always is at Liverpool under FSG. Seasons of success mixed with so many missed opportunities. Hopefully the success will continue but the missed opportunities will become fewer.

[Code]

3 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

As it always is at Liverpool under FSG. Seasons of success mixed with so many missed opportunities. Hopefully the success will continue but the missed opportunities will become fewer.

If we dont buy a CB we go into this season the same way we did last season.

 

No one counted on Quansah last summer. He is the one replacing Matip. 

[3 Stacks]

27 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

I think we need to plan for a life without Virgil, or at least him playing a lot less. Buying a top centre half, or at least one with a massive ceiling like Braithwaite, or Yoro (never seen him play)  makes sense this summer imo. We have lost a top class cb from the squad in Big Bird (I know I know he was injured a lot) and we have Virgil who is still very good but is likely to start picking up more injuries and is less likely to be the dominant defender he once was, plus Gomez who has a poor injury record. We really need another cb of quality in there.

The argument is there to always buy top prospects at any position. There's no doubt we should try to buy a potential top CB. But it's always the same, when you already have the numbers at the position, which we technically do, 4 with Gomez, it's easy for the club to not do anything if the circumstances are not absolutely perfect for a transfer to happen.

[Barrington Womble]

21 minutes ago, Code said:

If we dont buy a CB we go into this season the same way we did last season.

 

No one counted on Quansah last summer. He is the one replacing Matip. 

It's not exactly the same at all. Konate has.gone backwards. Matip played the first half of the season job sharing with konate. You didn't count on quansah, but klopp did. 

[TheHowieLama]

That he is not known as Tony "Flash" Gordon is a travesty.

[Code]

20 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

It's not exactly the same at all. Konate has.gone backwards. Matip played the first half of the season job sharing with konate. You didn't count on quansah, but klopp did. 

Nah.

 

Qansah had 15 games in League One for Bristol Rovers as his only first team action before last season, he got his chance at the start of last season because of a combination of injuries and red cards. 
 

He was the promising youngster that was seen as solid enough to cover as 5th choice CB behind Van Dijk, Matip, Konate and Gomez. 
 

We still have Van Dijk, Konate, Quansah and Gomez and also Van Berg and other youngsters at the moment.