Lucy Letby

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

And tend to come down to simply he said Vs she said. 
 

I’d suggest there’s far more ‘evidence’ in this case. 
 

Would you advocate not attempting to prosecute historical sex offence cases? 
 

 

ETA: I know you wouldn’t mate, wasn’t trying to be a cunt, just pointing out that complex cases still need to be tried. 

I'd disagree that there's more evidence in this case.

 

Granted, I haven't paid very close attention to it, but from what I've seen there's no evidence that any child was murdered and there's no evidence that Letby did anything wrong.  

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I haven’t really followed this at all, which position should I take in order to annoy the most people?

That you wouldn't rattle her, but Lady Justice Thirlwall would get a game.

[lifetime fan]

3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I'd disagree that there's more evidence in this case.

 

Granted, I haven't paid very close attention to it, but from what I've seen there's no evidence that any child was murdered and there's no evidence that Letby did anything wrong.  

How? 

[Bjornebye]

Fuck all you bastards I’m sticking with the GOAT 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Fuck all you bastards I’m sticking with the GOAT 

Foxy Knoxy is elite in the murderer game. 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Foxy Knoxy is elite in the murderer game. 

Im just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh lord please let her break into my house with a knife 

[Bjornebye]

“Bjornebye I’ve rang the police why are you taking your boxies off?!!!” 
 

 

[Fugitive]

4 hours ago, Moctezuma said:

Is that UK only? 1 newborn baby is dying among 68 people in the  population?

No, that is globally.

 

The UK ranks well globally, however, whilst the rate of neonatal mortality has improved since 1990, latest figures stand at 3 per 1,000 live births.

 

There was 600000 live births in 2022 so that equates to 1800 deaths per year in the UK.

[lifetime fan]

34 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Fuck all you bastards I’m sticking with the GOAT 

No chance. 
 

The OG and filthiest/mentalist. 
 

 

[lifetime fan]

Turning up to court with your nips on show is bonus points too. 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I haven’t really followed this at all, which position should I take in order to annoy the most people?

That's always my starting position and then I dig and dig until a Beach Head has been created and warheads are in place on the strategic high ground overlooking Goose Green.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

or Port Stanley.

As we all love a war

[VladimirIlyich]

On 04/09/2024 at 08:38, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Birmingham Six

Guildford Four

etc

 

British legal history has got a fair few grotesque miscarriages of justice.

But the important thing is to be one of the cool kids who were "in on the ground floor".

Whatever happened there were poor innocent infants who are now in the ground due to somebody or something and their loved ones deserve the truth to appear as quickly as possible.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

All we need is for Lucy Letby to get shot on her way from the prison to the van to take her to court by a bereaved mother called Jackie Ruby to have a 288 podcast and website extravaganza for the next 70 years, by which time the human race will have died through basic conspiratorial stupidity.

People will be denouncing family and friends to The Star as knowing who did it and why and some poor old cleaner from Hoole Village will have a documentary made about her in 2031 with that absolute helmet David Wilson and his then sidekick Kate Garroway saying "it's clear to me on the evidence provided by some blerts on TLW that Agnes Mary Tittingham is clearly the prime suspect because she was in the hospital cleaning wards on at least 4 days when the deaths occurred".

And then some socially inept no life  virgin cunts can say "Ah now, I was in on the Agnes Mary Tittingham prime suspect website thing from the start, so write a book about me"

[Toxteth O'Grady]

It's pretty similar to that time when I was out, came home and my German Shepherd was anxious for me to let him out to bark at the back fence and wanting me to go and investigate a possible break in that he'd obviously chased off.

It's only when I got in and he's still barking outside that I noticed the puddle of piss on the mat by the fire that I realised that while I'd been out, somebody had scaled the back fence, unlocked the back door, pissed on the carpet, scarpered out, locked the back door, whist being able to put the key back in the lock and all the time, my fucking guard dog who normally tries to eat his way through the door of anyone comes within 50 yards of the house....was asleep through it all.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Fuck all you bastards I’m sticking with the GOAT 

Not a CILF, though; just an ILF.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

58 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Whatever happened there were poor innocent infants who are now in the ground due to somebody or something and their loved ones deserve the truth to appear as quickly as possible.

Absolutely.  My worry is that if the main reason was a critical care unit that was stretched beyond breaking point, that's what needs to be addressed to prevent further deaths.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Foxy Knoxy is elite in the murderer game. 

She kind of falls down on the murdering part.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

How? 

In historical sex cases there are statements from victims, giving detailed accounts of what happened.  These are often corroborated by statements from witnesses, hospital reports, police reports, etc and even confessions from the perpetrator.

 

In this case (unless I'm missing something) there is... nothing. Not just nothing to attach blame to Letby, but also nothing to suggest any of the babies had been deliberately harmed.

 

Again, I stress that I haven't followed this closely. I'm basically saying that I haven't seen any evidence in the headlines or in this thread.

[lifetime fan]

19 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

In historical sex cases there are statements from victims, giving detailed accounts of what happened.  These are often corroborated by statements from witnesses, hospital reports, police reports, etc and even confessions from the perpetrator.

 

In this case (unless I'm missing something) there is... nothing. Not just nothing to attach blame to Letby, but also nothing to suggest any of the babies had been deliberately harmed.

 

Again, I stress that I haven't followed this closely. I'm basically saying that I haven't seen any evidence in the headlines or in this thread.

Maybe read the report Rico posted. 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

9 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Absolutely.  My worry is that if the main reason was a critical care unit that was stretched beyond breaking point, that's what needs to be addressed to prevent further deaths.

Mal, as we've discussed and pointed out earlier. there have been gross miscarriages of justice within the British Justice system, examples given earlier, obvious ones.

But, you would have to concede, would you not that they were both historical in the sense that evidence was both tenuous, circumstantial but not scientific or even properly collated and in many cases Political where a fit up or a confession was either necessary or evidence was manufactured to fit a particular outcome,.

Look at the unsafe convictions, they are either bent coppers looking to fit up known Lags for an easy day with no interest in justice. Politically motivated fit ups because anyone Irish was a terrorist and anyone Irish will do, or, in some instances, pick on the vulnerable, low intelligence local oddball just to get a conviction.

All of the scenarios have happened and been proved to have happened, but in each and every case, there was a political or shady motive behind it.

This is 2023.24, this is the digital age, confessions aren't beaten out of old Irish men for political means or to clear up the books.

So...qui bono?

Now, I can see why Timothy Evans was fitted up and hung.

I can see why the 4 fellas were fitted up for the Carl Bridgewater murder.

Different times, pre- PACE, confessions were extracted by criminal means by Police Officers who were criminals themselves...

But this is a different age, with different rules of evidence and no politically driven motives, so I ask the question, why would anyone go out of their way to fit up Lucy Letby  who is nobody, with no political value at all and why, other than a sense of looking for a needle in a haystack, would you go out on all 8 limbs to put your balls in the fire for a case where the evidence seemed good enough for a jury to convict her?

I only ask this of you because you are intelligent and worth the time, the other fuckers doing the conspiracy thing are mental and need help.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

Maybe read the report Rico posted. 

I'm really not that arsed. And I wouldn't necessarily take a judge's summary as a balanced presentation of all relevant facts in any case.

 

My understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that none of the babies' deaths was considered suspicious.  That leaves, as evidence, a potentially spurious use of statistics and some scribbled notes.  I don't consider that to be compelling.  I think she might have a case for an appeal.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

Mal, as we've discussed and pointed out earlier. there have been gross miscarriages of justice within the British Justice system, examples given earlier, obvious ones.

But, you would have to concede, would you not that they were both historical in the sense that evidence was both tenuous, circumstantial but not scientific or even properly collated and in many cases Political where a fit up or a confession was either necessary or evidence was manufactured to fit a particular outcome,.

Look at the unsafe convictions, they are either bent coppers looking to fit up known Lags for an easy day with no interest in justice. Politically motivated fit ups because anyone Irish was a terrorist and anyone Irish will do, or, in some instances, pick on the vulnerable, low intelligence local oddball just to get a conviction.

All of the scenarios have happened and been proved to have happened, but in each and every case, there was a political or shady motive behind it.

This is 2023.24, this is the digital age, confessions aren't beaten out of old Irish men for political means or to clear up the books.

So...qui bono?

Now, I can see why Timothy Evans was fitted up and hung.

I can see why the 4 fellas were fitted up for the Carl Bridgewater murder.

Different times, pre- PACE, confessions were extracted by criminal means by Police Officers who were criminals themselves...

But this is a different age, with different rules of evidence and no politically driven motives, so I ask the question, why would anyone go out of their way to fit up Lucy Letby  who is nobody, with no political value at all and why, other than a sense of looking for a needle in a haystack, would you go out on all 8 limbs to put your balls in the fire for a case where the evidence seemed good enough for a jury to convict her?

I only ask this of you because you are intelligent and worth the time, the other fuckers doing the conspiracy thing are mental and need help.

Nobody has gone out of their way to fit her up.  I don't believe it's anything personal against her.  I believe shit happens. 

 

As has happened in other cases, too much credibility gets given to "evidence" (such as claims about statistics) and once a narrative takes hold even meaningless things (like her scribbled notes) are seen as clinchers, if they support it.

 

(Also, I find your faith in "this is 2024, things like that don't happen these days" almost sweet!)

[lifetime fan]

6 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I'm really not that arsed. And I wouldn't necessarily take a judge's summary as a balanced presentation of all relevant facts in any case.

 

My understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that none of the babies' deaths was considered suspicious.  That leaves, as evidence, a potentially spurious use of statistics and some scribbled notes.  I don't consider that to be compelling.  I think she might have a case for an appeal.

Not that arsed but willing to argue it’s an unsafe conviction? Come on mate. 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

1 minute ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Nobody has gone out of their way to fit her up.  I don't believe it's anything personal against her.  I believe shit happens. 

 

As has happened in other cases, too much credibility gets given to "evidence" (such as claims about statistics) and once a narrative takes hold even meaningless things (like her scribbled notes) are seen as clinchers, if they support it.

 

(Also, I find your faith in "this is 2024, things like that don't happen these days" almost sweet!)

Mal.....

This is a quote from you 

"And I wouldn't necessarily take a judge's summary as a balanced presentation of all relevant facts in any case."

 

So basically the entire history of the Judiciary is wrong, even when it's right. because you have convinced yourself of something based on what?