Lucy Letby

[Mudface]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Thing that makes me wary about this is it seems to be the 15 minute city/anti-vax crowd that are largely interested in it. Maybe she discovered something about big pharma and the legacy media and needed to be silenced. 

 

Ah, but they're free thinkers, they've DONE THEIR OWN RESEARCH and are just asking questions. They've found the concealed truths us normies aren't clever enough to see.

[Binomial]

8 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

If she gets away with it it will be down to a completely shoddy trial and not the fact she’s innocent. 

Which is probably why this case needs to be retrialed, so be it if it takes another 10 months. 

 

Not to say she’s innocent or guilty but the statistical analysis that was used as the final nail to convict her was flawed because it’s still not documented what happened to the other half of babies who died when she wasn’t on shift. 

As far as the pages and pages of notes go, it’s been said Letby told the court they were written under therapeutic advice to help her through stress.

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Binomial said:

Which is probably why this case needs to be retrialed, so be it if it takes another 10 months. 

 

Not to say she’s innocent or guilty but the statistical analysis that was used as the final nail to convict her was flawed because it’s still not documented what happened to the other half of babies who died when she wasn’t on shift. 

As far as the pages and pages of notes go, it’s been said Letby told the court they were written under therapeutic advice to help her through stress.

I think it should go back to trial. Mainly for that reason. Every single minute detail of every child’s death needs to be scrutinised. I genuinely hope she’s innocent and if she is she gets justice and a full pardon from the baying public. 
 

It just so happens that I think she’s guilty. 
 

[Section_31]

Footage of me last week visiting Letby in Wentworth while Foxy Knoxy waited in the car.

 

 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

It's just like when Lee Harvey Oswald was fitted up for firing three shots from his own rifle, that he bought, from the place he worked in, with bullets that he handled, that he was seen leaning out of the window firing and that had his palm prints all over it and fibres from his clothing all over it and then he fucked off to be the only person not accounted for in the whole of the Texas Book Depository Staff.

But Pastie.

But Ruby

But Vietnam.

But Physics defying bullet.

 

[Mudface]

13 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

It's just like when Lee Harvey Oswald was fitted up for firing three shots from his own rifle, that he bought, from the place he worked in, with bullets that he handled, that he was seen leaning out of the window firing and that had his palm prints all over it and fibres from his clothing all over it and then he fucked off to be the only person not accounted for in the whole of the Texas Book Depository Staff.

But Pastie.

But Ruby

But Vietnam.

But Physics defying bullet.

 

 

Oliver Stone's got a lot to answer for there. I know there were conspiracy theories all through the decades prior, but JFK was an absolutely ridiculous piece of fiction.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

8 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

Oliver Stone's got a lot to answer for there. I know there were conspiracy theories all through the decades prior, but JFK was an absolutely ridiculous piece of fiction.

Is right, fantastic film, loved it, still watch it now and then and back in 1991/2 it still had some credibility given that about polls within America up to that point (and  probably still are) showed at least a 70% belief in a conspiracy for the assassination of JFK.

'Back and to the left' ....no, not really, watch the Zapruder film and it's down and brains flying upwards. 

Since then, just about every 'anomaly' and conspiracy element has been debunked to the point of lunacy.

There's still a podcast called Americas Untold Stories with a Trump supporting, conspiracy loving lunatic called Mark Groubert, who actually gets people to pay him lots to read fringe books and claim the most ludicrous things as truths. 

I watched it for a weeks just to see what lengths he'd go to.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

42 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

Oliver Stone's got a lot to answer for there. I know there were conspiracy theories all through the decades prior, but JFK was an absolutely ridiculous piece of fiction.

According to him and Oliver Stone obviously, as he's good mates with him apparently, there were at least 6 shooters on the day in a 'Triangulation' (with at least 6?) of crossfire, on top the roof of every building and on the Grassy Knoll and on the bridge of the three lane Overpass and yet everyone in the area and every bit of acoustic evidence says there were 3 shots fired.

BUT... they used silencers apparently.

And then you ask, why were there only two wounds to Kennedy's body then?

They mostly missed.

Why did nobody see anybody on the top of the roof of any building then?

Dallas Police Force/CIA conspiracy.

How come both entrance wounds were to the back of Kennedy's body and all the bullet fragments to the front?

Conspiracy and surgery. Before the autopsy at Bethesda could be done, the Presidents body was stolen and surgery was performed on it.

Why, when at ground level, on the grassy knoll, when there were people standing there, did nobody see anyone firing a gun and why did no eye witness at all see anyone there?

They were dressed as tramps with silencers.

But if they missed from the grassy knoll and the were people standing directly in the line of fire behind the Presidential car did nobody either get hit or notice any bullets pass them?

Silencers and they hit the ground.

So there were 6 shooters, 5 with silencers and everyone only heard 3 shots and only two hit Kennedy from behind and a rifle was found with 3 bullet cases in a direct line of fire and Oswald was the only employee missing from the place where the shots came from....and you can say with a straight face that the Mafia and elements of the Military Industrial cold war machine did it?

And people pay you to continue this and it's 2024 and you tell people to support Trump?

Only in America.

Every fucking week people are giving this cunt a living to tell them that Oswald's body was exhumed and his feet were stolen and replaced and there were trained assassins everywhere with high powered rifles.

 

[Mudface]

6 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

According to him and Oliver Stone obviously, as he's good mates with him apparently, there were at least 6 shooters on the day in a 'Triangulation' (with at least 6?) of crossfire, on top the roof of every building and on the Grassy Knoll and on the bridge of the three lane Overpass and yet everyone in the area and every bit of acoustic evidence says there were 3 shots fired.

BUT... they used silencers apparently.

And then you ask, why were there only two wounds to Kennedy's body then?

They mostly missed.

Why did nobody see anybody on the top of the roof of any building then?

Dallas Police Force/CIA conspiracy.

How come both entrance wounds were to the back of Kennedy's body and all the bullet fragments to the front?

Conspiracy and surgery. Before the autopsy at Bethesda could be done, the Presidents body was stolen and surgery was performed on it.

Why, when at ground level, on the grassy knoll, when there were people standing there, did nobody see anyone firing a gun and why did no eye witness at all see anyone there?

They were dressed as tramps with silencers.

But if they missed from the grassy knoll and the were people standing directly in the line of fire behind the Presidential car did nobody either get hit or notice any bullets pass them?

Silencers and they hit the ground.

So there were 6 shooters, 5 with silencers and everyone only heard 3 shots and only two hit Kennedy from behind and a rifle was found with 3 bullet cases in a direct line of fire and Oswald was the only employee missing from the place where the shots came from....and you can say with a straight face that the Mafia and elements of the Military Industrial cold war machine did it?

And people pay you to continue this and it's 2024 and you tell people to support Trump?

Only in America.

Every fucking week people are giving this cunt a living to tell them that Oswald's body was exhumed and his feet were stolen and replaced and there were trained assassins everywhere with high powered rifles.

 

 

That's what I love about conspiracy theories- it's always some convoluted mess that dickheads believe in, rather than the more prosaic obvious reality.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

16 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

That's what I love about conspiracy theories- it's always some convoluted mess that dickheads believe in, rather than the more prosaic obvious happening.

Honestly Comrade, you should watch it through.

I did for a few weeks, just to see how fucking ludicrous it could get and what sort of excuses could be rustled up on the spot to defy logic and continue the war that America has waged upon intelligence for hundreds of years.

There's this oaf called Eric something who's ex-military (aren't they all?) and he's "thank you for your service" whenever some blert says "ah wuz a kernel in Nam"

but the real star of the show is Groubert who, when he's not spouting bizarre stuff is making sure everyone knows he's a New York Jew and everyone who doesn't believe him is an anti-semite and telling everyone it's anti-Trump conspiracy thing if you haven't read x.y and z books. All of which are fucking mind and truth bending nonsense.

 

EDIT...I forgot the best bit.

The Zapruder film was tampered with because he's Jewish and it was an anti-semitic fit up by anti-conspiracists

[Lee909]

2 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

 

But Physics defying bullet.

 

 

The bullet only doesn't defy physics if you a big NASA the earths a globe kind of guy. Everyone knows the earths a disc on the back of elephants flying through the cosmos on The Great A'Tuin

[Code]

Open day at the asylum?

[redheart]

16 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

It's just like when Lee Harvey Oswald was fitted up for firing three shots from his own rifle, that he bought, from the place he worked in, with bullets that he handled, that he was seen leaning out of the window firing and that had his palm prints all over it and fibres from his clothing all over it and then he fucked off to be the only person not accounted for in the whole of the Texas Book Depository Staff.

But Pastie.

But Ruby

But Vietnam.

But Physics defying bullet.

 

 

What kind of pastie?

 

I't thinking cheese and onion

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 04/09/2024 at 17:11, Section_31 said:

Thing that makes me wary about this is it seems to be the 15 minute city/anti-vax crowd that are largely interested in it. Maybe she discovered something about big pharma and the legacy media and needed to be silenced. 

Look beyond the idiots and look at the facts. There are a lot of things about this case that don't add up (not least, as far as I'm aware, the fact that not one of the deaths was considered suspicious at the time and the complete absence of any evidence of guilt).

[AngryOfTuebrook]

It's a wee bit odd that the inquiry into how she committed the crimes is starting at the same time as her new lawyer is preparing an appeal to determine whether she committed the crimes.

[SasaS]

59 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Look beyond the idiots and look at the facts. There are a lot of things about this case that don't add up (not least, as far as I'm aware, the fact that not one of the deaths was considered suspicious at the time and the complete absence of any evidence of guilt).

 

There is apparently a lot of circumstantial evidence.

[Bjornebye]

Has anyone asked whether you would or not yet? 

[M_B]

On 04/09/2024 at 06:32, skend04 said:

So the hospital directed Letby to write these notes, and what, have conveniently forgotten to tell the prosecution and defence that they told her to write these notes?

 

Haha, fucking hell. There are so many holes in these convictions, the defence should be charged with not being able to provide any sort of decent defence.

 

Christ - I've been doing psychotherapy for 9 years. If the notes I've written about my thoughts were used in evidence against me I'd never be allowed out of prison.

[Anubis]

I hadn't really followed the Letby trial, and have only recently started to look over the available evidence, and now some of the very experienced medical voices who are raising concerns about the manner of the daths, and I have to say I think there are a troubling number of growing questions over the safety of these convictions. The latest guardian article. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/08/a-superbug-doctor-shortages-and-a-neonatal-unit-out-of-its-depth-failures-at-lucy-letby-hospital-revealed#:~:text=The paediatric team of doctors,the end of June 2016.

[Kevin D]

6 hours ago, Anubis said:

I hadn't really followed the Letby trial, and have only recently started to look over the available evidence, and now some of the very experienced medical voices who are raising concerns about the manner of the daths, and I have to say I think there are a troubling number of growing questions over the safety of these convictions. The latest guardian article. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/08/a-superbug-doctor-shortages-and-a-neonatal-unit-out-of-its-depth-failures-at-lucy-letby-hospital-revealed#:~:text=The paediatric team of doctors,the end of June 2016.

Nutter.

[No2]

7 hours ago, Anubis said:

I hadn't really followed the Letby trial, and have only recently started to look over the available evidence, and now some of the very experienced medical voices who are raising concerns about the manner of the daths, and I have to say I think there are a troubling number of growing questions over the safety of these convictions. The latest guardian article. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/08/a-superbug-doctor-shortages-and-a-neonatal-unit-out-of-its-depth-failures-at-lucy-letby-hospital-revealed#:~:text=The paediatric team of doctors,the end of June 2016.

If any hospital in the NHS was studied as throughly as that one then the same failings would show up. The NHS has been torched but babies deaths didn't suddenly spiral like they did there.

 

In July 2016, about the time the RCPCH was asked to conduct its review, management at the CoC downgraded its neonatal unit to a level-one special care unit. This limited the premature babies that it took into its care to those born at 32 weeks’ gestation or over, an age where the medical complications and risks were much lower.

 

The RCPCH team found the unit more suited to that level, stating that “staff reported feeling calmer and more confident and morale/sickness has improved … The consultants also reported that in the two months since the change, infants have been sick but recovered as expected.”

 

Letby had been removed from the unit, coinciding with the downgrading to a lower level. The number of deaths fell thereafter.

 

Interesting narrative in that article. Personally I think removing the person making the babies sick and killing them, may have had more of an affect than regrading the hospital. Be interesting to know if the sewage problems and superbug were also eradicated too. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

There is apparently a lot of circumstantial evidence.

Not particularly compelling.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

39 minutes ago, No2 said:

If any hospital in the NHS was studied as throughly as that one then the same failings would show up. The NHS has been torched but babies deaths didn't suddenly spiral like they did there.

 

In July 2016, about the time the RCPCH was asked to conduct its review, management at the CoC downgraded its neonatal unit to a level-one special care unit. This limited the premature babies that it took into its care to those born at 32 weeks’ gestation or over, an age where the medical complications and risks were much lower.

 

The RCPCH team found the unit more suited to that level, stating that “staff reported feeling calmer and more confident and morale/sickness has improved … The consultants also reported that in the two months since the change, infants have been sick but recovered as expected.”

 

Letby had been removed from the unit, coinciding with the downgrading to a lower level. The number of deaths fell thereafter.

 

Interesting narrative in that article. Personally I think removing the person making the babies sick and killing them, may have had more of an affect than regrading the hospital. Be interesting to know if the sewage problems and superbug were also eradicated too. 

You're assuming that someone was deliberately harming babies.  Where's the evidence?

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Not particularly compelling.

 

It seems compelling enough for them to jail her for life.

 

My point is, the impression was they did not just want to scapegoat someone and then picked her for no reason, there was enough to make her the top candidate. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

22 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

It seems compelling enough for them to jail her for life.

 

My point is, the impression was they did not just want to scapegoat someone and then picked her for no reason, there was enough to make her the top candidate. 

My point is that there hasn't been any evidence made public that suggests anyone was murdered, let alone that Letby killed anyone.