Brighton (H) - Sun 31st Mar 2024 (2:00pm)

[razor]

12 hours ago, Code said:

It was almost like he was smiling every time he booked one of our players. 

 

That's not a smile, it's a grimace.  He looks like he's permanently on the verge of bursting into tears.

 

That's the inevitable outcome of the combination of an unfortunately framed face and a joyless existence.

 

Part of me hopes he gets therapy, the other half hopes he repeatedly stands on an upturned plug.

[Section_31]

Lallana

 

* shudders

[Smell The Glove]

11 hours ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Coote was weak as fuck today. At one point, Carragher was even suggesting he was being told about decisions in his ear piece.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. For me he's without doubt the worst ref in the league. Weak as piss who can easily be pressured into decisions. Being as weak as he is you would think he'd have learned by now not to book somebody early as he then gets railroaded by the crowd and players into booking everybody. He was definitely mercilessly bullied at school.

[Barrington Womble]

13 hours ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Coote was weak as fuck today. At one point, Carragher was even suggesting he was being told about decisions in his ear piece.

There was one incident in the game I said that to one of the lads, he'd not given a free kick (might have been Bradley on one of their players), you could see him put his hand to his ear and then he gave them the free kick. 

 

But back to the game. I enjoyed the game, they are a very good team with the ball. Utter shite without it. We need to get more ruthless if we're to win this league. We normally get quite ruthless this time of season, but there's no sign of it yet. 

[No2]

I watched the game on record knowing the result and somehow Coote still managed to infuriate me. That was as bad as the refereeing performance against Villa where that cunt deliberately set out to show Jurgen who's boss. As well as the ref we had Sky not showing replays for our offsides and 3 or 4 nothing fouls and finally a non corner that Bradley looked totally bemused by. Even the language the commentator was using was suspicious, calling close offsides clear offsides and then showing no replays. 

 

I actually felt sorry for Welbeck, he got booked for telling ref to send off Mac Allister. He must have been thinking why are booking me when we have literally told you what to do for the entire and you have obliged. 

[Rushies tash]

3 minutes ago, No2 said:

I watched the game on record knowing the result and somehow Coote still managed to infuriate me. That was as bad as the refereeing performance against Villa where that cunt deliberately set out to show Jurgen who's boss. As well as the ref we had Sky not showing replays for our offsides and 3 or 4 nothing fouls and finally a non corner that Bradley looked totally bemused by. Even the language the commentator was using was suspicious, calling close offsides clear offsides and then showing no replays. 

 

I actually felt sorry for Welbeck, he got booked for telling ref to send off Mac Allister. He must have been thinking why are booking me when we have literally told you what to do for the entire and you have obliged. 

 

Yeah, I'm getting suspicious about this shite as well. I can see one thing clearly on the screen, and a commentator saying something else. Some of it may be confirmation bias, but not all - especially when they don't show it again.

[LFC 6 Times]

Bradley, Macca, Quansah and Diaz absolutely brilliant. Massive win, on we roll.

[Fowlers God]

On 31/03/2024 at 15:40, Bruce Spanner said:

Without hyperbole we could realistically have Englands centre back pairing for the next 7/8 years if Gomez keeps this up as well.

 

They’ve both been very, very good all season without any drama or fuss.

 

Quansah looks like he’s just sponging off Van Dijk at every turn and learning everything and mimicking it.

 

Lovely stuff.

I couldn't give two flying fucking fucks about Engerlund. 
I want x2 CB to make the longest lasting partnership At LFC

On 01/04/2024 at 03:36, Bob said:

Of all the shit ref rubbish today what pissed me off most was our disallowed goal. First half he played an advantage for them that he waited an.age to let see if it developed in their favour before ultimately giving them the free kick he was absolutely fucking desperate to award.

 

For our disallowed goal, Mo touches the ball twice and about 1 second elapses between the foul on Darwin and Diaz being offside. Where's our fucking advantage?

 

If he's offside, there's no advantage, give us the free kick.

this 100%. Where was the advantage. If it's offside there is no advantage. For me it's a FK on Darwin therefore 

[DaveT]

2 minutes ago, Fowlers God said:

I couldn't give two flying fucking fucks about Engerlund. 
I want x2 CB to make the longest lasting partnership At LFC

this 100%. Where was the advantage. If it's offside there is no advantage. For me it's a FK on Darwin therefore 

Either way, why no yellow card for arguably the worst foul of the afternoon? Or is there another obscure loophole I’m not aware of?

[Barrington Womble]

13 minutes ago, DaveT said:

Either way, why no yellow card for arguably the worst foul of the afternoon? Or is there another obscure loophole I’m not aware of?

He was booked.

 

And personally I thought the ref made the right decision. He allowed the ball to Salah as play on. Salah then doesn't release it quite quickly enough, so Diaz is offside. That's not the refs fault. He gave Salah the advantage, the offside would be no different to him having a shot and missing to me. 

 

 

[Jose Jones]

8 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He was booked.

 

And personally I thought the ref made the right decision. He allowed the ball to Salah as play on. Salah then doesn't release it quite quickly enough, so Diaz is offside. That's not the refs fault. He gave Salah the advantage, the offside would be no different to him having a shot and missing to me. 

 

 

Yep the only problem was it was obviously onside. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, Jose Jones said:

Yep the only problem was it was obviously onside. 

Was it? I saw it on ref watch yesterday quickly and while it looked tight, it didn't really look like one of those where they've drawn the lines badly. 

[Bob]

47 minutes ago, DaveT said:

Either way, why no yellow card for arguably the worst foul of the afternoon? Or is there another obscure loophole I’m not aware of?

I'm pretty sure he did book him while the var check went on. 

[Bob]

31 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He was booked.

 

And personally I thought the ref made the right decision. He allowed the ball to Salah as play on. Salah then doesn't release it quite quickly enough, so Diaz is offside. That's not the refs fault. He gave Salah the advantage, the offside would be no different to him having a shot and missing to me. 

 

 

He made the right decision initially, but there wasn't an advantage if within a second of the foul the opposition get the ball for an offside. How is that an advantage?

 

It also wasn't te refs fault Brighton fucked about and didn't use the ball when he played advantage to them in the first half. Still brought it back for a foul 5 or 6 seconds later.

 

I just don't think you should be able to have it both ways.

 

If you're waiting to see if an.advamtage results, wait. If Diaz is onside but hits his shot wide, fair enough. 

 

Even if Mo holds onto the ball a few seconds then plays it to an offside Diaz, I guess that's fair enough too. But he took one touch, then passed it in the space of less than a second. If what's required is instant perfection then is it really an advantage?

[Jose Jones]

37 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Was it? I saw it on ref watch yesterday quickly and while it looked tight, it didn't really look like one of those where they've drawn the lines badly. 

Well I’m sure some people will try to argue that by the letter of the law it is off. But come on.

 

[manwiththestick]

3 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Well I’m sure some people will try to argue that by the letter of the law it is off. But come on.

 

Tierney was never favouring the attacking side there.

 

I'm convinced when it's that close, Stockleigh Park can add the lines to back up either decision.

[TheHowieLama]

On 31/03/2024 at 11:14, TheHowieLama said:

the offside rubbish is the easiest way to put your thumb on the scale 

 

Arsenal played on in the next match on one closer.

[AHA]

Have only just seen the Salah penalty incident. How is that not given. Clear as day gets past the defender and then brought down. Not sure it went to VAR but if it did and was still not given then it makes you wonder how Salah is ever getting one.

[sir roger]

I think it was Dave a month or two back who mentioned that there seems to be a set policy by PGMOL to go with the onfield decisions regarding penalties,  and not get VAR involved, and I haven't noticed any exceptions to the rule since he said it.

[Barrington Womble]

4 hours ago, Bob said:

He made the right decision initially, but there wasn't an advantage if within a second of the foul the opposition get the ball for an offside. How is that an advantage?

 

It also wasn't te refs fault Brighton fucked about and didn't use the ball when he played advantage to them in the first half. Still brought it back for a foul 5 or 6 seconds later.

 

I just don't think you should be able to have it both ways.

 

If you're waiting to see if an.advamtage results, wait. If Diaz is onside but hits his shot wide, fair enough. 

 

Even if Mo holds onto the ball a few seconds then plays it to an offside Diaz, I guess that's fair enough too. But he took one touch, then passed it in the space of less than a second. If what's required is instant perfection then is it really an advantage?

 

It's an advantage because Salah was in a great position. He didn't make the most of it, because his pass wasn't early enough. It's no different to a shat that's wide. I don't recall their one, so I can't comment on it. But that might not have been an advantage because the referee was clearly not giving lots of decisions and waiting till someone in his ear piece told him what to do. 

 

4 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Well I’m sure some people will try to argue that by the letter of the law it is off. But come on.

 

Offside is a binary choice though. Where they draw the lines isn't, but the one I saw with the lines drawn looked reasonable, even if it was really tight, the smallest of margins. And the ref on the field gave it off, so I can't get too arsed about it anyway. With no VAR it is offside. 

 

4 hours ago, manwiththestick said:

Tierney was never favouring the attacking side there.

 

I'm convinced when it's that close, Stockleigh Park can add the lines to back up either decision.

The VAR (or assistant VAR) marks the points which he thinks is closest to goal on the players involved, the software does the rest. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, sir roger said:

I think it was Dave a month or two back who mentioned that there seems to be a set policy by PGMOL to go with the onfield decisions regarding penalties,  and not get VAR involved, and I haven't noticed any exceptions to the rule since he said it.

I'm pretty sure there was one at the weekend, because I remember the ref being asked to go to the screen. 

[Bob]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

It's an advantage because Salah was in a great position. He didn't make the most of it, because his pass wasn't early enough. It's no different to a shat that's wide. I don't recall their one, so I can't comment on it. But that might not have been an advantage because the referee was clearly not giving lots of decisions and waiting till someone in his ear piece told him what to do. 

I won't keep at it cause your opinion is fair, but i disagree with it. 

 

I agree he had a potential advantage. However that advantage didn't materialise and it failed to materialised instantly. 

 

Refs do it all the time, play an initial advantage and then say "nah, didn't materialise, I'll call it back". They let it play out a few seconds to see.

 

It's different to getting a shot off, cause its clear if you could get a shot off that's your advantage played.

 

Three stills...

1. The foul, 70:24

2. The indication to play on, 70:26, with Salah 25 yards out and a host of defenders around him; and

3. The end of our advantage, 70:27.

 

We should've been given a free kick.

 

[Barrington Womble]

6 minutes ago, Bob said:

I won't keep at it cause your opinion is fair, but i disagree with it. 

 

I agree he had a potential advantage. However that advantage didn't materialise and it failed to materialised instantly. 

 

Refs do it all the time, play an initial advantage and then say "nah, didn't materialise, I'll call it back". They let it play out a few seconds to see.

 

It's different to getting a shot off, cause its clear if you could get a shot off that's your advantage played.

 

Three stills...

1. The foul, 70:24

2. The indication to play on, 70:26, with Salah 25 yards out and a host of defenders around him; and

3. The end of our advantage, 70:27.

 

We should've been given a free kick.

 

Fair enough, an agree to disagree. I see the point you're making, but my feeling probably come from in the ground my mate next to me was screaming for that too. I didn't for 1 second expect that to happen, I just felt we got our advantage, we just didn't make the most of it. 

[Bob]

Just now, Barrington Womble said:

Fair enough, an agree to disagree. I see the point you're making, but my feeling probably come from in the ground my mate next to me was screaming for that too. I didn't for 1 second expect that to happen, I just felt we got our advantage, we just didn't make the most of it. 

I was in the ground screaming for it myself. As I was screaming for everything else the bent Manc twat didn't give us!

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, Bob said:

I was in the ground screaming for it myself. As I was screaming for everything else the bent Manc twat didn't give us!

 

I thought the ref was terrible but for once I didn't feel he was bent, just completely and utterly incompetent. 

 

And he's not a manc is he? One of the few that's not. Unless of course you're talking about fuck face on VAR?