Michael Edwards Return Confirmed

[Daisy]

Nerd cunts

[TD_LFC]

On 10/05/2024 at 23:33, Lee909 said:

 

I wonder if they go for one of the clubs 777 own as they be going on the cheap soon

Vasco da Gama in Brazil

 

Red Star F.C. in France, might be difficult local MP is trying to get laws in place against 3rd party ownership

 

Standard Liège in Belgium, i remember a few years back it was supposed to be easy to get visa there for footballers.

 

Would be an odd choice if true unless they're looking at more than one club.

[Lee909]

5 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Would be an odd choice if true unless they're looking at more than one club.

 

 

Find landing spot would be my guess

They'll look to snap up South American talent and move them to Vasco them probably on to a European club first

[TD_LFC]

You'd want that European gateway club nailed down first though you'd assume or you're in the same position as before you bought any club with no staging post between South America and the 'top' leagues in Europe for them to develop.

 

It's easier to buy South American players outside of the really big clubs for under ten mill, and then develop them in Portugal/France/Belgium than it is developing them in Brazil and trying to do something with them in Europe especially if your 'big ticket' club features in the equation for any of those players.

 

Not that the likes of Marques/Edwards and Ward wouldn't have already considered that of course.

 

[Twentyman]

The four times champions of Brazil and former Copa Libertadores winner are to be nothing more than a vassal in FSG's portfolio. 

 

How fucking depressing. No wonder Jurgen is leaving it all behind, football has gone off the deep end entirely.

[TheHowieLama]

Vassal da Gama

[Lee909]

27 minutes ago, Em City said:

The four times champions of Brazil and former Copa Libertadores winner are to be nothing more than a vassal in FSG's portfolio. 

 

How fucking depressing. No wonder Jurgen is leaving it all behind, football has gone off the deep end entirely.

 

Just been talking with a Vasco fan saying the same thing. I have always said i understand why we are doing it, but i don't like it and never will. I read some people saying we should buy St Ettiene as a feeder club because they might be up for sale and said the same. No historic club like that should be bought up to be a stepping stone for us. The Vasco fan sounded hopeful it could happen if they would invest in the club as 777 has truely fucked them and they see no way out as it stands. I think FSG would sort them out, but they would lose out on the big transfer fees as they'd be moved to another team or on to ourselves cheaply

[TD_LFC]

7 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

Just been talking with a Vasco fan saying the same thing. I have always said i understand why we are doing it, but i don't like it and never will. I read some people saying we should buy St Ettiene as a feeder club because they might be up for sale and said the same. No historic club like that should be bought up to be a stepping stone for us. The Vasco fan sounded hopeful it could happen if they would invest in the club as 777 has truely fucked them and they see no way out as it stands. I think FSG would sort them out, but they would lose out on the big transfer fees as they'd be moved to another team or on to ourselves cheaply

 

Depends how it's handled and not all MCO's are created equally, if both clubs are treated separately and it's a sharing of expertise and resources with the odd transfer between clubs or placing of the odd player where it's beneficial to both teams then fine.

 

Where it becomes problematic is when you have the likes of the City Group who are using teams to buy players for the benefit of other teams, Savio being signed by Troyes, never playing for them, and instead starring for Girona while Troyes are almost relegated from the second division for example).

 

There needs to be an organic filtering of players closer to the RB system so they aren't bought for Liverpool and foisted upon the clubs 'below' them, they're bought for the clubs they're intended to play for and progress naturally.

[Anubis]

Is this a cunning move by us to help 777 take over Everton, knowing they’ll be a disaster?

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

58 minutes ago, Em City said:

The four times champions of Brazil and former Copa Libertadores winner are to be nothing more than a vassal in FSG's portfolio. 

 

How fucking depressing. No wonder Jurgen is leaving it all behind, football has gone off the deep end entirely.

It’s sad, depressing and not least a fucking disgrace.

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

15 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Is this a cunning move by us to help 777 take over Everton, knowing they’ll be a disaster?

You'd be fucking mad to buy anything off 777, who knows what shit they could hide from you in a sale process. 

[Aventus]

12 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

You'd want that European gateway club nailed down first though you'd assume or you're in the same position as before you bought any club with no staging post between South America and the 'top' leagues in Europe for them to develop.

 

It's easier to buy South American players outside of the really big clubs for under ten mill, and then develop them in Portugal/France/Belgium than it is developing them in Brazil and trying to do something with them in Europe especially if your 'big ticket' club features in the equation for any of those players.

 

Not that the likes of Marques/Edwards and Ward wouldn't have already considered that of course.

 

Fucking brexit

[Aventus]

12 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Would be an odd choice if true unless they're looking at more than one club.

We're exploring our options 

[TD_LFC]

Bordeaux?

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

I'd of well thought a Portuguese club would of been the smarter idea. Why the fuck buy another club in a league where another oil royal gang of twats have done their best to kill the sport. Plus the links with the Portuguese and south American leagues and bringing back the likes of ward.

[TD_LFC]

47 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I'd of well thought a Portuguese club would of been the smarter idea. Why the fuck buy another club in a league where another oil royal gang of twats have done their best to kill the sport. Plus the links with the Portuguese and south American leagues and bringing back the likes of ward.

 

Same but the opportunity has to be there I guess.

 

The club has to exist in it's own right so I suppose there are considerations outside of just South American players link to Portugal including stadium, fan base, reputation, it's ability to exist in it's own right.

 

There's 5 stadiums in Portugal, outside of the big 3, where the stadium is bigger than 30k according to wiki and of that only one is above 33k (national Stadium). Bordeaux immediately come in at around 47k but no idea what the stadium is like.

 

Posted the below earlier in the thread where it looks at all the factors that are considered so maybe a combination of factors push Bordeaux up the list.

 

On 11/04/2024 at 14:36, TD_LFC said:

Nice little summary of the considerations for a second club, while Toulouse score higher a club like Gil Vicente (or equivalent Portuguese club offers more benefits for recruitment.

 

 

 

There was talk of 'rescuing Vasco de Gama from 777 as well so maybe more long term they're looking at opportunistic 'rescue' jobs buying distressed clubs on the cheap and rebuilding them, It worked the first time.

[El Dangerous]

We should buy buy Everton and push their new stadium in to the Irish Sea.

[VladimirIlyich]

59 minutes ago, El Dangerous said:

We should buy buy Everton and push their new stadium in to the Irish Sea.

It will do that by itself in time.

[Aventus]

Let slip the Dogues of war! 

[Lee909]

6 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I'd of well thought a Portuguese club would of been the smarter idea. Why the fuck buy another club in a league where another oil royal gang of twats have done their best to kill the sport. Plus the links with the Portuguese and south American leagues and bringing back the likes of ward.

 

They aren't in the same league as PSG. Bordeaux are in ligue 2 and if the deal isn't done in 2 weeks they'll drop further as they are financially fucked and will be relegated on finance grounds to the regional league. They'll be getting them for pennies. They are a massive historical club and have a good stadium that was built about 10 years ago. It was used at the euros in 2016, Rugby world cup and will be used for the upcoming Olympics. It makes sense for them. It's been reported they are still looking for a club in South America. 

 

Albert Riera is the manager there

[Bobby Hundreds]

9 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

They aren't in the same league as PSG. Bordeaux are in ligue 2 and if the deal isn't done in 2 weeks they'll drop further as they are financially fucked and will be relegated on finance grounds to the regional league. They'll be getting them for pennies. They are a massive historical club and have a good stadium that was built about 10 years ago. It was used at the euros in 2016, Rugby world cup and will be used for the upcoming Olympics. It makes sense for them. It's been reported they are still looking for a club in South America. 

 

Albert Riera is the manager there

No. You see I look at this multi club model as a vehicle to feed Liverpool not make pennies on the pound for FSG. I thought since the vote passed clubs can loan and sell players to other clubs they own FSG though we need to evolve our model so Liverpool doesn't get left behind in the shenanigans of those who dont give two fucks about the sport. I'd completely ban the multi club model.

[Barrington Womble]

12 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

 

They aren't in the same league as PSG. Bordeaux are in ligue 2 and if the deal isn't done in 2 weeks they'll drop further as they are financially fucked and will be relegated on finance grounds to the regional league. They'll be getting them for pennies. They are a massive historical club and have a good stadium that was built about 10 years ago. It was used at the euros in 2016, Rugby world cup and will be used for the upcoming Olympics. It makes sense for them. It's been reported they are still looking for a club in South America. 

 

Albert Riera is the manager there

I think the word we're looking for is opportunistic. One of Frances biggest sides.  Clear the debt and you can probably buy for next to free and turn them around and back up to league one for the wage saving per year of a thiago and matip. Then they'll probably back to their 10x value like they've got out of us. And in the meantime time, gives them some opportunity to learn the multiclub model. 

[Creator Supreme]

4 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I'd completely ban the multi club model.

This.

 

Football is shit.

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, Creator Supreme said:

This.

 

Football is shit.

That ship has sailed. 

[Lee909]

14 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

. I'd completely ban the multi club model.

 

 

So would I, I don't like it. From what ive read we don't intend you use them as a feeder club. Buy we will see I guess. My guess is they will be loaned young players we want to get game time for and players we can't get permits for will be parked there until we can