Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[El Rojo]

1 hour ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

If Edwards and his Data is as good as its made out to be, we shouldn't really be spending a huge wedge on any individual. We should be snapping them son's a bitches up ahead of their potential.

Data doesn’t put the ball in the net.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would probably score more than Nunez, though. 

[El Dangerous]

41 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Data doesn’t put the ball in the net.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would probably score more than Nunez, though. 

[Jose Jones]

1 hour ago, El Dangerous said:

If @Section_31 doesn’t rep this, I don’t know what’s becoming of this forum.

[Megadrive Man]

3 hours ago, Scott_M said:

 

I'd hope we're aiming higher than those centre backs though.

 

Quansah may have changed our thinking on that.

 

It feels more like we only need a backup player to come in to rival VVD, Konate and Quansah. 

 

I keep forgetting about Sepp van den Berg too. He's had a really good season in Germany so could be another option.

[dave u]

Not a chance in hell we'd spend that kind of money on Kudus. We won't go for someone like Olise either. The nerds will have a list as long as your arm of players who compare to them data wise but will cost a third of the price. 

 

I expect that we'll be shopping in that £30-40m bracket that has served us so well. So someone like that Summerville, plus maybe one of the centre backs we've been linked with. The Frankfurt lad maybe?

 

Spending massive on someone like Kudus is Man United behaviour.

[Scott_M]

1 hour ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

Quansah may have changed our thinking on that.

 

It feels more like we only need a backup player to come in to rival VVD, Konate and Quansah. 

 

I keep forgetting about Sepp van den Berg too. He's had a really good season in Germany so could be another option.

Maybe. 
 

Again we seem linked with predominantly left sided players. You’d assume we’re starting to look at VVD’s long term replacement. 

Assuming he resigns, that is. 

[dave u]

Be interesting to see what happens with Branthwaite. No way are Everton getting £80m for him, especially when everyone knows how desperate they are to get money in by the end of June to pass PSR.

 

United are the only ones stupid enough to pay them anywhere near what they're asking. If nothing has been done by late June I'd be chucking in a £45m bid as they aren't in a position to say no.

[Lee909]

Spending 30ml on Summerville type is a massive risk. If we start penny pinching with players like him or that striker at Feyenoord we will be lucky if one of the two makes it. Kudus is young and scoring at the highest levels. But that clause isn't till 2025 anyway from the reports so it won't matter. 

[Anubis]

Can’t see Branthwaite wanting to come here and I’m not sure he’d fit in with the attacking athletic of a team that pushes up so high. Plus, they’d be back to sending bullets in the post.

[El Dangerous]

Release clauses like that are fucking pointless. No one is paying it anyway. Ultimately every player is worth whatever the selling club is willing to accept and whatever the buying club is willing to offer. A release clause only makes things easier if the fee is reasonable which £85m isn’t. 
 

Olise is apparently available for £60m although that could be paper talk. I think prices for Olise, Eze, Guehi and maybe Wharton will depend on whichever one goes first and sets the market. I think Summerville for £30m-£40m is a good punt. Especially with Mo around, although doesn’t Summerville come in off the left? He’s also probably hitting that magic number of games we like them to hit before going in. 
 

Defensive midfield is interesting. I’m convinced Slot will want to bring Weiffer with him but he’s not the classy destroyer we all want and we already have Mac Allister who can do that technical dm role pretty much better than most. Could be another project piece there.

[Code]

  I had that Guehi in a fantasy team last season so I paid a bit of attention to him. (Sound stupid I know)

 

He’s overrated, Quansah is a better player already, but Guehi usually play to the right though and I can’t see us spending much money on a cover for Van Dijk. 

[Scott_M]

Summerville won Championship Player Of The Season. He scored 19 goals, got 9 assists and was available for 43/46 games. 
 

He’s been in England 2 seasons, you assume he can speak good English and seems to have a handle on the physical side of the game. 
 

I dunno, it feels underwhelming, looking at the list of top scorers in the Championship over the last few seasons - Solanke, Toney, Bowen, Mitrovic, Watkins, Viktor Gyokeres - who have all gone on to prove themselves elsewhere. 

 

Unfortunately , there are a few duds like NIL Maupay, Ollie McBurnie & Teemu Pukki as well. 

[Scott_M]

22 minutes ago, El Dangerous said:

 

Defensive midfield is interesting. I’m convinced Slot will want to bring Weiffer with him but he’s not the classy destroyer we all want and we already have Mac Allister who can do that technical dm role pretty much better than most. Could be another project piece there.

 

I put yesteday about the failed attempts to buy Caicedo and Lavia and how we must still feel we can improve in that department. 
 

I completely forgot we also tried to buy Tchouameni the summer before. 
 

So we’ve failed to get proper, long term, holding midfielders 2 years in a row.

 

Endo has obviously done well this season, likely better than we all expected. Shirley, the club can’t view him as a long term solution?

[El Dangerous]

I won’t be surprised if we use Endo as the reason not to sign someone there with us seeing Bajcetic and even Morton as the long term successors but at the same time that’s the reason we have a youth system and scout the darkest depths of Europe to sign young players.

 

I think wing and centre back are where we will definitely be making moves then the rest will depend on ins and outs and pre season.

 

[Lee909]

 

 

Yes please

 

 

 

[El Dangerous]

Well if PSG want Diaz then it would be a handy card to play. 

[3 Stacks]

Simons is a similar target to Kubo. Smaller forward players who don't have a particular role. I don't know what would be the idea behind it.

[Ne Moe Imya]

9 hours ago, dave u said:

Not a chance in hell we'd spend that kind of money on Kudus. We won't go for someone like Olise either. The nerds will have a list as long as your arm of players who compare to them data wise but will cost a third of the price. 

 

I expect that we'll be shopping in that £30-40m bracket that has served us so well. So someone like that Summerville, plus maybe one of the centre backs we've been linked with. The Frankfurt lad maybe?

 

Spending massive on someone like Kudus is Man United behaviour.

 

Agree with all of this though I might suggest that what was the 30-40m bracket is now probably more like 45-55m with inflation.

Enough to get you someone who's good, who Edwards and the recruitment team think might be really good, but not someone who we're having to outbid Chelsea and Real Madrid for, basically.

[an tha]

10 hours ago, Scott_M said:

Summerville won Championship Player Of The Season. He scored 19 goals, got 9 assists and was available for 43/46 games. 
 

 

We'd soon put a stop to that sort of silliness....

[sir roger]

Even if he was fit all season our medical team would only let him play 15 games

[Megadrive Man]

14 hours ago, dave u said:

Not a chance in hell we'd spend that kind of money on Kudus. We won't go for someone like Olise either. The nerds will have a list as long as your arm of players who compare to them data wise but will cost a third of the price. 

 

I expect that we'll be shopping in that £30-40m bracket that has served us so well. So someone like that Summerville, plus maybe one of the centre backs we've been linked with. The Frankfurt lad maybe?

 

Spending massive on someone like Kudus is Man United behaviour.

 

The concern is that when you buy these sort of players, they might not be ready for the top level.

Is Summerville even that much of an upgrade on Fabio Carvalho for instance? 

 

At least Kudus and Olise have proven that they can handle the Premier League.

 

Most of our best signings in the Klopp era had Premier League experience, or in the case of Luis Diaz had played really well against Man City in the Champions league.

 

We currently have the following players that I would describe as young 'project' players  Bradley,Quansah,Bajcetic Elliott,Gravenberch. Then we have Morton, Van den Berg and Carvalho coming back after good loan spells.

 

Add the kids that featured earlier in the year too and we have a huge number of players with potential.

 

We could easily do something like Robinson (Fulham LB) for £45 million Adarabioyo (Fulham CB) £Bosman free, Olise (Palace RW) £60 million release clause. We also need a CDM but I'm struggling to think of one. 

[Scott_M]

13 hours ago, El Dangerous said:

I won’t be surprised if we use Endo as the reason not to sign someone there with us seeing Bajcetic and even Morton as the long term successors but at the same time that’s the reason we have a youth system and scout the darkest depths of Europe to sign young players.

 

When we went for Tchouaméni, Bajectic was an unknown quantity, he hadn’t made any first team appearances & was often injured for the Academy sides.

 

Obviously he showed quite a lot of promise last season. I think we were expecting to use him more this season before injury took its toll, overall we were happy to pair him with Caicedo or Lavia, slightly more experienced players, in the first team set up.

 

As good Endo has been (and he genuinely has done well), we don’t feel any closer to plugging this gap than we did after Paris. Endo is plaster on a wound that needs stitches - he’s doing a job, it’s not sustainable. 

[TD_LFC]

50 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

The concern is that when you buy these sort of players, they might not be ready for the top level.

Is Summerville even that much of an upgrade on Fabio Carvalho for instance? 

 

At least Kudus and Olise have proven that they can handle the Premier League.

 

Depends what position you're buying for and what the  outgoings are, If Salah is staying and you're looking for a player on the cusp of a breakout then a player with a profile like Summerville is perfectly fine, if you're selling Salah (steady Code it's just an example) and replacing him with someone like that then less so and someone more developed and 'ready' would be needed.

 

The suitability of a signing is as much about where they fit in the team, the development pathway and what's around them as it is about them as individuals).

 

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We could easily do something like Robinson (Fulham LB) for £45 million Adarabioyo (Fulham CB) £Bosman free, Olise (Palace RW) £60 million release clause. We also need a CDM but I'm struggling to think of one. 

 

We could but it would be fucking shit.

[El Dangerous]

Don’t get the Robinson love. He’s a decent solid player. He’s a downgrade on Robbo. At least with someone like Ait Nouri you can see a path where they become good enough to usurp Robbo down the line.

[YorkshireRed]

I appreciate my pathological loathing of Leeds might cloud my judgement, but I don’t think Somerville is good enough. 
 

He’s had a good season against mediocre defenders, but looks a bit of a one trick pony. Granted it’s a decent trick, one that involves him cutting inside and curling a shot into the far corner. 
 

Like the rest of the shower he plays for, he’s gone off the boil a bit of late as well. Hopefully that lasts into the playoffs and his club falls apart…..again. 
 

He could, of course, develop, but he’s only really had one good season and has had attitude problems at certain points in his career.

 

The Leeds clowns in the stands also sing the Jota song for him which annoys me far more than it should.

 

We could, and should, do better.

 

Different position, and one we’re well stocked in, but if we were to sign anyone from Leeds it should be Archie Gray or his younger brother Harry (also meant to be the business).