Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

[Scott_M]

24 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Yes, and we've lost Matip and Thiago.

Thiago offered nothing last season. Literally, nothing. 
 

Quansah stepped up and replaced Matip. VDB is back from loan, he might be good enough, he might not be, he’s done well on loan, he deserves an opportunity to stake his case. What he does with that opportunity is down to him.

 

Nobody is disagreeing we need signings. While VDB is an unknown quantity and seemingly wants to leave, we’ll need a centre back. We clearly need a #6, we’ve all said it. I’d like another attacker but I don’t think it’s essential. 

[Scott_M]

This “Slot has watched training videos” is a red herring. He’s probably done that to see what sessions we’ve done previously. No doubt he’ll have seen Clarke, McConnell, Danns etc in the videos, do we really expect a coach to fully base an opinion on a training video? If he did base an opinion on a training videos, we’d be moaning (and rightly so). 
 

I genuinely don’t see the issue with the narrative of he wants to assess his options first. 
 

Do we spend a fortune on a centre back or do we think VDB is up to it?

 

Do we spend a fortune on a #6 or do we think Morton / Bajectic / McConnell are up

to it?

 

Do we spend a fortune on an attacker or do we think Danns / Doak / Gordon / Carvalho are up to it?

 

I would assume Slot has a better understanding of the more senior players. I think in the main, we’re all reasonably happy with the senior players, there is nobody we’re desperate to sell, we think certain areas need an upgrade, we’re giving the academy players a chance, because if we don’t, what’s the point in the academy?

[SasaS]

You are all forgetting we have already spent a large portion of our transfer budget on Slot.

[Anubis]

14 minutes ago, SasaS said:

You are all forgetting we have already spent a large portion of our transfer budget on Slot.

 

And the remainder on Tony's Chocolonely bars so he feels at home.

[Scott_M]

18 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

And the remainder on Tony's Chocolonely bars so he feels at home.

You say that like it’s a bad thing, they are delicious. 

[Dave D]

9 hours ago, an tha said:

It reflects the scale of the change we are experiencing - 8 years of such a unique and such a strong identity. Something that frankly now rarely happens. Klopp was easily the longest serving manager in the league at the time of him leaving.

 

Now we have to start afresh - when it was not expected at all. It is a huge and unplanned change.

 

As for fees what is your point?. If and when we make a move we'll negotiate based on what we believe is the right player and price - personally i am quite content to wait until those who are paid to do the job decide they want to and I trust them to do their job.

 

We can choose to stamp our feet and demand new signings now or we can patiently wait and see what the club do and consider the  circumstances they are in and trust that there is a process in place to do what they believe is right. I can't for a moment believe where things are today it is possible to have bought any new players in yet this summer.

My concern is we as fans are feeling the huge loss of Klopp, even from afar. Some of the senior players had a very strong bond with him, the change for them will be jarring on a daily basis and will no doubt lead to some of them reflecting on moving on 

[The wanderer]

1 hour ago, Anubis said:

No, some kind of reference

to you having deliberately avoided mentioning them - whatever you think of their signings - because they are more relevant than Newcastle but inconvenient to your narrative.

Jesus your spouting bollox I didn’t quote them because they’ve signed shite along with a few other clubs. Certainly didn’t deliberately avoid mentioning them. They will finish outside of the top 4 next season so for me no relevance.

[chrisbonnie]

We'll sign two first team players. Shut up moaning, you big bunch of Mary's! 

[Binomial]

8 minutes ago, chrisbonnie said:

We'll sign two first team players. Shut up moaning, you big bunch of Mary's! 

Staying optimistic and saying we'll still sign 3.

 

Ederson (£38m), Bakayoko (£37m) & Frimpong (£35m).

Just unsure on outgoings. 

 

[an tha]

1 hour ago, Dave D said:

My concern is we as fans are feeling the huge loss of Klopp, even from afar. Some of the senior players had a very strong bond with him, the change for them will be jarring on a daily basis and will no doubt lead to some of them reflecting on moving on 

Which for me is part of the Slot needs time to assess it all - definitely including not only can players adapt to what he wants but also do they want to buy in to him and his methods.

 

He's inheriting a pretty strong squad and it will need adding to and improving at it will see people leave - all of that has a lot of different strands to it and it is going to be a process that we should not be looking to rush IMHO.

[joe_fishfish]

13 hours ago, an tha said:

We scored 86 league goals last season.

 

Our average since Klopp took over is 80 per season.

 

We have only beaten that 86 twice under him and ironically neither was the title winning season - we scored 85 that season.

 

 

 

 

 

Klopp’s not the manager next season though. We scored so many under Klopp because of the style of play, we also conceded far too many good chances.

 

If our chance creation drops to the level of a normal side under Slot we are fucked.

[an tha]

10 hours ago, Horus said:

 

 

We've known change was coming for months and months. Slot was brought in early, and I still don't get why how long the previous man was in post, should have any bearing. Either we needed squad improvement under Klopp, or we didn't, and if we did, we still know the same flaws exist.

 

My point regarding fees is that we're cheap. Folks can support FSG or not, but it's difficult to argue against that point. So if things are going to cost more and more, the closer we get to September, then we'll either have to go further and further down our list of targets (another Endo - good player but not at the level required), or we'll have to completely scrap a transfer in a position we might have been targeting at the start of summer.

 

I'm not arsed about yoro, but he was a player we briefed about, said we were there if Madrid fell through, then backed out as soon as we couldn't hide behind Madrid. Basically I don't trust the people that run the club to be truthful about anything.

 

No one is stamping their feet, my brother. I only asked you a question about where you were coming from - we're all entitled to our opinions.

What Klopp would believe he wants and needs and what he sees as the things to fix will have been very different to what Slot will believe he wants and needs and sees as the things to fix.

 

Different tactics, different skillsets desired, types etc to carry those tactics and demands out. 

 

Different ideas require their own unique solutuons - for me what Klopp may have thought improvement looks like became irrelevant the moment he left - Now all that matters and for me what has to be done is what Slot thinks he wants and for my money there is just no way right now that picture is formed enough for him to be able to act.

 

It may become formed enough in coming weeks to make some immediate changes....we'll see.

 

The stamping feet comment was not aimed at you personally, pal - just a commentary on where it is happening here, other forums/twitter etc.

[Pidge]

If the Ederson story is true it was only really going to take off now he's back post-Copa.

 

Would be pleased if we brought either him or the Dutch (not Belgian) guy in. 

 

I think it's fair for Slot to want to see more when it comes to the right forward options. High profile player and a few youngsters and/or positional changes he might want to consider first as back up plans. 

 

Plus he probably wants to work with Trent to figure out his plan there too. Affects both midfield and right side decisions. 

 

Centre back would be good, but hard to find someone good enough that is happy to play backup to Virg. Van den Berg/Quansah and Gomez might be the answer for now. 

 

Think I said last summer that the main priority would be contracts and I still think that's the case. Virgil's physical abilities mean you give him multi year if they want that. Trent should be a no brainer unless he's taking the piss. Salah is maybe a 1/2 year job. 

[an tha]

James Pearce:

"What positions/players are they looking at?

Liverpool have been considering defensive options after the free-agent departure of long-serving Joel Matip. As well as a centre-back, there have been discussions over a holding midfielder and an attacking wide player. However, considering they have a youthful squad with potential, this was never going to be a busy summer.

Much depends on who steps up during pre-season and what gaps still need to be filled as Slot assesses his new squad."
 

[Megadrive Man]

2 minutes ago, an tha said:

James Pearce:

"What positions/players are they looking at?

Liverpool have been considering defensive options after the free-agent departure of long-serving Joel Matip. As well as a centre-back, there have been discussions over a holding midfielder and an attacking wide player. However, considering they have a youthful squad with potential, this was never going to be a busy summer.

Much depends on who steps up during pre-season and what gaps still need to be filled as Slot assesses his new squad."
 

 

Sepp Van de Berg, Tyler Morton and Fabio Carvalho can be like new signings. 

[an tha]

7 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

Sepp Van de Berg, Tyler Morton and Fabio Carvalho can be like new signings. 

Yeah for Norwich, Leeds and Fulham

[Trumo]

46 minutes ago, Binomial said:

Staying optimistic and saying we'll still sign 3.

 

Ederson (£38m), Bakayoko (£37m) & Frimpong (£35m).

Just unsure on outgoings. 

 

 

 

Can't see us signing both as both are right-sided wide players. The Ederson link is intriguing as he's still quite young, has first-team experience and look to be a player ready to break out into being one of the world's best in his position. With Fabinho I don't recall us being linked until it was announced that we'd agreed a deal. With Ederson, there have been rumours pretty much ever since we played Atalanta.

[No2]

12 minutes ago, an tha said:

James Pearce:

"What positions/players are they looking at?

Liverpool have been considering defensive options after the free-agent departure of long-serving Joel Matip. As well as a centre-back, there have been discussions over a holding midfielder and an attacking wide player. However, considering they have a youthful squad with potential, this was never going to be a busy summer.

Much depends on who steps up during pre-season and what gaps still need to be filled as Slot assesses his new squad."
 

Pearce doesn't know anything. He gets the text an hour before we hear about it, the rest of the time he scraping around trying to fill 5000 words out of thin air.

[an tha]

2 minutes ago, No2 said:

Pearce doesn't know anything. He gets the text an hour before we hear about it, the rest of the time he scraping around trying to fill 5000 words out of thin air.

I don't think any of the so called ITK's really do amymore frankly. They are all full of it but are rarely if ever proven right.

 

The noise from all of them is all part of the 'fun' though.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I wonder if Quansah's rise over the past season has played into our tentative approach to the window. He proved arguably better than any CB signing we were looking at.

 

Trouble is, that kind of leap from the academy is the exception and, as with Bradley and Bajcetic, you need to be careful not to overplay them.

 

Right now, I'd settle for one solid first team player who'd finish the season as a starter, preferably a 6 or wide right.

 

[Scott_M]

31 minutes ago, an tha said:

James Pearce:

"What positions/players are they looking at?

Liverpool have been considering defensive options after the free-agent departure of long-serving Joel Matip. As well as a centre-back, there have been discussions over a holding midfielder and an attacking wide player. However, considering they have a youthful squad with potential, this was never going to be a busy summer.

Much depends on who steps up during pre-season and what gaps still need to be filled as Slot assesses his new squad."
 

What does parts of that does anybody, if anybody / anything, do they disagree with?

[Scott_M]

49 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

if our chance creation drops to the level of a normal side under Slot we are fucked.

And nobody is going to know that until we start playing or he decides on if players can be more clinical. 
 

Luckily Feyenord scored, on average, 2.7 goals last season, more than when they won the league, which was 2.4.

 

Both of which are better than us last season, we scored 2.3. 

[The wanderer]

54 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

Klopp’s not the manager next season though. We scored so many under Klopp because of the style of play, we also conceded far too many good chances.

 

If our chance creation drops to the level of a normal side under Slot we are fucked.

But what if he stops us leaking goals?

[Lee909]

Most good young CB are not going to want to join either. You've either got to get soneone not quite ready or a aging vet. Everyone moaning we didn't get Yoro or that Italian lad seem to forget neither would want to back uo Virg for years. And these CB that can play LBs are generally shite as LB and never good enough on possession 

[No2]

9 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

What does parts of that does anybody, if anybody / anything, do they disagree with?

It's all fairly obvious. We have a gaping hole in defensive midfield, the rest of the squad is made up a strange mix of players, they nearly all fit into the same category, happy to keep them but also fairly relaxed about replacing them.