The 2024 General Election Thread

[Fowlers God]

16 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Ooof @dave u he’s calling you out there 

 

Fucking Snitch. 

 

and yeah I am @dave u. I feel like we need to remind the people of your policies that have failed since youve been in power; 

 

Mouse Mat Mondays; 

Fridge Magnet Fridays

 

Sure there was some T Shirt giveaway also. 

 

I handed in my Labour Membership card last year; Dont make me do the same. 

 

For the Many @dave u not the Few!!!!

[TheHowieLama]

ahem

 

Cheese Thread

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[Red Phoenix]

5 hours ago, sir roger said:

The BBC one on Frisay with Rayner, Mordaunt, Farage, Cooper, Denyer, Flynn and Ap Iorwerth might be a bit more interesting, but it is only 90 minutes long and they'll probably all just end up shouting over each other. I think they need to mute the other microphones when somebody is speaking.

 

Thanks I didn't know that was on, good to see a group of parties there instead. I'd prefer it if the Liberal Democrats and Greens do well too as I'd like to see more Labour votes going elsewhere to reduce the insane amount of power Starmer will have.

[Rushies tash]

21 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

You're basically saying that we have to make do with being governed by the current corrupt cartel, because democracy doesn't work.

I disagree.

 

I usually agree with most stuff you write mate, but not this. We don't have presidents in this country, thank fuck. The leader is elected from the party which is elected to government. That sounds fairly democratic. They have to (or at least they should) follow the mandate that is given to them. Hopefully, when Labour are elected, the behaviour and responsibilities of elected officials will be enshrined in law to curb governments (like the one in recent history) riding roughshod over unwritten conventions - such as sticking to manifesto promises. Besides, we also have an upper chamber that should act as a balance. Granted, that is something that should have better governance - to stop it being loaded with peers sympathetic to the government of the day.

 

Edit: I've also been a strong advocate of PR, again to water down the two party, flip flop nature of our democracy. A broader range of views and concensus would be better than the system we have now.

[Barrington Womble]

33 minutes ago, RJ Fan club said:

Yeah, see you’re point and did think maybe the post was implied that way.

 

if anything if she can hang on then as a current serving minister she’s a bigger fish in a much smaller pond and with a small opposition opens up all kinds of opportunities further up the chain, but party loyalty will be important when climbing the post election ladder, so hence why I reckon she happy to peddle that 

 

The reform thing will be interesting in her seat though, I’d imagine rural surrounds of Gatwick in Surrey and into Tandridge will have quite a bit of leakage from Tory to Reform, so it’s a tightrope she’s walking as a few percentage points further to the right might mean losing that seat too (assuming the latest MRPs are bob on) 

 

I don't think anyone who behaves in such an outlandish, pro sunak style through this election will survive what comes after on their front bench, as they'll want to clear the decks and wipe away his most visible fans. As an example, it's interesting how quiet Jeremy Cunt has been so far. For me post election they're being a hunt group and a Brexit group. The Brexit group will win in the end, but it may not actually have the numbers of the parliamentary party to begin with. 

 

32 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Which of them doesn't??

I pointed out earlier re: Farage - there is far more money to be "in and around" elections (on both sides of the large lake) than to actually win them, then have to do a job.

 

A well paid, secure career as a Farager is nothing to be take lightly.

 

Cuntinho comes across as someone who wants to have a front line career in politics. I'm sure she won't settle for the part she has played so far. That's not to say she's not in a position to do something else, she just comes across as someone who's fighting for he own airtime right now and unfortunately for her, sunak seems to be seizing it and using her as a human shield. 

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

We don't have presidents in this country, thank fuck. The leader is elected from the party which is elected to government. That sounds fairly democratic. 

 

First sentence - why?

 

Second part - why? To make a further US analogy - a person who is a viable candidate as a President is rarely (read never) the same as someone who becomes speaker of the House of Representatives - a leader chosen by the party in power.

Vastly different personality types.

[Rushies tash]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

 

First sentence - why?

 

Second part - why? To make a further US analogy - a person who is a viable candidate as a President is rarely (read never) the same as someone who becomes speaker of the House of Representatives - a leader chosen by the party in power.

Vastly different personality types.

 

Trump.

[TheHowieLama]

Just now, Rushies tash said:

 

Trump.

 

Johnson

[lifetime fan]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Other directly-elected executives work fine.  The trick is to not copy all the corrupt shit - including the Electoral College - that allowed Trump to win.

 

Prime Ministers have loads of power; it would be better to have them chosen by the people than by the 1922 Committee.

The simplest solution is enacting a law that requires a GE if the governing party changes its leader under any circumstances other than death. 

[Rushies tash]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Johnson

 

He was leader of the party elected to government.

[Rushies tash]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

The simplest solution is enacting a law that requires at GE if the governing party changes its leader under any circumstances other than death. 

 

Was about to post the same.

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

 

He was leader of the party elected to government.

 

I know - that's the point.

 

Why would you think - 

 

a. that is more democratic

b. that system presents the best candidates for the job of PM

[lifetime fan]

22 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I don't think anyone who behaves in such an outlandish, pro sunak style through this election will survive what comes after on their front bench, as they'll want to clear the decks and wipe away his most visible fans. As an example, it's interesting how quiet Jeremy Cunt has been so far. For me post election they're being a hunt group and a Brexit group. The Brexit group will win in the end, but it may not actually have the numbers of the parliamentary party to begin with. 

 

 

Cuntinho comes across as someone who wants to have a front line career in politics. I'm sure she won't settle for the part she has played so far. That's not to say she's not in a position to do something else, she just comes across as someone who's fighting for he own airtime right now and unfortunately for her, sunak seems to be seizing it and using her as a human shield. 

Understand your point about the two tribes but Hunt is gone mate. 

[Rushies tash]

17 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

I know - that's the point.

 

Why would you think - 

 

a. that is more democratic

b. that system presents the best candidates for the job of PM

 

Because they are  chosen from a pool of people who (should) know what they are doing in a political sense. They are, more often than not, some of the more experienced members of their party and should be able to navigate situations where diplomacy is called for. Johnson was an aberration, elected on the back of Brexit. Any chancer with enough financial backing can become president.

 

You seem to prefer the US system (fair enough) - I prefer ours. PR notwithstanding.

[Bjornebye]

47 minutes ago, Fowlers God said:

 

Fucking Snitch. 

 

and yeah I am @dave u. I feel like we need to remind the people of your policies that have failed since youve been in power; 

 

Mouse Mat Mondays; 

Fridge Magnet Fridays

 

Sure there was some T Shirt giveaway also. 

 

I handed in my Labour Membership card last year; Dont make me do the same. 

 

For the Many @dave u not the Few!!!!

Tags!!!!

[Barrington Womble]

14 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

Understand your point about the two tribes but Hunt is gone mate. 

Won't he hold his seat? Him or someone like him will still be trying to lead them after the election. As I say, i think the loony section will win in the end, but in the short term I'm not so sure. 

[RJ Fan club]

43 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I don't think anyone who behaves in such an outlandish, pro sunak style through this election will survive what comes after on their front bench, as they'll want to clear the decks and wipe away his most visible fans. As an example, it's interesting how quiet Jeremy Cunt has been so far. For me post election they're being a hunt group and a Brexit group. The Brexit group will win in the end, but it may not actually have the numbers of the parliamentary party to begin with. 

 

 

Cuntinho comes across as someone who wants to have a front line career in politics. I'm sure she won't settle for the part she has played so far. That's not to say she's not in a position to do something else, she just comes across as someone who's fighting for he own airtime right now and unfortunately for her, sunak seems to be seizing it and using her as a human shield. 

 I don’t know mate, think that assumes there’s some kind of principles going on amongst those two factions!  
 

I’m not so sure they won’t want or are not prepared to recruit from other camps. 

 

Someone prepared to save the biggest benefactors donation it probably seen as an asset, albiet what bone either faction are prepared to throw her might be limited 

[Vincent Vega]

Chef’s kiss. 
 

[Barrington Womble]

18 minutes ago, RJ Fan club said:

 I don’t know mate, think that assumes there’s some kind of principles going on amongst those two factions!  
 

I’m not so sure they won’t want or are not prepared to recruit from other camps. 

 

Someone prepared to save the biggest benefactors donation it probably seen as an asset, albiet what bone either faction are prepared to throw her might be limited 

You might be right there, they're all cunts. The fallout with these twats if labour win with the type of margin the polls suggest, will likely be more interesting than what labour can do with their Tory budget for the first 6 months or so. 

[Vector Sigma]

1 hour ago, Rushies tash said:

 

I usually agree with most stuff you write mate, but not this. We don't have presidents in this country, thank fuck. The leader is elected from the party which is elected to government. That sounds fairly democratic. They have to (or at least they should) follow the mandate that is given to them. Hopefully, when Labour are elected, the behaviour and responsibilities of elected officials will be enshrined in law to curb governments (like the one in recent history) riding roughshod over unwritten conventions - such as sticking to manifesto promises. Besides, we also have an upper chamber that should act as a balance. Granted, that is something that should have better governance - to stop it being loaded with peers sympathetic to the government of the day.

 

Edit: I've also been a strong advocate of PR, again to water down the two party, flip flop nature of our democracy. A broader range of views and concensus would be better than the system we have now.

This is the key word here. Pre Thatcher that is broadly what we had. 45 years later and we've gone full circle.

[Gnasher]

19 hours ago, Fugitive said:

You are twat with very sinister motives in most of what you post. Your views in the Ukraine thread, your Brexit views and now the way you are attacking anything Labour is laughable.

 

I’m starting to think your presence in the Israel thread is very performative and you don’t actually give a fuck about the people of Gaza but it’s great way for you use them to further you own personal agenda.

 

Cunt.

 

This is your Labour Party. 

 

 

https://x.com/StevePowers_/status/1798427449581085130?t=scOfN3ULifgAGRZkAEHkhg&s=19

 

 

Call me all the names going. Not for me.

[Creator Supreme]

26 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Chef’s kiss. 
 

That is actually quite funny, because reading about old Dougie's political stance he could have got on well with Mr Toad.

[TheHowieLama]

1 hour ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Because they are  chosen from a pool of people who (should) know what they are doing in a political sense. They are, more often than not, some of the more experienced members of their party and should be able to navigate situations where diplomacy is called for. Johnson was an aberration, elected on the back of Brexit. Any chancer with enough financial backing can become president.

 

You seem to prefer the US system (fair enough) - I prefer ours. PR notwithstanding.

I don't prefer either and both have their weaknesess'.

Yours is an absolute trust in the senior members of either party to do anything not self serving.

Seeing Johnson as an aberration but that any chancer with enough financial backing can become president is naive imo.

 

If you had a choice who the Labour PM was going to be would you pick Starmer?

 

 

 

[Rushies tash]

11 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I don't prefer either and both have their weaknesess'.

Yours is an absolute trust in the senior members of either party to do anything not self serving.

Seeing Johnson as an aberration but that any chancer with enough financial backing can become president is naive imo.

 

If you had a choice who the Labour PM was going to be would you pick Starmer?

 

 

 

 

No, but I believe his appointment was influenced more by how acceptable he'd be to the right wing power brokers in the press. A safe pair of hands if you will.

 

And I stand by the presidential remarks. If you're rich enough and have enough friends in the media, you can run for president. Which, on the one hand, I admit, is a great advert for democracy. But the downside is that any psychopath who has a fortune behind them can find themselves with the launch codes, which is a frightening thought. (Edit: I may have been heavily influenced by The Dead Zone here)

[lifetime fan]

6 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Seeing Johnson as an aberration but that any chancer with enough financial backing can become president is naive imo.

Believing the opposite is the living proof of how stupidity leads to cunts like Dubya and Trump! 
 

Like fuck would I ever want a presidential system here, it’s the perfect recipe for disaster.