The 2024 General Election Thread

[Anubis]

Arsonists handed back the matches was a good line.

[Bruce Spanner]

If they ended that after half hour Sunak comes out of it reasonably well, but the longer it went on the more people see through the snake oil, soundbites and tetchyness.

 

Starmer comes out on top, but should have really nailed the cunt.

[magicrat]

Fuck me that was depressing. 

[Harry's Lad]

Etchingham was a fucking disgrace.

[an tha]

The arsonists handed back the matches....

 

Great line.

 

Rachel Reeves used it the other week.

 

 

[Anubis]

Not sure I could sit in an audience that close to Sunak and keep my hands off his throat.

[an tha]

As much as he wasn't given the oppirtunity properly to do so i do feel Starmer missed chance to be very clear in shooting down the tax jibe - a jibe that will stick sadly.

 

Labour says Sunak's tax claims about party 'categorically untrue'

Henry Zeffman

Chief political correspondent

A very direct rebuttal to Rishi Sunak’s main tax attack on X (formerly Twitter) from Pat McFadden, Labour’s campaign director.

He says: “Rishi Sunak’s claims about Labour and tax are categorically untrue. Labour will not put up taxes on working people.”

That’s the Labour campaign position and Keir Starmer eventually said so earlier, but there might be frustrations in his team that he did not express it that directly in the heat of the debate.

Meanwhile Conservative operatives are wandering the spin room saying that Starmer failed nine times to rule out increasing taxes by £2,000.

[Jairzinho]

11 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Oh FFS, we don’t need houses for people to buy - we need socially affordable housing for people who will never be able to afford to buy,

 

John Major against Richie Rich.

 

Hosted by a malfunctioning robot serf.

[YorkshireRed]

Starmer 1 Sunak/Etchingham 1

 

I’ve seen Paul Tierney be less biased.

[Red_or_Dead]

I genuinely hope some cunt murders Farage.

 

 

[an tha]

Sunak wins yougov snap poll on who do you think performed best in tonight's debate...

 

51% - 49%

[cloggypop]

1 minute ago, Red_or_Dead said:

I genuinely hope some cunt murders Farage.

 

 

 

Nah. Dutch politics just got worse after that happened to Pim Fortuyn. 

[SasaS]

10 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Oh FFS we desperately need

 

SOCIALLY

AFFORDABLE

FUCKING 

HOUSING

 

that people can rent, not fucking home ownership you fucking pair of twats.

 

But there is more votes in appealing to home owners (2 out of 3 households) who want people to buy homes so their property would be more valuable.

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, an tha said:

Sunak wins yougov snap poll on who do you think performed best in tonight's debate...

 

51% - 49%

 

The general public are thick as fucking mince, the presenter basically handed over her gig to Sunak allowing him to not answer and then create his own questions for his opponent, and Starmer doesn't really have the wit or charm to deal with these debates. 

[Paulie Dangerously]

Sunak came across as desperately mud slinging but I don't think Starmer dealt with it particularly well. 

 

Anyone remember how much those Labour tax hikes are going to cost me again? 

[Bjornebye]

10 minutes ago, an tha said:

As much as he wasn't given the oppirtunity properly to do so i do feel Starmer missed chance to be very clear in shooting down the tax jibe - a jibe that will stick sadly.

 

Labour says Sunak's tax claims about party 'categorically untrue'

Henry Zeffman

Chief political correspondent

A very direct rebuttal to Rishi Sunak’s main tax attack on X (formerly Twitter) from Pat McFadden, Labour’s campaign director.

He says: “Rishi Sunak’s claims about Labour and tax are categorically untrue. Labour will not put up taxes on working people.”

That’s the Labour campaign position and Keir Starmer eventually said so earlier, but there might be frustrations in his team that he did not express it that directly in the heat of the debate.

Meanwhile Conservative operatives are wandering the spin room saying that Starmer failed nine times to rule out increasing taxes by £2,000.

They’ll keep up with the lies over and over just like they did last time. It will get more desperate the closer it gets and I’m sure Corbyn will be blasted all over right wing press. 

[Red_or_Dead]

8 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

 

Nah. Dutch politics just got worse after that happened to Pim Fortuyn. 

Hmmm, maybe a whole lot of them could be offed in one fell swoop.

[an tha]

10 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

The general public are thick as fucking mince, the presenter basically handed over her gig to Sunak allowing him to not answer and then create his own questions for his opponent, and Starmer doesn't really have the wit or charm to deal with these debates. 

She was awful - she failed to control Sunak but Starmer allowed her to control him and as a result Sunak was allowed to control the narrative.

 

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and if opposition are kicking you and ref is doing fuck all you have to kick back and i don't feel he did.

 

The issue was Sunak being a cunt of course and ensuring he got in all his prepared lines and shots - but Starmer was too nice and also the format was shite - they'd have been better off with elss subjects to allow for deeper answers - the 45 sec rule (which only seemed to apply to Starmer mind) was too short for a decent answer, but also with it only being applied one way just skewed everything.

 

Sunak was just allowed to shout over the presenter and keep going and have last word. Repeating same rhetoric and soundbites over and over....The 2k thing will stick if Lab don't deal with it as it will be a continued attack.

 

 

[Anubis]

Government minister can’t spell Keir correctly. Yes, this woman held a minister’s position.

 

[Anubis]

Tory after Tory are on Twitter pushing the £2k line. 

[Paulie Dangerously]

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

Tory after Tory are on Twitter pushing the £2k line. 

 

Clearly preplanned. 

[Barrington Womble]

22 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

If they ended that after half hour Sunak comes out of it reasonably well, but the longer it went on the more people see through the snake oil, soundbites and tetchyness.

 

Starmer comes out on top, but should have really nailed the cunt.

According to yougov sunak won. And I can see why. Etchingham was shit, just let sunak shout over starmer right through. Starmer was shit, because it took him about 20 mins to refute that £2k tax claim. He also allowed sunak to shout over him. Sunak did as well as he can, he shouted over starmer when he might have been under attack, he managed to cut himself off from 14 years, despite starmers efforts to say otherwise. I found that whole thing deeply depressing. Starmer needs a set of balls on him for the next one. He needs to be quicker thinking. He needs to put the host in their place if they let sunak cunt it up again..

[Bruce Spanner]

[Arniepie]

6 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Tory after Tory are on Twitter pushing the £2k line. 

They have social media sewn up

Every other poster is a Tory shrill

[Bruce Spanner]

All the other data much more promising for Starmer, should still have been better though.