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Gooners - They Have To Go


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10 hours ago, M_B said:

I don't think anyone is really denying it hit his hand, just whether or not his hand was in an unnatural position.

Irrelevant

 

It may be a stupid law but it is what it is - black and white.

 

If the ball strikes a goal scorer's arm while in the midst of a goal scoring move, regardless of arm position, intent, or any other qualifiers, a goal shall be chalked off.

 

 

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On 20/01/2025 at 15:04, dave u said:

 

Mate, this isn't that "is the dress blue/black or white/gold" photo where people see different things. It clearly hits hit arm!!

 

You can easily tell it's handball because of how they didn't a) go mad celebrating it and b) weren't protesting when it was chalked off. Even Arteta admitted it and, fuck me, he'd tell argue black was white if it got him off the hook for being shit.

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I almost posted in the amnesty thread that I found Arsenal objections to the Saliba red card against Bournemouth to be  relatable, in the same vein as Curtis's red card against Spurs. It wasn't that the decision was wrong, it was how PGMOL and their shills in the press were insisting that it met all the criteria for a clear and obvious error, and when confronted by comparable examples where a red card was not issued would dance back and forth between some minute difference in angle of movement/extension of leg, or the mantra that no-two-situations-are-the-same. You don't have to be a partisan to find the situation infuriating.

 

Then this whole handball thing blew up and I'm glad I said nothing. Fuck them, the absolute gosbshites.

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20 hours ago, dave u said:

 

That's only relevant for defenders. With attackers its just black and white. If it hits your hand/arm and you score, it's no goal.

 

If it accidentally hits your hand/arm and it's in a natural position, and you then create a goal, that goal can still stand, but that's a judgement call. For the goalscorer, there is no judgement call, it's a matter of fact. Did it hit the hand/arm or not? If it did, no goal.

 

Arsenal fans are mental. Even Robbie on AFTV (one of the more sane ones) was saying it was"inconclusive". I also saw some comparing it with the Newcastle goal the other week when it hit Joelinton's hand and then he set up a goal for Gordon. There is no comparison because Joelinton didn't score. If he had, it would have been disallowed.

 

I actually think this is one of the fucking about with the handball rules I like. The goalscorer cannot use his hand for any reason. Done. It's really clear and stops the refs picking which outcome they want. It's almost as clear as goal line technology. Well until it's arsenal. 

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10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I actually think this is one of the fucking about with the handball rules I like. The goalscorer cannot use his hand for any reason. Done. It's really clear and stops the refs picking which outcome they want. It's almost as clear as goal line technology. Well until it's arsenal. 

That's a fair comment. The nonsense part is that it can come off the arm of whoever provides the assist though,and still stand.

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1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

That's a fair comment. The nonsense part is that it can come off the arm of whoever provides the assist though,and still stand.

That's ok, because I don't know how far you go back. And then you get into all that why's it different for defenders than attackers. Drawing the line at the goalscorer is really clear I think and helpful. 

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I never used to mind Arsenal, the last few years though under legohead they can get to fuck, and I'm not saying that because they're now up challenging with us.

 

The entitlement from their fans and even some of the media in the summer before a ball is even kicked that had them as natural heirs to the title this season just because they finished second the previous two (without breaking 90 points mind) was unsubstantiated.

 

Their fans with the 'pray for' hashtags ahead of their upcoming games, their pendulum swings over their manager depending on their last game, starboy, Tets, that awful song, crying about injuries like they're the only team to to get them, Northern bias from PGMOL, set piece coach hogging the limelight when they score from a corner, nowhere to he seen when they concede, clear handball denying cryarsing.

 

I truly hope they self implode, we win the league, they meltdown, force legohead out, big players leave, normal service resumes.

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On 22/01/2025 at 11:22, deiseach said:

I almost posted in the amnesty thread that I found Arsenal objections to the Saliba red card against Bournemouth to be  relatable, in the same vein as Curtis's red card against Spurs. It wasn't that the decision was wrong, it was how PGMOL and their shills in the press were insisting that it met all the criteria for a clear and obvious error, and when confronted by comparable examples where a red card was not issued would dance back and forth between some minute difference in angle of movement/extension of leg, or the mantra that no-two-situations-are-the-same. You don't have to be a partisan to find the situation infuriating.

 

Then this whole handball thing blew up and I'm glad I said nothing. Fuck them, the absolute gosbshites.

There's no room for sentiment, relatability or  empathy when it comes to them. Ever. 

Purveyors of the beautiful game, "Hoof", that little cunt Arshavin " I am gooner now" Yeah you are you little inbred fuck. 

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On 23/01/2025 at 05:33, VladimirIlyich said:

Hate him? I'd say it was the fault on the officials more than anything.

 

I find that view amazing.  And it seems to be prevalent in everyday life now also. The person who did the bad thing is somehow at less fault then the people who didn't catch them????  Utter madness and in the broad sense a perfect example of the moral decay of society (I appreciate that's a big leap, but it's the internet). 

 

The one and only person at fault for that incident was Thierry Henry.  It was just a handball in the grand scheme of things, but if he doesn't do it, there is no issue. An expectancy, pre-VAR, that a ref should spot absolutely everything, when all it takes is for him to be unsighted by another player, or a poor viewing angle, as opposed to not putting the pressure back on the players not to cheat (he won a penalty being another obfuscation of responsibility) , is the problem.  Every cheat, even down to someone claiming a corner when it very obviously wasn't, should be highlighted and dealt with.  It's all been normalised, and it's to the massive detriment of the game.  And life! (*dramatic music)

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9 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

 

I find that view amazing.  And it seems to be prevalent in everyday life now also. The person who did the bad thing is somehow at less fault then the people who didn't catch them????  Utter madness and in the broad sense a perfect example of the moral decay of society (I appreciate that's a big leap, but it's the internet). 

 

The one and only person at fault for that incident was Thierry Henry.  It was just a handball in the grand scheme of things, but if he doesn't do it, there is no issue. An expectancy, pre-VAR, that a ref should spot absolutely everything, when all it takes is for him to be unsighted by another player, or a poor viewing angle, as opposed to not putting the pressure back on the players not to cheat (he won a penalty being another obfuscation of responsibility) , is the problem.  Every cheat, even down to someone claiming a corner when it very obviously wasn't, should be highlighted and dealt with.  It's all been normalised, and it's to the massive detriment of the game.  And life! (*dramatic music)

I entirely agree with every word of this.

 

I also cheat at every opportunity when playing games.

 

Not football, any game. I recently had to pen an MP style apology because I accidentally admitted the other morning to cheating in a family games night a few months ago.

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59 minutes ago, Bob said:

I entirely agree with every word of this.

 

I also cheat at every opportunity when playing games.

 

Not football, any game. I recently had to pen an MP style apology because I accidentally admitted the other morning to cheating in a family games night a few months ago.


You’re lower than a snakes belly, Bob. 

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