Dominik Szoboszlai - Welcome to Liverpool

[magicrat]

58 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I think we all know we need another midfielder and probably a left sided defender. Regardless of the players we have brought in everybody would of said during the season we need to do more than sign two midfielders. If this guy signs it's a genuine solid start to improve things, though personally I don't know shit about him I'll take others word for it that he's a straight in the side genuine improvement.

 

For me 2 more signings needed. Very happy with Mac Allister no idea about Dom.

This 

Job half done for now

[an tha]

Don't see anything wrong at all with the point of view that we look like we have added well to midfield if this lad joins the other lad we have signed as our 2nd addition to the black hole, but still wanting to see us add a more defensive minded player to top the rebuild off.

 

It was sickening to watch our midfield played through and run through with ease last season, to see it hardly ever come out on top in challenges, to see it failing to win 2nd balls regularly and to see teams simply outmuscle it, outfight it and be much, much more mobile than it.

 

Bringing in a really good strong, athletic and mobile No.6 type to help us with those problems, offer some protection in front of the back line, sense and snuff out danger and be a base for others to play from would IMHO be a big, big step towards fixing us and perfectly compliment our new addition/hopeful addition.

[Section_31]

We definitely need a new midfielder IMO, as all the ones we have left over from last season are either on the decline, permanently injured or still raw as fuck.

[TD_LFC]

1 hour ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Why wouldnt FSG just be the funder and the club pays them back like with every other improvement to infrastructure. 

 

Not quite that simple, it's the same reason PSG and Man City owners can't just give the club a billion pounds to spend on players and instead have to funnel it through sponsorships etc to create the room in the clubs accounts.

 

There are, or at least were, provisions for things like Voluntary Agreements that are agreed with UEFA for FFP purposes but those agreements have to be entered into in advance and have special conditions around them (I believe you have to apply for one a season in advance), there's also provisions for new owners of clubs to allow them to make direct investments early in their tenure.

 

Infrastructure has it's own set of rules and is more flexible, but as FFP/STCC was implemented to stop the kind of direct investment in transfers that you saw at clubs like Portsmouth it's more heavily regulated (but obviously not as heavily enforced).

[TheHowieLama]

Take your half full crap to the boring bastards transfer thread - this thread is for the mighty Szabo.

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, an tha said:

Don't see anything wrong at all with the point of view that we look like we have added well to midfield if this lad joins the other lad we have signed as our 2nd addition to the black hole, but still wanting to see us add a more defensive minded player to top the rebuild off.

 

It was sickening to watch our midfield played through and run through with ease last season, to see it hardly ever come out on top in challenges, to see it failing to win 2nd balls regularly and to see teams simply outmuscle it, outfight it and be much, much more mobile than it.

 

Bringing in a really good strong, athletic and mobile No.6 type to help us with those problems, offer some protection in front of the back line, sense and snuff out danger and be a base for others to play from would IMHO be a big, big step towards fixing us and perfectly compliment our new addition/hopeful addition.

 

It depends who is out there. Lavia to me is a big market opportunity that I would take, but I would do that because there are rarely a lot of good #6s out there. If he cant be done, we wont buy one for the sake of it. 

[TD_LFC]

2 minutes ago, an tha said:

It was sickening to watch our midfield played through and run through with ease last season, to see it hardly ever come out on top in challenges, to see it failing to win 2nd balls regularly and to see teams simply outmuscle it, outfight it and be much, much more mobile than it.

 

That was a mix of personnel and tactics though, while I agree we need to add to the defensive side you should still see an uptick in performance based on the, theoretical at this point, improvement in ball retention and pressing ability of the new signings and the tactical switch/additional bedding in of that system over pre-season.

[TD_LFC]

8 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

 

It depends who is out there. Lavia to me is a big market opportunity that I would take, but I would do that because there are rarely a lot of good #6s out there. If he cant be done, we wont buy one for the sake of it. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they still went for Thuram and developed him into a 6/8 while using him as a more all rounder early on.

 

Given he now becomes the 3rd of three instead of the 2nd of three it takes the pressure off.

[3 Stacks]

2 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they still went for Thuram and developed him into a 6/8 while using him as a more all rounder early on.

Yeah, maybe. If you look at Lavia, the weakness is aerial duels. If you can make Thuram into a 6 eventually, you likely wont have that problem. I think Thuram would have to do a lot of learning, though. He is far from a 6 right now. 

[sh#t waffle]

1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Call me cynical, but I'm not sure why we keep buying players with a skillset of finding a through ball when the opposition play on the edge of their 6 yard box with 10 men and look to break.  

I'm starting to find this mildy amusing how people think we've solved any of our problems...

Yes, but and this cannot be repeated enough, you very clearly thought that Luis Suarez was a problem at one point - and a problem that could be solved by replacing him with Adam Morgan 

[TD_LFC]

8 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Yeah, maybe. If you look at Lavia, the weakness is aerial duels. If you can make Thuram into a 6 eventually, you likely wont have that problem. I think Thuram would have to do a lot of learning, though. He is far from a 6 right now. 

 

He's played 6 early on, it's only his versatility and skill set that has seen him play everywhere from left wing to an unconventional 8/10 for Nice.

 

This game against PSG is very 'sixy' in it's style, you're effectively just curbing him making mad runs in transition (although maybe you want a bit of that to buy time for the advanced 8's to get in higher positions).

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

THIS IS WHAT SUMMER IS ABOUT!

 

 

 

[an tha]

15 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

That was a mix of personnel and tactics though, while I agree we need to add to the defensive side you should still see an uptick in performance based on the, theoretical at this point, improvement in ball retention and pressing ability of the new signings and the tactical switch/additional bedding in of that system over pre-season.

I agree there should be an improvement in those things and that will help. The issue i have though is i can't see a single midfielder on our books who is up to the job of playing at the sort of level a side like us and with how we like to play need a 6 to play at. I just feel for the reasons i stated in my original post and to give us the attributes we have missed we need one.

[Dr Nowt]

9 minutes ago, sh#t waffle said:

Yes, but and this cannot be repeated enough, you very clearly thought that Luis Suarez was a problem at one point - and a problem that could be solved by replacing him with Adam Morgan 

More than a bit of this going on.

 

[Dr Nowt]

1 minute ago, Dr Nowt said:

More than a bit of this going on.

 

Or this. One of the two.

 

[Preston Red]

Looks quite tall.

 

He shall be known as "The Big Szo".

[TD_LFC]

Just now, an tha said:

I agree there should be an improvement in those things and that will help. The issue i have though is i can't see a single midfielder on our books who is up to the job of playing at the sort of level a side like us and with how we like to play need a 6 to play at. I just feel for the reasons i stated in my original post and to give us the attributes we have missed we need one.

 

For most of the season Fabinho was massively isolated because of the way we were playing, he was effectively facing down the oncoming counter attack alone when we lost the ball high up the pitch. His upturn in form coincided with that tactical change because we were more compact and executing the press much better.

 

I don't think he's as finished as most others seem too.

 

 

[Scott_M]

1 hour ago, Jose Jones said:

I don’t think we need another midfielder. We have signed two starters, so Curtis and Harvey are backing them up and we now have Fabinho, Hendo, Bajcetic and Thiago competing for one position.

See, I’d have said that, the forum Human Centipede could coiled round me and squeezing the life out of me at the moment! 

 

I put in the positivity thread about this…with sign Thuram, that’s all our non-home grown quota uses up, any defender would have to be classed as homegrown (unless we sell someone).

 

Lavia will originally be classed as an u21 but given his time at City but would be HG when he’s 22.

 

I think I’ve only seen us linked with Colwill (unlikely) or Kilman at Wolves (no idea  if good enough) who meet the HG quota.

 

Or Fabinho at emergency centre back and Thuram? 

[an tha]

20 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

 

It depends who is out there. Lavia to me is a big market opportunity that I would take, but I would do that because there are rarely a lot of good #6s out there. If he cant be done, we wont buy one for the sake of it. 

Fair.

[TD_LFC]

1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

See, I’d have said that, the forum Human Centipede could coiled round me and squeezing the life out of me at the moment! 

 

I put in the positivity thread about this…with sign Thuram, that’s all our non-home grown quota uses up, any defender would have to be classed as homegrown (unless we sell someone).

 

Lavia will originally be classed as an u21 but given his time at City but would be HG when he’s 22.

 

I think I’ve only seen us linked with Colwill (unlikely) or Kilman at Wolves (no idea  if good enough) who meet the HG quota.

 

Or Fabinho at emergency centre back and Thuram? 

 

We know we're losing Matip next season at the latest so there's nothing stopping you going out and buying a defender who qualifies as U21 this summer (and because of the quirk of the rule they can technically already be 21 because it counts it as in the year of rather than specific birth dates) knowing that next year they take Matip's spot.

[an tha]

11 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

For most of the season Fabinho was massively isolated because of the way we were playing, he was effectively facing down the oncoming counter attack alone when we lost the ball high up the pitch. His upturn in form coincided with that tactical change because we were more compact and executing the press much better.

 

I don't think he's as finished as most others seem too.

 

 

We'll have to disgaree on Fabinho.

 

I agree he was isolated and exposed....big problems, but for me his tackling is atrocious now, he is either too late too often (again i'll say being isolated, exposed and outnumbered does not help) or he is outmuscled and whilst he has never been quick he used to read things better - now he seems switched off too often and worse still looks a lot less mobile than he was.

 

My other issue with him is his passing.

 

In my view he his in sharp decline.

 

I'd love to be wrong and see him look like he did mind.

[Scott_M]

3 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

We know we're losing Matip next season at the latest so there's nothing stopping you going out and buying a defender who qualifies as U21 this summer (and because of the quirk of the rule they can technically already be 21 because it counts it as in the year of rather than specific birth dates) knowing that next year they take Matip's spot.

Get that. Does anybody we’ve been linked with meet that criteria though? 
 

See some Twitter derp linking us with David Hanko of Feyenord. 25 year old, left footed Slovakian. 

[TD_LFC]

1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

Get that. Does anybody we’ve been linked with meet that criteria though? 
 

See some Twitter derp linking us with David Hanko of Feyenord. 25 year old, left footed Slovakian. 

 

Leverkusen have one, Inacio at Sporting counts as well I think (and he has a release clause!!).

[Pidge]

Haha, "he plays through balls and therefore doesn't fix anything, how amusing". Stunning stuff. Just top level determination to making the dumbest takes in the most conceited manner. You love to see it.

[Scott_M]

8 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Leverkusen have one, Inacio at Sporting counts as well I think (and he has a release clause!!).

Not sure. Inaciao was born in August 2001. Not sure how it works. Gravenberch and Veiga, who would both be classed as u21, were born in 2002. I see the release clause is about £39m. We love a release clause. 

 

Assume you mean Hincapié? He was born in 2002, assume he’s count as u21.

 

My Dad likes Tapsoba at Leverkusen. I’ve seen somebody mention him but I’ve not put any stock in it.